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Dan Dennedy | 1 Nov 2006 09:18
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Re: A triplet of problems with kino-0.9.2 on an FC5 system.

On Tuesday 31 October 2006 04:57, Gene Heskett wrote:
> However, although I had it set to export it in svcd format so I have a
> *.cue file and a *.bin file, and then did the burn by hand using cdrdao,
> or with k3b, it fails to read in a generic dvd player.
>
> Using cdrdao, feeding it the *.cue file, the whole thing is burned to the
> cd, but won't play.
>
> Using k3b, drag & drop, it appears only the *.cue is actually being burnt.

maybe because the mp2 audio is not being encoded at 44.1Khz and the default in 
mp2enc is 48KHz. 
In Export/MPEG/Advanced Options/Audio Encoding, try adding "-r 44100" after 
the existing "mp2enc -v 0"
I just made some changes in my working copy to force it into 44.1KHz audio 
whenever you choose VCD or SVCD in the format menu.

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Gene Heskett | 1 Nov 2006 12:30
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Re: A triplet of problems with kino-0.9.2 on an FC5 system.

On Wednesday 01 November 2006 03:18, Dan Dennedy wrote:
>On Tuesday 31 October 2006 04:57, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> However, although I had it set to export it in svcd format so I have a
>> *.cue file and a *.bin file, and then did the burn by hand using
>> cdrdao, or with k3b, it fails to read in a generic dvd player.
>>
>> Using cdrdao, feeding it the *.cue file, the whole thing is burned to
>> the cd, but won't play.
>>
>> Using k3b, drag & drop, it appears only the *.cue is actually being
>> burnt.
>
>maybe because the mp2 audio is not being encoded at 44.1Khz and the
> default in mp2enc is 48KHz.

And this screws up the average dvd player?  I did have one 'coaster' disk 
that vlc could play but the audio was choppy.

>In Export/MPEG/Advanced Options/Audio Encoding, try adding "-r 44100"
> after the existing "mp2enc -v 0"

I already have it as -v 0 -V, but will add that too.  And I have already 
added a '-f 4' to the other two lines there.  And I'm still haveing 
trouble entering anything, taking 20 or more taps on the key before it is 
registered in these text entry windows.  No other app is having a keyboard 
problem of any kind.  It just took me about 5 minutes to type in 
"Niccis-Wedding2" in the file box at the top of that page so I could try 
another export.

Can this audio data rate be fixed at the import/capture stage?  OTOH, I
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Gene Heskett | 1 Nov 2006 16:05
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Re: A triplet of problems with kino-0.9.2 on an FC5 system.

On Wednesday 01 November 2006 06:30, Gene Heskett wrote:
>On Wednesday 01 November 2006 03:18, Dan Dennedy wrote:
>>On Tuesday 31 October 2006 04:57, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> However, although I had it set to export it in svcd format so I have a
>>> *.cue file and a *.bin file, and then did the burn by hand using
>>> cdrdao, or with k3b, it fails to read in a generic dvd player.
>>>
>>> Using cdrdao, feeding it the *.cue file, the whole thing is burned to
>>> the cd, but won't play.
>>>
>>> Using k3b, drag & drop, it appears only the *.cue is actually being
>>> burnt.
>>
>>maybe because the mp2 audio is not being encoded at 44.1Khz and the
>> default in mp2enc is 48KHz.
>
>And this screws up the average dvd player?  I did have one 'coaster' disk
>that vlc could play but the audio was choppy.
>
>>In Export/MPEG/Advanced Options/Audio Encoding, try adding "-r 44100"
>> after the existing "mp2enc -v 0"
>
>I already have it as -v 0 -V, but will add that too.  And I have already
>added a '-f 4' to the other two lines there.  And I'm still haveing
>trouble entering anything, taking 20 or more taps on the key before it is
>registered in these text entry windows.  No other app is having a
> keyboard problem of any kind.  It just took me about 5 minutes to type
> in "Niccis-Wedding2" in the file box at the top of that page so I could
> try another export.
>
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Paul Stear | 1 Nov 2006 17:14

Re: A triplet of problems with kino-0.9.2 on anFC5 system.

On Wednesday 01 November 2006 15:05, Gene Heskett wrote:
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> And it did work, copy #1 is now playing in my region-free Apex dvd player.
> Copy #2 will get put on a lightscribe capable disk, and an image from the
> wedding snapshotted & captioned in the gimp for use with the lacie.com 4L
> burner soft that burns the images on the opposite side of the disk.  Yeah,
> I'm getting all Fawncy in my old age...
Hi,
I don't mean to highjack this thread but I was wondering if you can write 
lightscribe disks on gentoo??

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Dan Dennedy | 1 Nov 2006 20:45
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Re: A triplet of problems with kino-0.9.2 on an FC5 system.

On Wednesday 01 November 2006 03:30, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >maybe because the mp2 audio is not being encoded at 44.1Khz and the
> > default in mp2enc is 48KHz.
>
> And this screws up the average dvd player?  I did have one 'coaster' disk
> that vlc could play but the audio was choppy.

I am not that knowledgeable on VCD and SVCD. (They have lost nearly all 
relevance to most people.) When I tried to create a cue/bin with K3B, I 
received an error due to audio not being 44.1.

> >In Export/MPEG/Advanced Options/Audio Encoding, try adding "-r 44100"
> > after the existing "mp2enc -v 0"
>
> I already have it as -v 0 -V, but will add that too.  And I have already

-V would have taken care of the audio problem.

> added a '-f 4' to the other two lines there.  And I'm still haveing

-f 4 is not necessary because that is what the format optionmenu inserts.

> trouble entering anything, taking 20 or more taps on the key before it is
> registered in these text entry windows.  No other app is having a keyboard
> problem of any kind.  It just took me about 5 minutes to type in
> "Niccis-Wedding2" in the file box at the top of that page so I could try
> another export.

No one else has reported this problem, and I can not reproduce it.
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Gene Heskett | 1 Nov 2006 21:42
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Re: A triplet of problems with kino-0.9.2 on anFC5 system.

On Wednesday 01 November 2006 11:14, Paul Stear wrote:
>On Wednesday 01 November 2006 15:05, Gene Heskett wrote:
><snip>
>
>> And it did work, copy #1 is now playing in my region-free Apex dvd
>> player. Copy #2 will get put on a lightscribe capable disk, and an
>> image from the wedding snapshotted & captioned in the gimp for use with
>> the lacie.com 4L burner soft that burns the images on the opposite side
>> of the disk.  Yeah, I'm getting all Fawncy in my old age...
>
>Hi,
>I don't mean to highjack this thread but I was wondering if you can write
>lightscribe disks on gentoo??

Dunno.  If gentoo allows you to install binaries from an rpm via alien or 
some such, I'd imagine you can.  Otherwise fire up mc, let it take the 
rpms apart by highlighting the rpm and hitting enter.  Then copy what you 
can see to where it goes.  The packaging system won't now about it, but I 
don't think this method will overwrite anything in any event so you should 
be home free in that dept..  The software that Lacie has released seems to 
be pretty much self-contained although the 4L-gui I think needs a recent X 
install.

See <http://www.lacie/com> and follow the links to software and get 
both .rpm packages for linux, and the 6 page instruction pdf and you 
should be set.

Let us know how it works please, as I've yet to actually "burn" an image 
although that will be done later today if I can find and compose 
everything I need for a wedding svcd cover.  One of the neighbors girls
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Dan Dennedy | 2 Nov 2006 07:43
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Re: MPEG-2 and H.264 export parameters in kino 0.9.3

On Wednesday 01 November 2006 14:23 jochen.borris <at> web.de wrote:
> 1. Under Export/Other/H.264 MP4 the highest quality option seems to be
> characterized by the resolution 640 x 480 pixels. Is there also an option
> with a resolution of 720 x 576 pixels (which is the PAL TV standard in
> Europe)?

The decision to offer 640x480 is to follow conventions for Internet delivery 
since that is the most common distribution mechanism these days. 640x480 is 
4:3 aspect ratio with square pixels to eliminate opportunity for a player to 
display at the incorrect aspect ratio.

Another user has asked for 768x576 and 384x288 to keep the full vertical 
resolution and half vertical resolution for PAL. Also, I realize the MP4 file 
format can convey the proper aspect information, and most players can display 
it properly. Therefore, it can be desirable to avoid image degradation 
through scaling while encoding. So, there is room for improvement here, but I 
also want to keep it simple. I am open to suggestions here.

In the meantime, you can customize the exports by modifying the respective 
script in $prefix/share/kino/scripts/exports/

> 2. Can I change the MPEG-2 export parameters (similar to e.g. QuEnc) 
> e.g. bitrate somewhere in a menue in kino 0.9.3?

You can supply any of the options available to mpeg2enc and mp2enc in the 
widgets displayed under Advanced Options. (Kino automatically generates some 
options automatically to handle things that it already knows about like video 
standard, aspect, audio frequency, etc.)

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Gene Heskett | 4 Nov 2006 20:06
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I think I need some advice.

Greetings Dan & company;

I gave those svcd's that played just fine in my apex 1500 dvd player with 
an aussie flashrom in it, to the parents of the bride yesterday, and she 
took them home & plugged them into the dvd players in the bottom of two of 
their tv's only to have those players reject them with an unsupported 
format message.

I still have the raw.dv files, something around 3.7GB total.  Would it do 
any good to export them in a format that would burn a *real* dvd?

If so, I'll waste a couple lightscribe compatible dvd blanks & do it again, 
but I'm feeling the need of a step by step on how to do it right this 
time.

Suggestions anyone?

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Mark Rages | 4 Nov 2006 20:54
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Re: I think I need some advice.

On 11/4/06, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett <at> verizon.net> wrote:
> Greetings Dan & company;
>
> I gave those svcd's that played just fine in my apex 1500 dvd player with
> an aussie flashrom in it, to the parents of the bride yesterday, and she
> took them home & plugged them into the dvd players in the bottom of two of
> their tv's only to have those players reject them with an unsupported
> format message.

SVCD is not universally supported by DVD players.

>
> I still have the raw.dv files, something around 3.7GB total.  Would it do
> any good to export them in a format that would burn a *real* dvd?

That is more likely to work.

> If so, I'll waste a couple lightscribe compatible dvd blanks & do it again,
> but I'm feeling the need of a step by step on how to do it right this
> time.

There are several dvdauthor tutorials on the Internet.  Or you could
try one of the dvdauthor frontends.

Regards,
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Gene Heskett | 5 Nov 2006 18:35
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Re: I think I need some advice.

On Saturday 04 November 2006 14:54, Mark Rages wrote:
>On 11/4/06, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett <at> verizon.net> wrote:
>> Greetings Dan & company;

I'm still in the dark here folks, dead in the water so to speak.

Based on what Mark wrote previously, I had kino export it as a type 8 file 
for dvd's.  This has an extension of .vob

Unforch, I cannot find any tutorials on the web showing howto make a dvd 
from a .vob, so I'm beginning to think the tutorials are out of time with 
both kino-0.9.2 and the fc5/kde-3.5.5/k3b.

Here is what I currently have in the directory I'm trying to keep it all 
in:

3 ea jpg pix snapped from the movie that I use as the lightscribe image
and:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     59671 Nov  1 10:36 ItsDone.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root       877 Oct 29 12:43 niccis-wedding (an xml file 
from kino according to its contents)
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 424841144 Nov  1 06:49 Niccis-Wedding2.mpeg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 969865216 Nov  4 20:13 Niccis-Wedding3.vob
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root       207 Nov  5 12:07 Niccis-wedding.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root       799 Nov  1 10:20 niccis-wedding.k3b
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 424841144 Oct 29 12:42 niccis-wedding.mpeg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 840000000 Oct 29 11:07 nicci-wedding001.dv
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 840000000 Oct 29 11:11 nicci-wedding002.dv
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 840000000 Oct 29 11:15 nicci-wedding003.dv
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 840000000 Oct 29 11:18 nicci-wedding004.dv
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