Gerrit de Jong | 1 Feb 2011 01:23
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Re: [CinCV] What needs doing, and how do we do it? (was: cinelerra fork)



2011/1/29 E Chalaron <e.chalaron <at> xtra.co.nz>


>
> Cinelerra must become(*) able to import aquisition formats du jour,
> and that includes AVCHD.
That is unfortunate, AVCHD should be a result not a source of editing.
When you consider that some cheap cams are spitting out 5 Mb/s in
1920x1080 AVCHD it makes you wonder if it is even worth watching it.
 
I would like the possibility of using 1980x1080 but indeed not AVCHD as it is now. Chalaron is right, it is shit on most camera's. And bad on the rest. I use video for motion analyzing, more specific the analyzing of technical skills of rowers. The most important thing is frame by frame analyzing the motion. Looking at single frames you don't want to see smeared pictures lacking detail by compression. So at the moment I still use a DV camera because it does not compress. All AVCHD camera's I have seen do compress. Looking at a single frame is awfull. Nevertheless Cinelerra should be able to work with it. Within some years we will see the technical specs of camera's have improved.

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Kurt Georg Hooss | 1 Feb 2011 04:11
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Re: [CinCV] hardware


Yes opensuse works well. I use it exclusively.
They have CinCV in their packman repo, however
take some time to install & configure all those codex & stuff. :-)

Georg

On Monday 31 January 2011 18:48:46 Edouard Chalaron wrote:
> Kurt (and all)
> 
> Should we mention Suse as an alternative to Ubuntu ?
> 2 screens are a must and don't hesitate to use a CRT as your compositor
>  display, they are often quite good for the black point or a good plasma TV
>  via HDMI, but you need to be in relatively dark~ish environment and the
>  all setting will probably be all but inexpensive. I also tried a SLI
>  system and could not see much difference in performance. However the
>  drivers may have improved since. If anything get yourself a Raid 0 or 5
>  for your data and a disk for your OS..  As for the filesystem on the RAID
>  I tend to use a non journalised XFS as my data are often not to stay long.
> 
> Don't use XFS on your OS disk though it may not boot.
> Moreover Suse has a very good disk management system.
> Cheers
> E
> 
> 
> Go for two screens with reasonable high resolution, e.g. 2 x 1920x1200.
> You will need the desktop space. Does not need to be expensive.
> I have good experience with NVIDIA graphics cards in "twinview" setting.
> 
> Georg
> 
> On Tuesday 25 January 2011 00:28:09 Gerrit de Jong wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > I want a low-budget desktop computer optimized for cinelerra. Say up to
> > 500 dollar. What should I buy? Do I need a fast graffic card or should I
> > better spend the money on a faster CPU? What CPU performs the best for
> > the money? If I need a graffic card which one gives the best value for
> > money? How much memory is optimal?
> > My expectation is I will often have to stabilize shaky footage, and
> > sometimes I want to overlay a shot onto another one. If I got it right
> >  these two things are done much faster by a graffic card, but some say to
> >  me that rendering relays heavily on the CPU, and a graffic card won't
> >  speed up that process. What is true?
> > My idea is to use an SSD for the swap partition (amongst others) Is that
> > a good idea? Or are there some pitfalls? And which distribution will be
> > the best performing. At this time I am using Ubuntu 8.04. I like it but I
> > did never get cinelerra to work with that. Besides that cinelerra has
> > been removed from the ubuntu repository two months ago, so no updates.
> > Arch linux may be to archaic for me. How is Gentoo?
> > Any comments are welcome.
> >
> > Gerrit
> 

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Monty Montgomery | 1 Feb 2011 04:41
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Re: [CinCV] hardware

gnome color console lets you do full LUT color calibration.  This sort of thing is not nVidia-centric...

Monty

Ichthyostega | 1 Feb 2011 05:19
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Re: [CinCV] lost sound track

E Chalaron schrieb:
> ARRGLLLL how many times did I swear on this one ???

you're not alone ....

Ichthyo

PS: Undo in Cinelerra is problematic, because the way its done it has a
storage limit, and because cursor navigation is also captured, this limit
is exhausted rather quickly. Thus: always better do manual backup copies
of your session XML file (or use a version management system like Git or
Subversion if you can...)
Sean M. Pappalardo | 1 Feb 2011 08:41
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Re: [CinCV] lost sound track


On 02/01/2011 05:19 AM, Ichthyostega wrote:
> E Chalaron schrieb:
>> ARRGLLLL how many times did I swear on this one ???
>
> you're not alone ....

Great, so we're agreed then. :)

I would imagine it's a simple fix. http://bugs.cinelerra.org/ticket/938

(I'd do it myself but I don't have time ATM to set up a build env.)

Sean

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Haldun ALTAN | 1 Feb 2011 10:38
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[CinCV] never too late

Never too late for good vibrations

Just clic to download.
1,5 Mo / 15 sec.

(Casio-Exilim, Gimp, Cinelerra, Audacity, EKD)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11975604/V11.ogg

Haldun.
Scott C. Frase | 1 Feb 2011 16:10
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Re: [CinCV] never too late

> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11975604/V11.ogg
> 
> Haldun.

Nice one, Haldun!
scott
yosepkey | 1 Feb 2011 16:15
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Re: [CinCV] never too late

Very beautiful


Yosepkey

Søren Renner | 1 Feb 2011 17:01
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[CinCV] Re: Cinelerra digest, Vol 1 #3109 - 2 msgs

Yeah nice.

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> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11975604/V11.ogg
>
> Haldun.

Nice one, Haldun!
scott



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Subject: Re: [CinCV] never too late
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Very beautiful


Yosepkey

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Very beautiful<br><br><br>Yosepkey<br>

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Douglas Pollard | 1 Feb 2011 16:32
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Re: [CinCV] never too late

On 02/01/2011 10:15 AM, yosepkey wrote:
> Very beautiful
>
>
> Yosepkey
    Good stuff and very memorable.
                                         Doug

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