[Announce] Second Open Video Developer Meeting

Hi,

The Second Open Video Developers Meeting will take place on the 6th of
March on the #openvideo IRC channel at the freenode IRC network, the
time is: 21:00GMT

The Open Video Developers Meeting aims to shape the future of Linux
and Open Source Video Editing, as well as discussing the development
of a Next Generation Linux Video Editing Software.

A basic List of Discussion Points was already drafted at the wiki,
everyone is encouraged to contribute further topics:

http://pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3/MonthlyMeetings

Cheers,
and have fun,
-Richard

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Re: [Libopenvideo] [Announce] Second Open Video Developer Meeting

Hi

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Richard Spindler
<richard.spindler@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  The Second Open Video Developers Meeting will take place on the 6th of
>  March on the #openvideo IRC channel at the freenode IRC network, the
>  time is: 21:00GMT
>
>  The Open Video Developers Meeting aims to shape the future of Linux
>  and Open Source Video Editing, as well as discussing the development
>  of a Next Generation Linux Video Editing Software.
>
>  A basic List of Discussion Points was already drafted at the wiki,
>  everyone is encouraged to contribute further topics:
>
>  http://pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3/MonthlyMeetings

Why don't you call this what this really is, a Cin3 meeting, instead
of the more generic terminology you used above? As it is it comes
across as propaganda.

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Hi

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Richard Spindler

Cin3 naming: Official Popularity Contest

	PEPPEREPE'!!  (it_IT)
	BUMMPERUMPH!!  (en_EN)

The Official Popularity Contest has been launched!

In few minutes the 357 active subscribers of this list will be invited
to vote at the Condorcet Internet Voting Service.

You can express your preferences on the best 15 names of the ~250
proposed by the community.
The results will be available to all voters at the end of the election.

The voting will be closed on Thursday 6 March 2008 at 20:00 GMT, before
the IRC meeting of the devs that will decide *the* name.

If you would like to vote but you haven't received the invitation,
please send me a mail and I'll add your address to the the voters list.

If you are curious to know how we applied the community criteria for
selecting just 15 names, you can look at the pipawiki page where every
step is documented.
http://pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3/Names#head-3de6cb9c5b4b9c07f7ac972895c38f313a86e554 

Ciao!
Raffaella

Specifying an Alsa surround device

Hello,

I have a question about using Surround sound with Cinelerra. I can set the
number of channels to six, but that does nothing to where Cinellera outputs
those six channels. Programs like mplayer or xine have an option to specify
the Alsa device, and this is usually surround51 or surround71. In my case,
it's surround40routed, but that's because I specified my own alsa device to
convert 5.1 to 4.0.

In any case, the question is, how do I tell Cinelerra to use surround51 as
opposed to the default stereo device?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Cin3 naming: Official Popularity Contest

Re: Cin3 naming

goibhniu wrote:

> That's a really generous offer and much appreciated. I am concerned
> that there isn't the time for it now though. Do you think anything
> could be done before the next meeting on the 6th March?

Well, it looks like the machinery of the name decision has been put in
motion.   The 6th is coming up fast.  I'll see what I can do.  I really
think it's important to make an informed decision, even if for just
myself!

I'll probably modify the usual focus method into something that can be
done in a day or two over the phone instead of an in-person interview. 
Tomorrow I will try and post my methods to a website so others can
duplicate the survey for where they live.  I will try and get something up
by noon pacific time tomorrow.  If you are interested in the results, I'd
recommend holding off on voting, I should have some results back before
the ballot deadline.

Hermann wrote:

> Regarding the focus: We should not be concerned about people's
> opinions or try to impress some Apple company, rather our main
> concern should be to build an application that really works and
> works correct and reliable, is up to the state-of-art, maybe does
> some things better compared with "the average video editing app".

That's the beauty of community development:  You don't have to concern
yourself with that, instead leave it up to people who care and are willing
to do the work.  That way you can keep on developing a kick-ass editing
program!

> And, very important, we should care for good usability in the
> core application area, which is editing film (feature, video,
> documentary, independent, news items, artwork projects, ...).

Agreed.  You work on that.  I will spend some time doing market research
among editors who do features, video, documentary, independent, news
production artists... and see what name will appeal to them the most.

See you on the 6th!

Jay Truesdale

Re: Cin3 naming: Official Popularity Contest

On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 11:50 +0800, Martin Ellison wrote:
> How do we get there? is there a link? I haven't received any mail. 

Martin,
I added your address to the voters list. You should soon receive the
invitation with the link.

Ciao!
Raffaella

Re: Re: [Libopenvideo] [Announce] Second Open Video Developer Meeting

propaganda? for what?
what is wrong with keeping in mind the general situation?
after all, video editing *is* more than one specific application.

On Sunday, 2. March 2008 21:40:02 Dan Dennedy wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Richard Spindler
>
> <richard.spindler@...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >  The Second Open Video Developers Meeting will take place on the 6th of
> >  March on the #openvideo IRC channel at the freenode IRC network, the
> >  time is: 21:00GMT
> >
> >  The Open Video Developers Meeting aims to shape the future of Linux
> >  and Open Source Video Editing, as well as discussing the development
> >  of a Next Generation Linux Video Editing Software.
> >
> >  A basic List of Discussion Points was already drafted at the wiki,
> >  everyone is encouraged to contribute further topics:
> >
> >  http://pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3/MonthlyMeetings
>
> Why don't you call this what this really is, a Cin3 meeting, instead
> of the more generic terminology you used above? As it is it comes
> across as propaganda.

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kurts-film.de

Re: Specifying an Alsa surround device

>  In any case, the question is, how do I tell Cinelerra to use surround51 as
>  opposed to the default stereo device?

Hi Wiebe,

It's not really what you're asking but I just heard about xjadeo
(http://xjadeo.sourceforge.net/) and some discussion on irc suggests
it would be a very powerful solution, albeit outside of cinelerra e.g.
to use ardour for mixing the audio once you've done the compositing in
cinelerra.

Perhaps you can also do what you want through cinelerra, just thought
I'd mention it as an option.

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goibhniu

updates to cvs.cinelerra.org website

Hey guys,
Who is updating the website these days?  On http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs.php, I want to change the link
to my Beginners Guide to Exporting Video to:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/06/beginners-guide-to-exporting-video-from.html

thanks,
scott