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Jaimy Azle | 1 Sep 2009 04:15
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Re: [p4] Upgrading to 2009.1, Where is P4WIN?

On Monday, August 31, 2009, 10:08:17 PM, Ivey, William wrote:

> No, they stopped work on P4Win after 2008.1, the last version of it
> can be found here: ftp://ftp.perforce.com/perforce/r08.1/bin.ntx86/

I really do hope they could add more command line options (such as -H)
as those existed on P4Win into the new P4V to automatically activate
the revision history view, branches, label, etc.

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Salam,

-Jaimy Azle

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 don't give up so easily."
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Brad Holt | 7 Sep 2009 22:35
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[p4] p4 suspend?

I could have sworn there was a particular command that could be run to suspend the database.  Just like what
happens during a "p4d -jj" or during a checkpoint, and would not return until instructed (however that
might happen).  I couldn't find anything about it in the docs so I may have just dreamed it I suppose.

Anyway, there's a group here that wants to experiment with doing this and rsyncing the db.* as a backup scheme.

Thanks.

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Paul-Marc BOUGHARIOS | 8 Sep 2009 09:54
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Re: [p4] p4 suspend?

Hi Brad,

Why wouldn't you consider stopping the Perforce server?
I mean by:
     p4 admin stop

Would that work for you?

Cheers,
Paul-Marc BOUGHARIOS, Engr
http://www.paulmarc.org

May God Be With You

On Sep 8, 2009, at 4:35, Brad Holt <brad.holt <at> autodesk.com> wrote:

> I could have sworn there was a particular command that could be run  
> to suspend the database.  Just like what happens during a "p4d -jj"  
> or during a checkpoint, and would not return until instructed  
> (however that might happen).  I couldn't find anything about it in  
> the docs so I may have just dreamed it I suppose.
>
> Anyway, there's a group here that wants to experiment with doing  
> this and rsyncing the db.* as a backup scheme.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Robert Cowham | 8 Sep 2009 11:54

Re: [p4] p4 suspend?

C:\Download>p4d -h
Usage:

    Checkpointing options:
        -c cmd          lock tables, run command, and exit

Perhaps what you were looking for?

Mind you, I think your guys are on totally the wrong track with rsyncing
db.*

Steer them down the offline checkpoint route:

http://kb.perforce.com/AdminTasks/BackupAndRecovery/OffLineCheckpoints

Or, if you have snapshot capability in your filesystem, then perhaps
consider -c, as mentioned:

http://www.perforce.com/perforce/conferences/eu/2008/presentations/perforce_
richard_baum_presentation.pdf
http://www.perforce.com/perforce/conferences/eu/2008/presentations/perforce_
richard_baum_whitepaper.pdf

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> [mailto:perforce-user-bounces <at> perforce.com] On Behalf Of Brad Holt
> Sent: 07 September 2009 21:36
> To: perforce-user <at> perforce.com
> Subject: [p4] p4 suspend?
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Brad Holt | 8 Sep 2009 16:07
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Re: [p4] p4 suspend?

I don't want to kill any pending user processes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul-Marc BOUGHARIOS [mailto:paulmarc.bougharios <at> gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:54 AM
To: Brad Holt
Cc: perforce-user <at> perforce.com
Subject: Re: [p4] p4 suspend?

Hi Brad,

Why wouldn't you consider stopping the Perforce server?
I mean by:
     p4 admin stop

Would that work for you?

Cheers,
Paul-Marc BOUGHARIOS, Engr
http://www.paulmarc.org

May God Be With You

On Sep 8, 2009, at 4:35, Brad Holt <brad.holt <at> autodesk.com> wrote:

> I could have sworn there was a particular command that could be run  
> to suspend the database.  Just like what happens during a "p4d -jj"  
> or during a checkpoint, and would not return until instructed  
> (however that might happen).  I couldn't find anything about it in  
> the docs so I may have just dreamed it I suppose.
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Brad Holt | 8 Sep 2009 16:09
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Re: [p4] p4 suspend?

Thanks Robert, I reckon that was it.  I wholeheartedly agree on the offline checkpoint (which we do now) vs.
the direct metadata copy.  They want to try the suspend-metadata rsync experiment anyway.

Cheers.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Cowham [mailto:robert <at> vizim.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:55 AM
To: Brad Holt; perforce-user <at> perforce.com
Subject: RE: [p4] p4 suspend?

C:\Download>p4d -h
Usage:

    Checkpointing options:
        -c cmd          lock tables, run command, and exit

Perhaps what you were looking for?

Mind you, I think your guys are on totally the wrong track with rsyncing
db.*

Steer them down the offline checkpoint route:

http://kb.perforce.com/AdminTasks/BackupAndRecovery/OffLineCheckpoints

Or, if you have snapshot capability in your filesystem, then perhaps
consider -c, as mentioned:

http://www.perforce.com/perforce/conferences/eu/2008/presentations/perforce_
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Matt Janulewicz | 8 Sep 2009 22:28
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[p4] Disk allocation over time

I'm trying to determine, after the fact, the disk allocation of certain 
projects over time (monthly for the past two years.) One of our groups 
wants to trend their disk usage and try to predict what they'll need 
over the next year.

Getting the current size of the physical disk allocation is easy enough. 
It's a Windows server and right clicking on a folder and getting the 
properties is no sweat. However, getting older data from Perforce seems 
to be difficult, or at least not the data that I want.

I'm aware of 'p4 sizes' and the -s and -z switches but I believe that 
this gives me the expanded, un-compressed sizes of the files once they 
are synced locally. What I need is a rough idea of how much space these 
archives took up on the server at certain times in the past. I'm aware 
of how lazy copies can affect this calculation and I'm not looking to be 
100% accurate, but I want to be more accurate than 'p4 sizes' because a 
lot of our stuff can be, and is, compressed quite nicely on the server.

As an example, I have a certain tree that is taking up roughly 821 GB of 
physical space on the server. When I report on it with 'p4 sizes -z -a' 
it returns that it is taking up over 1400 GB, which seems like a 
reasonable compression ratio. But is there a way to get that 821 GB 
figure directly out of Perforce? Or should I assume a relatively 
consistent compression ratio and extrapolate from there?

How have others tackled this question?

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Robert Cowham | 9 Sep 2009 12:18

Re: [p4] Disk allocation over time

An order of magnitude type approach would be to list all archive files by
creation/modification time and check the sizes of the ,d entries (adjusting
for .gz or not). This would certainly give you good approximations for
binary files - *usually* the majority of the space. 

A bit of creativity on mod times of ,v files might add some refinement - in
conjunction with p4 filelog or fstat output, but that may not be worth the
effort.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: perforce-user-bounces <at> perforce.com 
> [mailto:perforce-user-bounces <at> perforce.com] On Behalf Of Matt 
> Janulewicz
> Sent: 08 September 2009 21:28
> To: perforce-user <at> perforce.com
> Subject: [p4] Disk allocation over time
> 
> I'm trying to determine, after the fact, the disk allocation 
> of certain projects over time (monthly for the past two 
> years.) One of our groups wants to trend their disk usage and 
> try to predict what they'll need over the next year.
> 
> Getting the current size of the physical disk allocation is 
> easy enough. 
> It's a Windows server and right clicking on a folder and 
> getting the properties is no sweat. However, getting older 
> data from Perforce seems to be difficult, or at least not the 
> data that I want.
> 
> I'm aware of 'p4 sizes' and the -s and -z switches but I
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Sophie, Dan | 9 Sep 2009 22:06

[p4] P4EXP - Windows Explorer Integration Issue

I can't get the P4EXP to work properly.  For starters I cannot change
the perforce server.  I use 2 servers, one for testing some perforce
structure changes and one for actual company work.  It also seems that I
can't use a workspace other than my user name with the plugin.

All I get with the plugin under the menu system is a 'no workspace has
been set for this connection', connection information, preferences and
help.  I've uninstalled all previous versions of perforce and
reinstalled the latest.  Under connection information I get an unknown
client.  The only time I got a client was when I had a workspace with my
username.  I've done some searching but I can't find any information on
getting this to work.  Am I missing something?  I've tried having
perforce open with a workspace selected and with perforce closed but I
get the same results.

Thanks,

Dan
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Ben Ben | 10 Sep 2009 09:18
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Re: [p4] P4EXP - Windows Explorer Integration Issue

Hi Dan,

I believe P4Exp relies on your default configuration, so settings will be
taken from "p4 set" command.
have you try opening a command line and change p4 set
P4PORT=YourOtherServerAddress ?

Ben

2009/9/9 Sophie, Dan <DSophie <at> mem-ins.com>

> I can't get the P4EXP to work properly.  For starters I cannot change
> the perforce server.  I use 2 servers, one for testing some perforce
> structure changes and one for actual company work.  It also seems that I
> can't use a workspace other than my user name with the plugin.
>
> All I get with the plugin under the menu system is a 'no workspace has
> been set for this connection', connection information, preferences and
> help.  I've uninstalled all previous versions of perforce and
> reinstalled the latest.  Under connection information I get an unknown
> client.  The only time I got a client was when I had a workspace with my
> username.  I've done some searching but I can't find any information on
> getting this to work.  Am I missing something?  I've tried having
> perforce open with a workspace selected and with perforce closed but I
> get the same results.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
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