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Matt Janulewicz | 1 Aug 2008 01:21
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Re: [p4] P4Win moved to "Legacy Software"

Really? Just a command prompt? Don't most OS's have a command prompt? Seems like it should be pretty easy to
make a custom tool that launches a command prompt.

I've used P4Win for a total of about 10 minutes in the past six years, so maybe I'm just naieve and don't know
any better, but I kind of like P4V. Maybe P4Win has this stuff now, but with regard to P4V I like:

1. Cross-platform GUI exactly the same.
2. I like the tab for local workspace view vs the menu on P4Win.
3. Cut/copy/paste navigation bar at top. (This one is hugely convenient.)
4. Easier to switch between clients with pulldown menu. Ditto for connections.
5. P4V's windows don't pop up and float all over the place (unless you want them to.)
6. 'Reconcile Offline Work' option. (This one is also way awesome if you have folks that work disconnected.)
7. The label icon looks like a label/tag. What's up with that paperclip? :)

I've steered my users toward P4V for the last couple years because Perforce has been threatening to
deprecate P4Win for some time and I don't want to be left in the lurch when they finally drop it for good. The
only folks that complain about P4V (in my direct experience) are ones that use P4Win and don't spend the
time to get used to it. I'm not sure why P4V is held up as a tool that should be an instant replacement,
identical to P4Win. Any other time you change tools (bug trackers, compilers, IDE's, etc.) folks tend to
be a little more leniant until they learn it. 

Give peace a chance. Give P4V a chance.

-Matt Janulewicz
Perforce Administrator
Lucasfilm Entertainment Company Limited
matt.janulewicz <at> lucasfilm.com
415-746-5694

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Shawn Hladky | 1 Aug 2008 01:53
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Re: [p4] P4Win moved to "Legacy Software"

>>The lack of a "Command Prompt" option is a show-stopper for me.

That's a new feature in 2008.1.  I've done it via a simple custom tool for a
couple years now.
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Hugo Lamelas | 1 Aug 2008 05:03
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[p4] Hugo Lamelas/CEG/CSC is out of the office.


I will be out of the office starting  31/07/2008 and will not return until
18/08/2008.

Please Contact  Ronald Prettyman  for ezSource related issues
Para cualquier asunto relacionado con Telefónica contactar con Diego Alonso
López (dalonsolopez <at> csc.com)

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Dennis Roche | 1 Aug 2008 07:04
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Re: [p4] P4Win moved to "Legacy Software"

Yes. There is an explorer shell extension.

P4EXP: Plug-in for Windows Explorer. 
http://www.perforce.com/perforce/downloads/platform.html

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From: perforce-user-bounces <at> perforce.com
[mailto:perforce-user-bounces <at> perforce.com] On Behalf Of Calman, Kevin
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 8:46 AM
To: perforce-user <at> perforce.com
Subject: Re: [p4] P4Win moved to "Legacy Software"

| -----Original Message-----
| I see that with 2008.1, P4Win has been moved to the "Legacy Software"
| page, and made annoying to download to discourage users.
|  
| Does everyone here feel that P4V has finally achieved the 
| level of quality as P4Win?  

	It has been a long time since I have used P4V; I completely gave up
on it on Windows when they took the P4Win installer out of the primary
client package, and as pointed out elsewhere, rarely use it in the Linux
environment, being proficient in the CLI.
	The one thing I think most of my users would miss should they be
deprived of a supported P4Win, would be the Windows Explorer integration. At
the moment, it is the easiest way to add an entire directory tree to the
depot. Does the P4V package for Windows include a similar functionality?
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Opinions herein are exclusively my own, unless you share them.
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raja | 1 Aug 2008 07:23

Re: [p4] Diff of pending changelist

p4 diff -c changelistnumber
Even if it's not submitted.
Raja
www.cmbasics.com
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From: Keatton Lee <klee <at> atg.com>

Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:45:49 
To: <perforce-user <at> perforce.com>
Subject: [p4] Diff of pending changelist

Is there a command to get a diff of all files in a /pending/ changlist?  
I know you can do a p4 describe for submitted changelists, but I don't 
see anything similar for pending changlists.

- Keatton
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Listman | 1 Aug 2008 09:15

Re: [p4] 2 questions


thx for the response robert

On Aug 1, 2008, at 12:09 AM- Aug 1, 2008, Robert Cowham wrote:

>> 1) can i p4 add a file thats outside of my client root?
>
> No.
>
>> i have stuff all over my filesystem i'd like to manage. do i
>> have to copy them all over first?
>
> Well you could have a root of / :) Then you would need view mapping  
> lines
> for the various directories you want to manage. Not really  
> recommended but
> workable.
>
> Generally better is to have multiple client workspaces.
>

ah well, i remember the days of svn import ..

thx!
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Robert Cowham | 1 Aug 2008 09:44

Re: [p4] Diff of pending changelist

Unfortunately this is one of those options which should exist but doesn't :)

C:\bruno_ws\test>p4 diff -c 1064
Usage: diff [ -d<flags> -f -m max -s<flag> -t ] [files...]
Invalid option: -c.

Meanwhile it's a bit of command line fu :) 

Personally I would script, but something like this should do it (ignoring
spaces in filenames):

p4 -ztag describe 1064 | grep depotFile | cut -d" " -f3 | p4 -x - diff
==== //depot/Jam/MAIN/src/jambase.c#33 - c:\bruno_ws\test\jambase-MAIN.c
====
1321a1322
> fred

> -----Original Message-----
> From: perforce-user-bounces <at> perforce.com 
> [mailto:perforce-user-bounces <at> perforce.com] On Behalf Of 
> raja <at> cmbasics.com
> Sent: 01 August 2008 06:24
> To: Keatton Lee; perforce-user-bounces <at> perforce.com; 
> perforce-user <at> perforce.com
> Subject: Re: [p4] Diff of pending changelist
> 
> p4 diff -c changelistnumber
> Even if it's not submitted.
> Raja
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Steve Williams | 1 Aug 2008 09:45
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Re: [p4] P4Win moved to "Legacy Software"

...which requires P4Win for most of its functionality.

Steve 'Sly' Williams
Lead Programmer
Krome Studios

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From: perforce-user-bounces <at> perforce.com [mailto:perforce-user-bounces <at> perforce.com] On Behalf
Of Dennis Roche
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 3:04 PM
To: 'Calman, Kevin'; perforce-user <at> perforce.com
Subject: Re: [p4] P4Win moved to "Legacy Software"

Yes. There is an explorer shell extension.

P4EXP: Plug-in for Windows Explorer.
http://www.perforce.com/perforce/downloads/platform.html

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Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 8:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [p4] P4Win moved to "Legacy Software"

| -----Original Message-----
| I see that with 2008.1, P4Win has been moved to the "Legacy Software"
| page, and made annoying to download to discourage users.
|
| Does everyone here feel that P4V has finally achieved the
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Damian Van Dooren | 1 Aug 2008 13:15
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Re: [p4] P4d running under VMWare

Guillaume, Shawn,

I'm curious as to what you guys have defined for your resources for
your perforce VMs that handle 500 + users. How much RAM have you
assigned? And how are your disks setup, ie. are you running the
database on a VMFS volume, RAW LUN, or NFS, likewise for the depot
files?

Guillaume, I've read recently that version 3.5 of ESX now handles
multiple CPU VMs a lot better since they've updated their algorithms,
and no longer need to wait for all cores to free up to give the VM the
resources it needs. So I was just wondering which version of ESX that
you were running?

Cheers,
 - Damian

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jamison, Shawn <sjamison <at> ciena.com> wrote:
> I have 5 out of 6 of my perforce servers running as VM Guests.  One of
> them is used very heavily with 500 users, 100-200 of them active at any
> given time.
>
> You just need to scale the VM host to have the horsepower to run the
> various VM guests.
>
>
> -Shawn Jamison>
> Ciena Corp.
> Perforce Admin
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Jamison, Shawn | 1 Aug 2008 16:39

[p4] P4 server auditing

Has anyone used the P4 server's auditing feature and if you have what
you were you able to accomplish?

I have several "new" admins that are not under my direct control and I
would like a detailed log of what they are doing and was hoping that the
audit log would be of use.

Thanks
-Shawn Jamison>
Ciena Corp.
Perforce Admin

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