Argentina DST

My timezone seems to have just changed to Argentina Summer Time

$ date "+%H:%M:%S %z %Z"
01:39:17 -0200 ARST

If this change was correct, I'd expect to have heard something about it in
the news. *Spring* started a few weeks ago, not summer. Is it really
supposed to start now?

Re: Argentina DST

Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> My timezone seems to have just changed to Argentina Summer Time
> 
> $ date "+%H:%M:%S %z %Z"
> 01:39:17 -0200 ARST
> 
> If this change was correct, I'd expect to have heard something about it in
> the news. *Spring* started a few weeks ago, not summer. Is it really
> supposed to start now?

According to this website:
http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/argentina-dst-2008-2009.html

and a thread that I just noticed on this mailing list, it's supposed to
start on October 19th. Today is 5th.

By the way, I use Ubuntu Hardy (maybe you already fixed the tzdata but
Ubuntu didn't pick it).

Re: Argentina DST

Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> According to this website:
> http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/argentina-dst-2008-2009.html
> 
> and a thread that I just noticed on this mailing list, it's supposed to
> start on October 19th. Today is 5th.
> 
> By the way, I use Ubuntu Hardy (maybe you already fixed the tzdata but
> Ubuntu didn't pick it).

I just looked on "important" news sites... didn't find any news on the
timezone changing, but *their* clocks match mine! (2:32), while
time-dedicated sites like timeanddate.com say it changes on the 19th and
show a different time (1:32).

Re: Argentina DST

    Date:        Sun, 05 Oct 2008 01:48:09 -0200
    From:        Nicolas Alvarez <nicolas.alvarez <at> gmail.com>
    Message-ID:  <gc9dd4$cvb$2 <at> ger.gmane.org>

  | By the way, I use Ubuntu Hardy (maybe you already fixed the tzdata but
  | Ubuntu didn't pick it).

The current tzdata seems to say that the start date should be the
first Sunday on or after the 15th (the 3rd Sunday in October.
This year, that is the 19th.)   I am not sure if we are certain that
"3rd Sunday" is correct, but Oct 19 2008 seems to have been intended.

You can fetch the current tzdata from
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2008f.tar.gz

(or from ftp://munnari.oz.au/pub/tzdata2008f.tar.gz )

Assuming your system providez the zic command, you should be able to
convert the southamerica file in the tzdata distribution into the
zone files for all the South American zones, including all of those
for Argentina.  Beware that there will soon be another update to
deal with recent changes in Brazil.

If you don't have zic (in /usr/sbin most likely) then you can also
fetch the sources:
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzcode2008e.tar.tz
is the most recent (or from the similar path at munnari.oz.au), build
that, and use the zic contained there - but only do that as a last resort,
and test the zone files produces from that zic before installing them to
ensure they're compatible with your libc routines.

AUTO: Fang Lu/Fairfax/IBM is out of the office. (returning 10/16/2008)

Re: Argentina DST

At least in ubuntu hardy, with current updates, tzdata is at 2008e (not
2008f) which expected the change to be today...

If you have the binary tzdata package installed, all you have to do is:

cd /tmp
wget ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2008f.tar.gz
tar xzvf tzdata2008f.tar.gz
zic southamerica



I just reported this in Launchpad, but I don't think they'll upgrade the
package today 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/278623

Robert Elz escribió el 05/10/08 03:03:
>     Date:        Sun, 05 Oct 2008 01:48:09 -0200
>     From:        Nicolas Alvarez <nicolas.alvarez <at> gmail.com>
>     Message-ID:  <gc9dd4$cvb$2 <at> ger.gmane.org>
>
>   | By the way, I use Ubuntu Hardy (maybe you already fixed the tzdata but
>   | Ubuntu didn't pick it).
>
> The current tzdata seems to say that the start date should be the
> first Sunday on or after the 15th (the 3rd Sunday in October.
> This year, that is the 19th.)   I am not sure if we are certain that
> "3rd Sunday" is correct, but Oct 19 2008 seems to have been intended.
>
> You can fetch the current tzdata from
> 	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2008f.tar.gz
>
> (or from ftp://munnari.oz.au/pub/tzdata2008f.tar.gz )
>
> Assuming your system providez the zic command, you should be able to
> convert the southamerica file in the tzdata distribution into the
> zone files for all the South American zones, including all of those
> for Argentina.  Beware that there will soon be another update to
> deal with recent changes in Brazil.
>
> If you don't have zic (in /usr/sbin most likely) then you can also
> fetch the sources:
> 	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzcode2008e.tar.tz
> is the most recent (or from the similar path at munnari.oz.au), build
> that, and use the zic contained there - but only do that as a last resort,
> and test the zone files produces from that zic before installing them to
> ensure they're compatible with your libc routines.
>
> kre
>
>   

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Re: Argentina DST

Mariano Absatz - El Baby wrote:
> At least in ubuntu hardy, with current updates, tzdata is at 2008e (not
> 2008f) which expected the change to be today...

The scary thing was seeing the wrong time in clarin.com...

My iPod also thinks we're in DST, and my dad's Mac doesn't.

What a mess

Re: Argentina DST

There is some interesting discussion here:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=501169

Re: FW: Australian DST abbreviations causing business problems - still

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Eric Ulevik <eulevik <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E]
> <olsona <at> dc37a.nci.nih.gov> wrote:
>> With Australian summer impending, monitoring of the
>> Australian Broadcasting Corporation and other sources may be in order.
> A good source for reliable time reports is 'ABC NewsRadio'.

ABC NewsRadio have been referring to 'Eastern Standard Time' and
'Eastern Summer Time'.

Argentina DST