Paul Eggert | 3 Jan 00:02 2006

Re: New Brunswick switches at 00:01, not 02:00; new Zone needed

[I'm sending this on behalf of Clive D.W. Feather, who had problems with
sending email to <tz <at> lecserver.nci.nih.gov>.]

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From: "Clive D.W. Feather" <clive <at> demon.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:34:14 +0000

Paul Eggert said:
> I found a copy of New Brunswick's Time Definition Act consolidated to
> 2005-07-15 <http://www.gnb.ca/0062/PDF-acts/t-06.pdf> and it confirms
> that New Brunswick switches to and from DST at 00:01 rather than
> 02:00.

> Page 2 of the above reference says "1965, c.7, s.1; 1973, c.74, s.75;
> 1993, c.9, s.1; 2005, c.7, s.83."  I assume this refers to dates when
> the law changed,

It looks to me like references to the legislation making the change. In the
UK, the first of these would be "section 1 of chapter 7 of the laws of
1965"; chapter 7 is, in turn, the 7th Public Act passed in that year. Since
the cited work says "This Act is consolidated to <date>", I presume it's a
publication that applies all the various amending Acts up to that date.

Hmm; 2005 c.7 is "An Act Respecting Rural Communities"
<http://www.gnb.ca/0062/acts/BBA-2005/Chap-7.pdf>. Section 83 is titled
"Time Definition Act" and, found on page 123, reads:

83 Subsection 1(1) of the French version of the Time Definition Act, chapter
T-6 of the Revised Statutes, 1973, is amended by striking out "municipal".
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Clive D.W. Feather | 3 Jan 09:26 2006
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TZ list test

My apologies, but I'm trying to reproduce the problem I had sending to the
list.

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Arthur David Olson | 17 Jan 17:25 2006
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zgress

As a preamble to the impending next attempt at 64-bit changes,
below find a script (given the name "zgress" here at elsie)
to check on differences between two time zone implementations.

				--ado

#!/bin/sh

# Accept the names of two time zone package source directories (A and B).
# Do a "make install" from each directory to temporary directories.
# Apply the created "zdump" programs to all the created binary data files:
#	the A zdump to the A data (yielding AA results)
#	the A zdump to the B data (yielding AB results)
#	the B zdump to the A data (yielding BA results)
#	the B zdump to the B data (yielding BB results)
# Report on differences.

O=`basename "$0"`

case $# in
	2)	;;
	*)	echo "$O: usage is $O atzsourcedir btzsourcedir" 1>&2
		exit 1
		;;
esac

T=/tmp/,zgress$$

trap 'rm -f -r $T*' 0 1 2 3 15

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Paul Schauble | 18 Jan 00:39 2006
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Why America/Shiprock?


I was just looking at the tzdata file for the entry for the Navajo Nation. 

I'm curious why this entry is named America/Shiprock when the capitol of the
Navajo Nation is Window Rock. Can anyone enlighten me?

  Thanks,
    ++PLS

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RE: Why America/Shiprock?

We use the most populous city in a zone by default; this is the same as
the case with America/New_York versus America/Washington.

				--ado

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Schauble [mailto:Paul.Schauble <at> ticketmaster.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:39 PM
To: tz <at> lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Subject: Why America/Shiprock?

 
I was just looking at the tzdata file for the entry for the Navajo
Nation. 

I'm curious why this entry is named America/Shiprock when the capitol of
the Navajo Nation is Window Rock. Can anyone enlighten me?

  Thanks,
    ++PLS

Jesper Norgaard Welen | 18 Jan 07:17 2006
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RE: Why America/Shiprock?


From the disambiguation page about capitol in Wikipedia,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol

"Capitol is the name generally given to the building in which the
executive and/or legislative branches of government are housed. The term
is most often used by republics. The city or town in which a capitol
building resides is called the capital of the entity over which that
particular government has jurisdiction."

So in fact Window Rock is the capital of the Navajo Nation, not the
capitol, I presume. Just my 5 cents, since English is not my native
language. Of course this doesn't change why Shiprock was chosen over
Window Rock ...

- Jesper Nørgaard Welen

-----Original Message-----
From: Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E]
[mailto:olsona <at> dc37a.nci.nih.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 17:44
To: tz <at> lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Subject: RE: Why America/Shiprock?

We use the most populous city in a zone by default; this is the same as
the case with America/New_York versus America/Washington.

				--ado

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Deborah Goldsmith | 19 Jan 01:37 2006
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DOT issues final ruling on Indiana time zones

The DOT final ruling on Indiana came out today:
http://www.dot.gov/affairs/dot0406.htm

Based on my reading of this document, only one zone in tzdata is  
affected, America/Indiana/Knox. That zone will start observing US  
Central Time starting April 2, 2006, at the time of the switchover to  
Daylight Savings Time. Probably the easiest thing to do is to change  
the last two lines as follows:

From:
			-5:00	-	EST	2006
			-5:00	US	E%sT
to:
			-5:00	-	EST	2006 Apr 2 2:00
			-5:00	US	C%sT

assuming I'm interpreting everything correctly. The DOT doesn't  
specify whether Starke county switch to Central Time at the  
appropriate time for its old or new time zone, but I'm assuming the  
old here. That leads to it falling back from 2:00AM EST to 1:00AM  
CST, and then again from 2:00AM CST to 1:00AM CST. If that makes  
people nervous, then the transition would need to be at 3:00 AM.

Deborah Goldsmith
Internationalization, Unicode liaison
Apple Computer, Inc.
goldsmit <at> apple.com

Deborah Goldsmith | 19 Jan 02:10 2006
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Re: DOT issues final ruling on Indiana time zones

I found the docket:

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf95/382329_web.pdf

which contains the following sentence:

> DATES: The effective date of this rule is 2:OO a.m. EST Sunday,  
> April 2, 2006, which is the
> changeover date from standard time to Daylight Saving Time.

Deborah

On Jan 18, 2006, at 4:37 PM, Deborah Goldsmith wrote:

> The DOT final ruling on Indiana came out today:
> http://www.dot.gov/affairs/dot0406.htm
>
> Based on my reading of this document, only one zone in tzdata is  
> affected, America/Indiana/Knox. That zone will start observing US  
> Central Time starting April 2, 2006, at the time of the switchover  
> to Daylight Savings Time. Probably the easiest thing to do is to  
> change the last two lines as follows:
>
> From:
> 			-5:00	-	EST	2006
> 			-5:00	US	E%sT
> to:
> 			-5:00	-	EST	2006 Apr 2 2:00
> 			-5:00	US	C%sT
>
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Paul Schauble | 19 Jan 02:38 2006
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RE: DOT issues final ruling on Indiana time zones

Since this is in the spring, shouldn't that last change be from 2AM CST to
3AM CDT?

    ++PLS

-----Original Message-----
From: tz-request <at> elsie.nci.nih.gov [mailto:tz-request <at> elsie.nci.nih.gov] On
Behalf Of Deborah Goldsmith
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:38 PM
To: tz <at> lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Subject: DOT issues final ruling on Indiana time zones

<snip>
assuming I'm interpreting everything correctly. The DOT doesn't specify
whether Starke county switch to Central Time at the appropriate time for its
old or new time zone, but I'm assuming the old here. That leads to it
falling back from 2:00AM EST to 1:00AM CST, and then again from 2:00AM CST
to 1:00AM CST. If that makes people nervous, then the transition would need
to be at 3:00 AM.

Deborah Goldsmith
Internationalization, Unicode liaison
Apple Computer, Inc.
goldsmit <at> apple.com

Deborah Goldsmith | 19 Jan 03:11 2006
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Re: DOT issues final ruling on Indiana time zones

You're right, that should have been "fall back from 2:00 AM EST to  
1:00 AM CST, then again from 2:00 AM CST to 1:00 AM CDT". Sorry about  
that.

 From the final DOT ruling (posted earlier) it appears as though that  
is in fact the correct behavior, too, as odd as it is.

Deborah

On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:38 PM, Paul Schauble wrote:

> Since this is in the spring, shouldn't that last change be from 2AM  
> CST to
> 3AM CDT?
>
>     ++PLS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tz-request <at> elsie.nci.nih.gov [mailto:tz- 
> request <at> elsie.nci.nih.gov] On
> Behalf Of Deborah Goldsmith
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:38 PM
> To: tz <at> lecserver.nci.nih.gov
> Subject: DOT issues final ruling on Indiana time zones
>
> <snip>
> assuming I'm interpreting everything correctly. The DOT doesn't  
> specify
> whether Starke county switch to Central Time at the appropriate  
> time for its
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