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Jörg Sommer | 3 Aug 2006 17:24
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Re: xindy is not quiet

Hello,

Joachim Schrod schrieb am Sun 30. Jul, 12:10 (+0200):
> >>>>> "JS" == Jörg Sommer <joerg <at> alea.gnuu.de> writes:
> JS> why does xindy -q (aka. texindy -q) print out what it is doing? It
> JS> should be quiet.
> 
> Could you please elaborate?
> 
> puma:tests $ texindy -q quote+escape.idx 
> puma:tests $ xindy -q -L general -M texindy quote+escape.idx 

Both commands print out the same as without -q

All messages go to stderr instead of stdout.

% xindy -L general -M texindy quote+escape.idx 2>/dev/null 
%

I found this function in base.lsp:

(defmacro info (&rest msg)
  `(APPLY #'FORMAT *ERROR-OUTPUT* (LIST , <at> msg)))

The ERROR-OUTPUT looks to me like stderr. Right?

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Joachim Schrod | 4 Aug 2006 17:58
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Re: xindy is not quiet

>>>>> "JS" == Jörg Sommer <joerg <at> alea.gnuu.de> writes:
>> 
>> puma:tests $ texindy -q quote+escape.idx 
>> puma:tests $ xindy -q -L general -M texindy quote+escape.idx 

JS> Both commands print out the same as without -q
JS> All messages go to stderr instead of stdout.

JS> I found this function in base.lsp:

JS> (defmacro info (&rest msg)
JS>   `(APPLY #'FORMAT *ERROR-OUTPUT* (LIST , <at> msg)))

JS> The ERROR-OUTPUT looks to me like stderr. Right?

Yes, you're right. Your code analysis is correct, and I can't explain
the behaviour on my system. But I can't reproduce your behaviour,
either. Sigh.

In your ort, you use a different CLISP than the one that is bundled
with xindy, don't you? What is your output of "xindy -V"?

	Joachim

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Jörg Sommer | 5 Aug 2006 16:22
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Re: xindy is not quiet

Hallo Joachim,

Joachim Schrod schrieb am Fri 04. Aug, 17:58 (+0200):
> >>>>> "JS" == Jörg Sommer <joerg <at> alea.gnuu.de> writes:
> >> 
> >> puma:tests $ texindy -q quote+escape.idx 
> >> puma:tests $ xindy -q -L general -M texindy quote+escape.idx 
> 
> JS> Both commands print out the same as without -q
> JS> All messages go to stderr instead of stdout.
> 
> JS> I found this function in base.lsp:
> 
> JS> (defmacro info (&rest msg)
> JS>   `(APPLY #'FORMAT *ERROR-OUTPUT* (LIST , <at> msg)))
> 
> JS> The ERROR-OUTPUT looks to me like stderr. Right?
> 
> Yes, you're right. Your code analysis is correct, and I can't explain
> the behaviour on my system. But I can't reproduce your behaviour,
> either. Sigh.

I've changed this to *STANDARD-OUTPUT*. BTW: Are you interested in my
patches for the Debian package?

> In your ort, you use a different CLISP than the one that is bundled
> with xindy, don't you? What is your output of "xindy -V"?

% xindy -V
xindy release: 2.2-beta2
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Joachim Schrod | 5 Aug 2006 19:08
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Re: xindy is not quiet

>>>>> "JS" == Jörg Sommer <joerg <at> alea.gnuu.de> writes:

Hello Jörg,

JS> I've changed this to *STANDARD-OUTPUT*.

Yes, that's the Right Thing.

JS> BTW: Are you interested in my patches for the Debian package?

Yes. I have the patch that you sent at January 17, 2006; both a newer
full patch, or changes from then would be fine, whatever is easier for
you.

While you're online, I'll try to avoid reading the documentation. :-)
You requested to set AM_MAINTAINER_MODE in configure.ac, and I think
that this is very sensible. Well, when one uses configure
--enable-maintainer-mode to produce the Makefiles for the maintainer
tree; is there a make target that recreates the *.in files without
maintainer-mode enabled? Or does one call autoconf / automake
manually?

I.e., what is your process to create a distributable source tree when
you use AM_MAINTAINER_MODE?

Best,
	Joachim

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Yves Codet | 8 Aug 2006 14:45
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Re: Xindy on Mac OS X


Hello.

I'm still unable to compile xindy-2.2-beta2 on an Intel Mac running  
Mac OS X 10.4.7, though I have tried about everything a naive user  
can try. Could anybody compile it on that platform? If so, I would be  
grateful if I was told how. If not, can we expect a new version in a  
not too remore future?

Best wishes,

Yves

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Jörg Sommer | 8 Aug 2006 16:59
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Re: xindy is not quiet

Hello,

Joachim Schrod schrieb am Sat 05. Aug, 19:08 (+0200):
> >>>>> "JS" == Jörg Sommer <joerg <at> alea.gnuu.de> writes:
> 
> JS> BTW: Are you interested in my patches for the Debian package?
> 
> Yes. I have the patch that you sent at January 17, 2006; both a newer
> full patch, or changes from then would be fine, whatever is easier for
> you.

I've split them into separate patches. I place them at
http://www.minet.uni-jena.de/~joergs/xindy

> While you're online, I'll try to avoid reading the documentation. :-)
> You requested to set AM_MAINTAINER_MODE in configure.ac, and I think
> that this is very sensible. Well, when one uses configure
> --enable-maintainer-mode to produce the Makefiles for the maintainer
> tree; is there a make target that recreates the *.in files without
> maintainer-mode enabled? Or does one call autoconf / automake
> manually?

Sorry. I don't know. I get this hit on a debian developer list. AFAIK you
must call autoconf/automake manually, if you've set AM_MAINTAINER_MODE.

> I.e., what is your process to create a distributable source tree when
> you use AM_MAINTAINER_MODE?

I found these two files in the deborphan package:
,----[ autogen.sh ]---
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Marc | 15 Aug 2006 11:28
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Cross referencing to a subentry

Hello!

Using xindy under Latex (Lamed, to be exact) I try to cross reference a
subentry of the sort \index[geo]{{Elba|see{Italien!Elba}} with the
target entry being \index[geo]{Italien!Elba}.

This processes all right, but results in the printed version in "see
ItalienElba" which is hardly the desired output.  Using
\index[geo]{{Elba|see{Italien, Elba}} as in 11.1.3 of the Latex
Companion gives acceptable output, but (unsurprisingly) the warning
"ERROR: Cross-reference-target ("Italien, Elba") does not exist!". Any
suggestion how to handle this problem?

Thanks in advance!

Best regards,

Marc

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Simon Spiegel | 30 Aug 2006 16:23
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Markup ranges

Hi,

the following snippet from the FAQ doesn't work:

(markup-range :class "pagenums" :close "f."  :length 1 :ignore-end)
(markup-range :class "pagenums" :close "ff." :length 2 :ignore-end)
(markup-range :class "pagenums" :sep "--")

When I use this, I get a "WARNING: parameter `"pagenums"' is not a  
location-reference class! (ignored)". The syntax seems to have  
changed here, what is the proper way to get page numbers with "f."

TIA

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Simon Spiegel | 30 Aug 2006 19:56
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Re: Markup ranges


On 30.08.2006, at 16:23, Simon Spiegel wrote:

> Hi,
>
> the following snippet from the FAQ doesn't work:
>
> (markup-range :class "pagenums" :close "f."  :length 1 :ignore-end)
> (markup-range :class "pagenums" :close "ff." :length 2 :ignore-end)
> (markup-range :class "pagenums" :sep "--")
>
> When I use this, I get a "WARNING: parameter `"pagenums"' is not a
> location-reference class! (ignored)". The syntax seems to have
> changed here, what is the proper way to get page numbers with "f."
>
>

Ok, got it myself, the following did the trick:

(define-location-class "arabic-page-numbers" ("arabic-numbers") :min- 
range-length 1)
(markup-range :class "arabic-page-numbers" :close "\,f." :length  
1 :ignore-end)
(markup-range :class "arabic-page-numbers" :close "\,ff." :length  
2 :ignore-end)

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Joachim Schrod | 31 Aug 2006 01:31
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Re: Cross referencing to a subentry

>>>>> "M" == Marc  <klists <at> saphor.de> writes:

M> Using xindy under Latex (Lamed, to be exact) I try to cross reference a
M> subentry of the sort \index[geo]{{Elba|see{Italien!Elba}} with the
M> target entry being \index[geo]{Italien!Elba}.

Add 

(markup-crossref-layer-list :sep ", ")

to your xindy style, or to modules/base/makeindex.xdy, where it will
be in the future.

Best,
	Joachim

PS: Sorry for the late answer; I had no proper Internet connection in
the last two weeks.

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