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V. Sasi Kumar | 2 May 2008 13:11
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Typesetting Malayalam old lipi using Omega (omal)

I am trying to trying to typeset Malayalam using Omega with the omal
package. How can I get old lipi using this? I found a small bug too.
When typing ത്തോ, it does not appear properly in the dvi or pdf files if
typed in the usual way. I found that it appears properly if I
type ത്ത first and then add േ and ാ separately. But the other letters I
tried appeared properly. 

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Alex A.J. | 3 May 2008 11:44
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Re: Typesetting Malayalam old lipi using Omega (omal)

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 4:41 PM, V. Sasi Kumar
<sasi.keraladevelopment <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> I am trying to trying to typeset Malayalam using Omega with the omal
>  package. How can I get old lipi using this? I found a small bug too.

Please read the documentation for a full list of options.
Use the following option:
\usepackage[oldlipi]{omal}

>  When typing ത്തോ, it does not appear properly in the dvi or pdf files if
>  typed in the usual way. I found that it appears properly if I
>  type ത്ത first and then add േ and ാ separately. But the other letters I
>  tried appeared properly.
>

Thanks for pointing this out. I didn't notice it. I'll release a patch soon.
It is not present in oldlipi though.

Regards
Alex.
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V. Sasi Kumar | 3 May 2008 12:25
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Re: Typesetting Malayalam old lipi using Omega (omal)

On Sat, 2008-05-03 at 15:14 +0530, Alex A.J. wrote:
> 
> Please read the documentation for a full list of options.
> Use the following option:
> \usepackage[oldlipi]{omal}

Thank you. I should have read the documentation more carefully.

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Swami Pallasena | 3 May 2008 14:08
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Re: Typesetting Malayalam old lipi using Omega (omal)

I have no problem  getting the characters "tto, ttOD, kto, ktO " in xpdf
in Malayalam Omega1.0.2 correctly using old lipi.
\usepackage[malheads,oldlipi]{omal}.
I am using TeXLive running in Fedora Core 5.

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Swami Pallasena | 12 May 2008 15:02
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Malayalam LaTeX 0.9.6 - old lipi (rachana) problems

While processing with "old lipi" option, that is,
 	\usepackage[rachana]{malayalam}
 	mal file.mm rachana
the following compound syllables are processed only in the
New Lipi (and not in rachana old lipi).

1. "yu", "yuu" combinations after a consonant such as
kyu, cyu, gyu, Tyu, Syu, shyU, cyuu, gyuu, Tyuu, bhyuu,  etc.
are processed only in New Lipi. How can we ask the preprocessor to get old 
lipi in these cases?

2. R (or L) + a double consonant +  u(U) such as
Rkku, Rjju, Rnnu, TppU, Lkku, Ljju, LTTu, LTTuu, Lkkuu,  etc
produce only the New lipi, but the problem can be solved if we
use a "{}" after the R/L  as in 
R{}kku, R{}jju, L{}TTu, and so on.

The problem with "Rva" (use "R{}va") is already pointed out in the 
documentation for Malayalam TEx 0.9.6  (page 9).

I guess these are minor limitations of the "mal" pre-processor
sinceall the above syllables are printedcorrectly  in Old Lipi while
using Malayalam Omega 1.0.2 with "old lipi" option.
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Alex A.J. | 13 May 2008 07:14
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Re: Malayalam LaTeX 0.9.6 - old lipi (rachana) problems

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Swami Pallasena <swami@...> wrote:

Hi,

These are known issues. I haven't yet figured out a solution. These
are limitations
of the preprocessor.

>  1. "yu", "yuu" combinations after a consonant such as
>  kyu, cyu, gyu, Tyu, Syu, shyU, cyuu, gyuu, Tyuu, bhyuu,  etc.
>  are processed only in New Lipi. How can we ask the preprocessor to get old
>  lipi in these cases?
>

>  2. R (or L) + a double consonant +  u(U) such as
>  Rkku, Rjju, Rnnu, TppU, Lkku, Ljju, LTTu, LTTuu, Lkkuu,  etc
>  produce only the New lipi, but the problem can be solved if we
>  use a "{}" after the R/L  as in
>  R{}kku, R{}jju, L{}TTu, and so on.
>

Cool! I'm also using this workaround. It occurs with all the chillu's.

Regards
Alex.
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Ashok Kumar Singh | 13 May 2008 12:34
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Hi

  I want to make some notes using latex. how can i make venn diagrams?
can anyone help.
Thanks
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Nina Mazumdar | 14 May 2008 09:57
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Re: Hi

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Ashok Kumar Singh
<kumar_ashoksingh@...> wrote:
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>   I want to make some notes using latex. how can i make venn diagrams?
> can anyone help.

PSTricks should be of much help to you with venn diagrams.  Please
take a look at:

  http://sarovar.org/projects/pstricks

particularly chapter 8, page 12 should be interesting to you.

Best regards

Nina
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sudheer | 14 May 2008 12:47
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Dear All,
hai. I am new LATEX user. I am in dilema whether LATEX will be easy or word 
will be easy for formatting.
Can any one of you please resolve my confusion?
Thanking you
with regards
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Nina Mazumdar | 14 May 2008 13:59
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On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:17 PM, sudheer <sudheer108@...> wrote:
> Dear All,
> hai. I am new LATEX user. I am in dilema whether LATEX will be easy or word
> will be easy for formatting.
> Can any one of you please resolve my confusion?

Depends on many factors like what you want to accomplish with your
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If you are an author who wants to concentrate on writing without
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