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Rene Rebe | 1 Feb 2005 21:18
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[ANNOUNCE] DietlibC target


Hi,

my exams period nearly finished (that is only some System Programming 
thing left where I should not need to do anything for - since it consist 
of bash, sed, awk scripting and poor man's C ...).

I had to notice our dietlibc target does not build and all and the 
dietlibc package implementation is quite messy.

I intend to redo it over the next weeks ...

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Rene Rebe | 1 Feb 2005 21:22
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Re: [RFC] udev as default in 2.1.0 ?


Hi,

Alejandro Mery wrote:

> (yes, i'm finally back :-)

Which is very good! ;-)

>> considering devfs is in EOL (end of life) state for some time now and 
>> udev is (beside my initial suspision) far superior (I have it on my 
>> iBook since my article in November as /udev and switched to exclusive 
>> /dev populated by udev today - resisting on a tmpfs):
>>
>>   Should we ship 2.1.0 with udev enabled by default?
> 
> 
> i love devfs, but sadly it's just dead. but i'm worried about out
> current 2.4/2.6 intercompatibility.
> 
> currently we use exactly the same configuration for 2.4 and 2.6 some
> work must be done to split linux config.

Oh yes. A good argument to leave it as it is for 2.1 - and just improve 
the integration so that switching to udev for people using 2.6 is just 
flipping one option in stone or so ...

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Rene Rebe | 1 Feb 2005 21:30
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T2 based mini distribution for the Psion Revo (and 5mx)


Hi all,

as I announced previously I'm creating a more size optimized replacement 
for the (unmaintained?) revol distribution for the Psion Revo.

The T2 System Development Environment (SDE) - a ROCK Linux successor - 
will be used to automatically build the toolchain and packages. I plan 
to utilize dietlibc. GCC is of course the latest available - currently 
3.4.3.

I also hope to use squashfs, since my previous tests showed a further 
size decrease, however the kernel was not able to load the image. I hope 
to track this down.

I'll most probalby have the new image at the end of the weekend - other 
people are of course invited to contribute ... ;-)

http://www.t2-project.org/

Althought it is not my primary target, the image should be usable on the 
Series 5, too. Interested people will also be able to build a lot more 
packages into such images.

Sincerely yours,

   René Rebe

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edward.robbins | 1 Feb 2005 21:42
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RE: [Linux-7110-psion] T2 based mini distribution for the Psion Revo (and 5mx)

Sounds good. Is this for the Revo as well as the Revo plus? It has occured
to me that there is no reason why we cant get a usable PDA Linux system into
at least the Revo Plus - the agenda vr3 has only 16Mb flash. We really, I
guess, only have 8Mb to work with (8Mb ramdisk - 8mb ram - if only we had
a flash rom!).

Regards,

Ed.

>-- Original Message --
>From: Rene Rebe <rene <at> exactcode.de>
>To: linux-7110-psion <at> lists.sourceforge.net,
>	t2 developers mailing list <t2 <at> exactcode.de>
>Subject: [Linux-7110-psion] T2 based mini distribution for the Psion Revo
>(and 5mx)
>Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 21:30:11 +0100
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>as I announced previously I'm creating a more size optimized replacement
>
>for the (unmaintained?) revol distribution for the Psion Revo.
>
>The T2 System Development Environment (SDE) - a ROCK Linux successor - 
>will be used to automatically build the toolchain and packages. I plan 
>to utilize dietlibc. GCC is of course the latest available - currently 
>3.4.3.
>
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Rene Rebe | 1 Feb 2005 22:00
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Re: [Linux-7110-psion] T2 based mini distribution for the Psion Revo (and 5mx)


Hi,

edward.robbins <at> tinyworld.co.uk wrote:

> Sounds good. Is this for the Revo as well as the Revo plus? It has occured
> to me that there is no reason why we cant get a usable PDA Linux system into
> at least the Revo Plus - the agenda vr3 has only 16Mb flash. We really, I
> guess, only have 8Mb to work with (8Mb ramdisk - 8mb ram - if only we had
> a flash rom!).

Ah yes, sorry. Revo Plus here ;-)

Using T2 just defining 3 sets of packages (Revo, Revo+, 5*) and building 
them into images is exactly where T2 helps.

Btw. Do you need picogui? I never found much use for it in revol ... 
Maybe it is not worth the space and better place more usable console 
software on it ;-)

What do you think?

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edward.robbins | 1 Feb 2005 22:13
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Re: [Linux-7110-psion] T2 based mini distribution for the Psion Revo (and 5mx)

I personally wouldnt put picogui on...its a good windowing system and it
can be nice to use a terminal window, but other than that I dont think there
are enough applications for it to really be usable.

Ed.

>-- Original Message --
>From: Rene Rebe <rene <at> exactcode.de>
>To: edward.robbins <at> tinyworld.co.uk
>Cc: linux-7110-psion <at> lists.sourceforge.net,
>	t2 developers mailing list <t2 <at> exactcode.de>
>Subject: Re: [Linux-7110-psion] T2 based mini distribution for the Psion
>Revo
> (and 5mx)
>Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 22:00:26 +0100
>
>
>Hi,
>
>edward.robbins <at> tinyworld.co.uk wrote:
>
>> Sounds good. Is this for the Revo as well as the Revo plus? It has occured
>> to me that there is no reason why we cant get a usable PDA Linux system
>into
>> at least the Revo Plus - the agenda vr3 has only 16Mb flash. We really,
>I
>> guess, only have 8Mb to work with (8Mb ramdisk - 8mb ram - if only we
had
>> a flash rom!).
>
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Rene Rebe | 1 Feb 2005 22:21
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Re: swap is never used on ultrasparc64/32 - 2.6.11-rc2


Hi,

David S. Miller wrote:

> Give this patch a try.  It should make sparc64 gcc-3.4 builds
> work just fine.  I just sanity booted this change with a
> gcc-3.3 build.  I'll also need to put this fix into 2.4.x as
> well as the sparc64 atomic code is identical there.
> 
> I'm very pleased that we tracked this problem down to the
> true root cause.  Thanks everyone.

Looks promissing:

Linux version 2.6.11-rc2 (root <at> sunrise) (gcc version 3.4.3) #8 Tue Feb 1 
22:14:10 CET 2005

Mapped:           7400 kB

# ./malloc

[1]+  Stopped                 chroot /home/root64/
root <at> sunrise:~# bg
[1]+ chroot /home/root64/ &
root <at> sunrise:~# free
              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        383704      73224     310480          0        504       4272
-/+ buffers/cache:      68448     315256
Swap:       438240      61560     376680
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Rene Rebe | 1 Feb 2005 22:27
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Re: 2.1.0-beta3 (up to -final) release schedule


Hi,

Juergen "George" Sawinski wrote:

>> -beta3: 16.01.
>> -beta4: 13.02.
>> -final: 27.03.

well - beta3 is a bit late - but already tagged, x86 built and powerpc 
still building (me kicking the slow IBM RS/6k to build faster).

Do you think it is worth to get 2.1.0 out faster (maybe with 2 and a 
half issues not as polished) to have 2.1.0 ready for the CeBIT when we 
get a place at the Linux New Media AG's OpenBooth? (still unconfirmed ...)

Yours,

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Nix | 1 Feb 2005 22:27
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Re: swap is never used on ultrasparc64/32 - 2.6.11-rc2


On Tue, 01 Feb 2005, Rene Rebe confirmed:
> David S. Miller wrote:
> 
>> Give this patch a try.  It should make sparc64 gcc-3.4 builds
>> work just fine.  I just sanity booted this change with a
>> gcc-3.3 build.  I'll also need to put this fix into 2.4.x as
>> well as the sparc64 atomic code is identical there.
>> I'm very pleased that we tracked this problem down to the
>> true root cause.  Thanks everyone.
> 
> Looks promissing:

It appears to work here, too.

Thank you!

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Alejandro Mery | 1 Feb 2005 23:17
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Re: 2.1.0-beta3 (up to -final) release schedule


Rene Rebe wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Juergen "George" Sawinski wrote:
> 
>>> -beta3: 16.01.
>>> -beta4: 13.02.
>>> -final: 27.03.
> 
> 
> well - beta3 is a bit late - but already tagged, x86 built and powerpc 
> still building (me kicking the slow IBM RS/6k to build faster).
> 
> Do you think it is worth to get 2.1.0 out faster (maybe with 2 and a 
> half issues not as polished) to have 2.1.0 ready for the CeBIT when we 
> get a place at the Linux New Media AG's OpenBooth? (still unconfirmed ...)

when is CeBIT? -rc1?

Alejandro
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