Dan | 1 Apr 2011 01:12

Re: Installing the internal Emate memory expansion

I was afraid of that.  I don't recall Franks post about it offhand but
the flashing light and beeping indicated a fault to me.  :/  Now the
question is to return it (bought it on ebay with a 30 day warranty) or
see if it can be fixed.....

I never had a emate with the module, does it really make much of a
difference?  I know heap would be increased and make it easier for large
heap using applications such as web surfing, although I am not
interested in doing so at this point.

-Dan

On 3/31/2011 6:12 PM, Smith Woody wrote:
> Frank Gruendel has noted in previous posts that the NewerTech cards  
> are susceptible to solder joint failure.
> If he is still repairing them his price is reasonable and shipping  
> costs are reasonable.
> 
> Woody
> 
> 
> On Mar 31, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Dan wrote:
> 
>> Hmm, when I install the card and apply power (via battery pack) I  
>> hear a
>> soft beep beep......beep beep. And the screen backlight flashing with
>> each beep.  Take out the battery/power, unplug the memory expansion,
>> apply power and all is well.
>>
>> I assume this means that the card is dead and not passing a  
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sir izaac | 1 Apr 2011 04:13
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Re: The Stanford Newton User Group


Clu drclu at swbell.net 
Wed Mar 2 21:19:33 EST 2011
How many meet?
Usually 3 or 4.
Do you have a web feed of the meeting?
Sadly, not yet. I'd like to try a live broadcast of our meetings sometime though (-:
On Mar 1, 2011, at 2:28 AM, sir izaac wrote:

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Lord Groundhog | 1 Apr 2011 09:44
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Re: HWR and the Art of Thinking

~~~ On 2011/04/01 00:23, Lloyd Conway at ssgconway <at> juno.com wrote ~~~

>     What attracted me to the story was the intuitive sense it made to me.  I
> was a prolific writer with Bic 1.0, but I have always found typing to be
> laborious, at best.  I never have the feeling of putting thoughts down
> naturally with a keyboard as I do with a pen or stylus.  (I used to own
> fountain pens, BTW, but haven't had one in several years.) It's just more
> natural, and I suspect that has something to do with the brain stimulation
> credited to the act of writing.
>       At any event, I thought that this audience would find the piece to
> be...stimulating.
> Regards,
> -Lloyd Conway
>   Charlotte, Michigan
> 
> ... There's also a lot of research that positively links the development
> of motor skills and cognitive ability.  See
> http://myapplenewton.blogspot.com/2010/06/psychology-of-handwriting.html
> 
> But sadly educators are thinking that handwriting is being replaced by
> keyboards and so they are forecasting a day when they will no longer teach it.
> Of course that just accelerates the trend.  And the children are robbed.
> ...
> ButRe:RE: HWR and the Art of Thinking we Newton users know that is so much
> more than that."
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Tony Kan

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Smith Woody | 1 Apr 2011 16:17

Re: Installing the internal Emate memory expansion

Make sure it is a memory expansion module.  I have seen ROM boards  
offered as emate memory.
It should have either Newertech or Microtech one it and it will look  
different than the ROM board.

You have been getting along without it but the  memory upgrade not  
only increases heap but also doubles storage memory.  If you are going  
to use the emate with an ethernet card, yu will find it useful.

Woody

On Mar 31, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Dan wrote:

> I was afraid of that.  I don't recall Franks post about it offhand but
> the flashing light and beeping indicated a fault to me.  :/  Now the
> question is to return it (bought it on ebay with a 30 day warranty) or
> see if it can be fixed.....
>
> I never had a emate with the module, does it really make much of a
> difference?  I know heap would be increased and make it easier for  
> large
> heap using applications such as web surfing, although I am not
> interested in doing so at this point.
>
>

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Forrest | 1 Apr 2011 19:36
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Re: HWR and the Art of Thinking

Lloyd:

I, for one, am glad that you did. Many times I considered purchasing one of the small "notebook diaries" that
were discussed...only to realize that I already have something far better...my Newton!
The article gave me a idea on another way to put my Newton to good use...as suggested, each night I'd like to
write down the "thoughts and events of the day"...again as suggested, a good way to clear one's mind,
perhaps. From there could come a wealth of ideas to write more about and expand upon.

Thanks,
--Forrest 

Sent from my AT&T iPhone 4

On Mar 31, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Lloyd Conway <ssgconway <at> juno.com> wrote:

>    Thanks to all who responded to my post.  While I expect that the website, which I found through a link from
another website which referenced the article, is selling stuff, most websites are.  (Gopher is
commercial-free, and that's one of the reasons that I enjoy visiting Gopherspace from time to time: 
Information without graphics, commercials, etc.  It is refreshing, even if little used.)
>    What attracted me to the story was the intuitive sense it made to me.  I was a prolific writer with Bic 1.0, but
I have always found typing to be laborious, at best.  I never have the feeling of putting thoughts down
naturally with a keyboard as I do with a pen or stylus.  (I used to own fountain pens, BTW, but haven't had one
in several years.) It's just more natural, and I suspect that has something to do with the brain
stimulation credited to the act of writing.
>      At any event, I thought that this audience would find the piece to be...stimulating.
> Regards,
> -Lloyd Conway
>  Charlotte, Michigan
> 
> "The site is marketing products but they are right about the research.  It does
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Dan | 1 Apr 2011 23:58

Re: Installing the internal Emate memory expansion

Hmm I thought the memory module was a different shape and wouldn't fit
into the same slot (but I never had one to compare it to).

This module doesn't say Newertech or Microtech.  All that is on it is
WWEI 2MV 94V-0   970  And two chips named Mu1 and MU4.  It doesn't say
apple on it either other than on the  2 chips (and their part numbers).
 Is this a memory module or a ROM module?

-Dan

On 4/1/2011 10:17 AM, Smith Woody wrote:
> Make sure it is a memory expansion module.  I have seen ROM boards  
> offered as emate memory.
> It should have either Newertech or Microtech one it and it will look  
> different than the ROM board.
> 
> You have been getting along without it but the  memory upgrade not  
> only increases heap but also doubles storage memory.  If you are going  
> to use the emate with an ethernet card, yu will find it useful.
> 
> Woody
> 
> 
> On Mar 31, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Dan wrote:
> 
>> I was afraid of that.  I don't recall Franks post about it offhand but
>> the flashing light and beeping indicated a fault to me.  :/  Now the
>> question is to return it (bought it on ebay with a 30 day warranty) or
>> see if it can be fixed.....
>>
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Tony Kan | 2 Apr 2011 04:57
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Re: HWR and the Art of Thinking

Hi Lloyd

Just found that article I was thinking of  when I was writing about the Fitaly
Keyboard (http://myapplenewton.blogspot.com/2008/12/fitaly-keyboard.html):

A Washington Post article ("The Handwriting is on the Wall," 11 October 2006:
http://tinyurl.com/khzzm) noted that there were many benefits to learning and
using cursive handwriting:

* Good handwriting skills learnt at a young age improves the students ability to
articulate their thoughts. Children without handwriting skills produce simpler,
shorter, less nuanced compositions.

* Examiners give lower grades to papers when the text is less legible.

* Socially, readers are more likely to emotionally connect with the writer.

Cheers

Tony Kan

Christchurch
New Zealand

[snip]
      At any event, I thought that this audience would find the piece to
be...stimulating.
Regards,
-Lloyd Conway
  Charlotte, Michigan
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arceeHS | 2 Apr 2011 05:43
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Re: Installing the internal Emate memory expansion

Dan, by your description that is not a memory module. It will snap into the
memory slot but it just isn't what you are wanting.

Two quick visual verifications - 1. Does it look just like the card in the
left slot?; 2. Does it overhang the battery?

arceeHS

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Dan <dan <at> dbdigitalweb.com> wrote:

> Hmm I thought the memory module was a different shape and wouldn't fit
> into the same slot (but I never had one to compare it to).
>
> This module doesn't say Newertech or Microtech.  All that is on it is
> WWEI 2MV 94V-0   970  And two chips named Mu1 and MU4.  It doesn't say
> apple on it either other than on the  2 chips (and their part numbers).
>  Is this a memory module or a ROM module?
>
> -Dan
>
> On 4/1/2011 10:17 AM, Smith Woody wrote:
> > Make sure it is a memory expansion module.  I have seen ROM boards
> > offered as emate memory.
> > It should have either Newertech or Microtech one it and it will look
> > different than the ROM board.
> >
> > You have been getting along without it but the  memory upgrade not
> > only increases heap but also doubles storage memory.  If you are going
> > to use the emate with an ethernet card, yu will find it useful.
> >
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Sonny Hung | 2 Apr 2011 06:03
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Re: Installing the internal Emate memory expansion

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Dan <dan <at> dbdigitalweb.com> wrote:

> Hmm I thought the memory module was a different shape and wouldn't fit
> into the same slot (but I never had one to compare it to)

Here is a photo of the NewerTech eMate 300 memory module.
http://replay.waybackmachine.org/19970707055216im_/http://www.newerram.com/prodpict/emateram.gif

I happen to find one in my desk at the office but I'm unsure if it works but
if I recall correctly Frank said they may need resoldering...
HTH :D

Sonny

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Dan | 2 Apr 2011 06:40

Re: Installing the internal Emate memory expansion

I had a feeling this was the case after Woody's first comment.  And yes
it looks very much like the card that is in the left slot and 2 it does
overhang the battery slightly (which I thought odd when I first
installed it).

-Dan

On 4/1/2011 11:43 PM, arceeHS wrote:
> Dan, by your description that is not a memory module. It will snap into the
> memory slot but it just isn't what you are wanting.
> 
> Two quick visual verifications - 1. Does it look just like the card in the
> left slot?; 2. Does it overhang the battery?
> 
> arceeHS
> 
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Dan <dan <at> dbdigitalweb.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hmm I thought the memory module was a different shape and wouldn't fit
>> into the same slot (but I never had one to compare it to).
>>
>> This module doesn't say Newertech or Microtech.  All that is on it is
>> WWEI 2MV 94V-0   970  And two chips named Mu1 and MU4.  It doesn't say
>> apple on it either other than on the  2 chips (and their part numbers).
>>  Is this a memory module or a ROM module?
>>
>> -Dan

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