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Mark Harter | 1 Jul 2007 03:52
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Re: iPhone

It is indeed an impressive device. I will be getting mine at the  
sometime in july.

On Jun 30, 2007, at 1:13 PM, L.W. Brown wrote:

> I 4th it! (Rhymes w/ jul-Y 4th, don't it?)
> The only hitch I had was iTunes (after an update) - something in my
> setup would not let it talk w/ the iPhone, so I had to login with all
> "extensions" off - then PERFETTO. So, the problem was (as is often
> the case) some unknown 3d-party software...
> I only had to wait abut an hour or hour-15 - very small street-front
> Apple mini-store not too far from two full-size (well-known) stores
> in big malls. But, I think you can now call around for availability.
>
> On 30. Jun, 2007, at 12:29, Steven Frank wrote:
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>> Thirded!
>>
>> On Jun 30, 2007, at 9:19 AM, Scott Hoffman wrote:
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>>> I second that - I waited in line for about eight hours to get my
>>> 8GB model - everything ran without a hitch.
>>>
>>> On 6/29/07 11:03 PM, "Thomas Brand (T2)" <thomasbrand <at> mac.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Speaking of lagging behind, oh boy do you guys have to get an  
>>>> iPhone
>>>> it is like a Newton wet dream.
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kevin_ondre@vermontel.net | 1 Jul 2007 03:58

Re: iPhone

AT&T doesnt provide service in my area.  so...no iphone for me :(

oh well, I can keep my 600$ and the 60$ monthly fee cripe, thats one
expensive unit.

Kevin

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From: Mark Harter willmark <at> mac.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:52:56 -0400
To: newtontalk <at> newtontalk.net
Subject: Re: [NTLK] iPhone

It is indeed an impressive device. I will be getting mine at the  
sometime in july.

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Matt Howe | 1 Jul 2007 04:19
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Disk image

Does anyone have a good copy of NewtDevel-HFSimage.zip? All of the ones I
have found so far have a bad CRC. I've downloaded two so far. I am
downloading a third but I have little hope for it. It appears the one on
UNNA and all of the mirrors is corrupt. I have BasiliskII loaded and running
and I'm trying to get NTK running on it. Big learning curve. But who knows,
I might like it and chuck out my Dell for a Mac. But I'll never know if I
can't get a good copy of NewtDevel-HFSimage.zip.

Matt (Ducky) Howe
Owner of a MP2000U and an Emate
mhowe <at> gfn.org (Newton)
http://santa-duck.dyndns.org (Newton server)
matthowe <at> comcast.net (Desktop)
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mhowe41/

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MP0werd | 1 Jul 2007 05:51
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Trouble using Escelade for AppleTalk over Airport

I have a laptop running OS X 10.3.9 and Escalade on wireless. My Newton 
is using an Orinoco Silver card with the WaveLAN drivers it came with 
(thank goodness the person bootstrapped it before selling it to me). I 
can use Courier. However, Docking with Escalade over Appletalk doesn't 
work, and I need to do that in order to install the TCP dock component.

Examining the traffic with another computer sniffing wireless with 
tcpdump, I can see:

First, the Newton picks a random appletalk address (this time 255.0.44) 
and uses AARP to check if it's in use. It isn't, so the Newton hears no 
response and assumes that address.

Next it does an AppleTalk name request for Docker.*

The computer running Escalade apparently notices that and does an AARP 
request for 255.0.44's MAC address.

The Newton replies with it's MAC address

10: The computer running Escalade does an AARP request for 255.0.44's 
MAC address again

The Newton replies with it's MAC address again

Goto 10

Running a sniffer on the computer running Escalade shows that it's 
Recieving the AppleTalk traffic... so I'm not sure what to say.... I 
can only conclude that OS 10.3.x's AppleTalk support is really bad.
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Steven Frank | 1 Jul 2007 06:00
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Re: Disk image

On Jun 30, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Matt Howe wrote:

> Does anyone have a good copy of NewtDevel-HFSimage.zip? All of the  
> ones I
> have found so far have a bad CRC.

I have one that seems to extract OK, into a .dsk file, whatever that  
is.  Where'd you like me to send it?

Steven
http://panic.com/
http://stevenf.com/

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Larry Yaeger | 1 Jul 2007 06:23
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Re: iPhone

At 9:58 PM -0400 6/30/07, kevin_ondre <at> vermontel.net wrote:
>AT&T doesnt provide service in my area.  so...no iphone for me :(

Yeah, I'm in the same boat and seriously bummed about it.  I would *so* have an iPhone if I could actually use
it.  Annoyingly, Verizon has four bars here, while Cingular/AT&T has zero, but because the signals are
different (CDMA vs. GSM) the phone can't even roam here.  Bleah.  :(

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Woody Smith | 1 Jul 2007 07:09
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Re: Trouble using Escelade for AppleTalk over Airport

I am not familiar with Escalade, but if you are looking for Dock TCP/ 
IP see
<http://www.kallisys.com/newton/dcl/>
I could not download this with Courier but did successfully download  
it directly to my Newton with Newt'sCape.

Woody

On Jun 30, 2007, at 10:51 PM, MP0werd wrote:

> I have a laptop running OS X 10.3.9 and Escalade on wireless. My  
> Newton
> is using an Orinoco Silver card with the WaveLAN drivers it came with
> (thank goodness the person bootstrapped it before selling it to me). I
> can use Courier. However, Docking with Escalade over Appletalk doesn't
> work, and I need to do that in order to install the TCP dock  
> component.

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Matt Howe | 1 Jul 2007 07:19
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Re: Disk image

Is there a place you can post it? If not I have access to my work ftp but it
will take me a bit to get it setup.

Matt (Ducky) Howe
Owner of a MP2000U and an Emate
mhowe <at> gfn.org (Newton)
http://santa-duck.dyndns.org (Newton server)
matthowe <at> comcast.net (Desktop)
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mhowe41/

Steven Frank wrote:
I have one that seems to extract OK, into a .dsk file, whatever that
is.  Where'd you like me to send it?

Steven
http://panic.com/
http://stevenf.com/

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Steven Frank | 1 Jul 2007 08:23
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Re: Disk image

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On Jun 30, 2007, at 10:19 PM, Matt Howe wrote:

> Is there a place you can post it? If not I have access to my work  
> ftp but it
> will take me a bit to get it setup.

Hi Matt,

Try this:

http://stevenf.com/downloads/NewtDevel-HFSimage.zip

Steven
http://panic.com/
http://stevenf.com/

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Jon Glass | 1 Jul 2007 08:28
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Re: ForWord data entry system

On 6/29/07, Joel M. Sciamma <joel <at> inventors-emporium.co.uk> wrote:
> I was reading the latest column by Bob Cringely and he has a pointer
> to a data entry system named ForWord which looks very clever:
> <http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2007/pulpit_20070622_002278.html>
> <http://www.forwordinput.com/>
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> He suggests that this input method might be adopted by the iPhone at
> some time in the future.
>
> This would also work on the Newt but it does involve displaying a
> keyboard on the screen stealing space that HWR does not do.

What's really odd about this concept, is that I had thought of just
this very thing watching Pogue's video. I suspect that the iPhone
actually works in a manner similar to this under the surface, so to
speak.

In relation to the Newton, I bet it could be used with the built-in
keyboard, so as to not take up too much space.

However, there is a problem with this. I don't know about you guys,
but I type 50+ wpm, and when I'm forced to "peck" with one or two
fingers, or worse, use the built-in Newton keyboard (or the onscreen
Palm keyboard) I can't find the keys! I don't _really_ know where the
keys are consciously--it's all automatic now, so I would still be
forced to "learn" a new way of text entry! However, I've learned
QWERTY, the Newton HWR, Gesture Mosaic (long ago forgotten), the
Polish QWERTZ, and Graffiti, so I suppose one more can't hurt me! ;-)

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