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Dragan Jankov | 2 Oct 2006 02:34
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RE: stop

fuck off asole!!!

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Solar Designer | 2 Oct 2006 03:58
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pre-moderation

Hi,

It seems that it's time to switch this mailing list to be pre-moderated
even for subscribers.

Any volunteers to help moderate postings?  At this point, I am the only
moderator - so legitimate postings will be getting delayed quite a bit.

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websiteaccess | 2 Oct 2006 18:50
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JTR and os X macintel

Hi,

 I have now a Macintel (Apple, Intel core 2 duo) with os X (10.4.8), 2 
gigas RAM.

 Some month ago Alex told to me to compile the unix source of JTR with 
the command:
 "make macosx-x86-mmx".

 After test (./john -test) return me: 
Many salts : 923827 c/s real, 925678 c/s virtual
Only one salt: 842176 c/s real, 840495 c/s virtual

 Now, I have compiled the same source with the command :
"make macosx-x86-sse2"
now test return me :

Benchmarking: Traditional DES [128/128 BS SSE2]... DONE
Many salts:     1841K c/s real, 1845K c/s virtual
Only one salt:  1532K c/s real, 1535K c/s virtual

Benchmarking: BSDI DES (x725) [128/128 BS SSE2]... DONE
Many salts:     60006 c/s real, 60006 c/s virtual
Only one salt:  58316 c/s real, 58316 c/s virtual

Benchmarking: FreeBSD MD5 [32/32]... DONE
Raw:    5943 c/s real, 5955 c/s virtual

Benchmarking: OpenBSD Blowfish (x32) [32/32]... DONE
Raw:    363 c/s real, 364 c/s virtual
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Les Humphrey | 2 Oct 2006 21:56

RE: JTR and os X macintel

Can anyone direct me to documentation for

"John for dummies"

I have a SUSE 10.1 Enterprise I am trying to use and seem to not get much
use out of it.  I guess I need documentation that I can understand. 

Les Humphrey
Computer Service Tech 

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Subject: [john-users] JTR and os X macintel

Hi,
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-.-PhanTom-.- | 3 Oct 2006 21:03

Re: JTR and os X macintel

Nice speeds :)

I am curious as to wether they are caused by the CPU alone 
(default speed I assume...) or also the OS..... Solar?
I was under the impression that the high speeds on Macs were due to the 
G4 and G5 cpus and that the OS had very little to do with it...?

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Solar Designer | 5 Oct 2006 03:44
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Re: JTR and os X macintel

On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 06:50:41PM +0200, websiteaccess wrote:
>  I have now a Macintel (Apple, Intel core 2 duo) with os X (10.4.8), 2 
> gigas RAM.

That's nice.  And, by the way, your RAM size does not matter. ;-)

What CPU clock rate?

>  Some month ago Alex told to me to compile the unix source of JTR with 
> the command:
>  "make macosx-x86-mmx".

That's correct.  The "-sse2" target did not exist at the time.

>  Now, I have compiled the same source with the command :
> "make macosx-x86-sse2"
> now test return me :
> 
> Benchmarking: Traditional DES [128/128 BS SSE2]... DONE
> Many salts:     1841K c/s real, 1845K c/s virtual
> Only one salt:  1532K c/s real, 1535K c/s virtual

That's really good performance - it looks like we have a new leader at
DES-based crypt(3).

> Is there others commands for compiling JTR'source and get better 
> performance ?

Currently, no.  (Well, you might be able to achieve minor speedups by
tweaking compiler flags.)
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Solar Designer | 5 Oct 2006 04:03
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John for dummies

Les (and others) -

Whenever you post something on a new topic, please be sure to post it as
an entirely new message - _not_ by hitting "Reply" on someone else's
posting.  Please also make sure to set a descriptive message Subject,
and do not quote context that is not related to your postings.

On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 02:56:11PM -0500, Les Humphrey wrote:
> Can anyone direct me to documentation for
> 
> "John for dummies"
> 
> I have a SUSE 10.1 Enterprise I am trying to use and seem to not get much
> use out of it.  I guess I need documentation that I can understand.

I'm afraid that there's currently no John documentation "for dummies",
although I think that parts of the official documentation are getting
quite close:

	http://www.openwall.com/john/doc/
	http://www.openwall.com/john/doc/INSTALL.shtml
	http://www.openwall.com/john/doc/EXAMPLES.shtml

What is it that you're experiencing problems with?  Compiling from
source?  Obtaining a copy of your password file?  Running John?

As an option, you may consider purchasing JtR Pro for Linux:

	http://www.openwall.com/john/pro/
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Solar Designer | 5 Oct 2006 04:21
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Re: Re: JTR and os X macintel

Dear Phantom -

Not providing any context is almost as bad as providing too much or
irrelevant context.  Please do include a few lines of relevant context
on your postings, except when you're starting a new topic.

Speaking of the benchmark results posted by "websiteaccess":

Benchmarking: Traditional DES [128/128 BS SSE2]... DONE
Many salts:	1841K c/s real, 1845K c/s virtual
Only one salt:	1532K c/s real, 1535K c/s virtual

On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 07:03:23PM +0000, -. -PhanTom-. - wrote:
> Nice speeds :)
> 
> I am curious as to wether they are caused by the CPU alone 
> (default speed I assume...) or also the OS..... Solar?

This excellent performance is due to the CPU alone.

However, the appropriate development tools have to be available (either
bundled with the OS or installed separately) in order to compile JtR
from source.  Also, for "-sse2" builds, the OS kernel has to be aware of
SSE (to save and restore SSE registers on context switches), so, for
example, those builds won't work on Linux 2.2 or older kernels (without
patches) even if the CPU supports SSE2.

> I was under the impression that the high speeds on Macs were due to the 
> G4 and G5 cpus and that the OS had very little to do with it...?
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larry trinidad | 5 Oct 2006 06:45
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RE: John for dummies

So, John the Ripper will not work on Windows?  Thanks.

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> To: john-users <at> lists.openwall.com
> Subject: [john-users] John for dummies
> 
> Les (and others) -
> 
> Whenever you post something on a new topic, please be sure to post it as
> an entirely new message - _not_ by hitting "Reply" on someone else's
> posting.  Please also make sure to set a descriptive message Subject,
> and do not quote context that is not related to your postings.
> 
> On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 02:56:11PM -0500, Les Humphrey wrote:
>> Can anyone direct me to documentation for
>> 
>> "John for dummies"
>> 
>> I have a SUSE 10.1 Enterprise I am trying to use and seem to not get
>> much
>> use out of it.  I guess I need documentation that I can understand.
> 
> I'm afraid that there's currently no John documentation "for dummies",
> although I think that parts of the official documentation are getting
> quite close:
> 
> 	http://www.openwall.com/john/doc/
> 	http://www.openwall.com/john/doc/INSTALL.shtml
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Solar Designer | 5 Oct 2006 07:16
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Re: John for dummies

Larry -

You've quoted too much context on your message.  Please try to quote
just whatever is relevant.

On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 08:45:18PM -0800, larry trinidad wrote:
> So, John the Ripper will not work on Windows?  Thanks.

The free version of John the Ripper will work on Windows - just use the
download link for "Windows - binaries" off the homepage:

	http://www.openwall.com/john/

It's just JtR Pro that is currently only available for Linux/x86:

	http://www.openwall.com/john/pro/

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