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w3sz | 2 Sep 10:10

xlinrad.deb file makes things simple to run

Hello, All,

I have tried to make getting started with Linrad even simpler.

I have made a file xlinrad.deb that you should be able to download and install using apt-get if you have one of
the forms of Debian, and then just type 'linrad' at the command prompt [or 'sudo linrad' if you are not root]
and the xwindows form of Linrad will start running.  There is no compiling, no worrying about directories
or symbolic links or anything.  Just follow the 4 steps below and you will be ready to run Linrad.

The xlinrad version I uploaded has my serial CAT interface to the FT1000MP included, as well as the user
window that allows you to offset the frequency sent to the FT1000MP to adjust for various LO frequencies of
your transverters.  If you don't want to use this extra stuff, just ignore it.  It should cause no problems
[if it does, let me know].  It also has the parallel port routines Leif wrote to control the WSE hardware.  It
also has the nice 'extras' package by  Pierre, ON5GN.  It also has a routine to mute the receiver if you type 'U'.

To use this you just need to:

1. Have Debian Linux of some variety on your system

2. Put the following line in your /etc/apt/sources.list file:

deb http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz/debs-xlinrad main contrib

3. Type apt-get update.  If you are not root, then you need to type 'sudo apt-get update'.

4. Type apt-get install xlinrad and type 'y' at the prompts.  If you are not root you need to type 'sudo apt-get
install xlinrad'.

When you see the command prompt again YOU ARE DONE INSTALLING and
READY TO PLAY.  Just type 'linrad' [or 'sudo linrad' if you are not root] and away you go...

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w3sz | 2 Sep 21:53

Re: xlinrad.deb file makes things simple to run

Hello, All,

I should have made two 'assumptions' clear in my post on xlinrad.deb.

1.  You need to have X-Windows installed and running and to be in the X environment to run xlinrad.

2.  You need to have a sound driver [ alsa, oss, etc] installed and running to run xlinrad.  If you are using
stock sound it will likely be running automatically.  If you are running oss you may need to start it manually.

Sorry for the lack of complete info on the first post, and

73,

Roger
W3SZ

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W3SZ
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w3sz | 3 Sep 06:13

warning on old versions of dttsp.deb and xlinrad.deb

Hello, all,

Don, AE5K, notified me of a problem that occurred when he used Synaptic to do a 'Complete Removal' of the code
for my dttsp.deb file this afternoon. When he did a complete removal, apt-get and synaptic 'broke'. It
turns out that the /var/lib/apt directory and its subdirectories got trashed by a 'complete removal' of
the dttsp.deb file. I never saw this problem here in testing, because I always did the 'standard' removal
using apt-get or synaptic. With a standard removal, there is no problem. With upgrading to a new version of
the file, there is no problem. But with a 'complete removal', bang!!

Thanks for the quick heads-up and excellent description of the problem, Don!!

If you have the current version of dttsp: dttsp-1.20060902-2 with a timestamp of 2042 on Sep 2 or later, or
the current version of xlinrad: xlinrad-1.0217-2 with a timestamp of 2049 Sep 2 or later, you should not be
affected by this problem. But I would still recommend that you at least do the apt-get update and apt get
install detailed below to make sure you really do have the newest version of the files.

The problem also exists for the xlinrad.deb file I uploaded, as I used the same generic postrm file [the one
that caused the problem] for that package as well. So I have written this as a common email to both the dttsp
and the xlinrad lists.

After Don contacted me about the problem this afternoon, I verified that it also existed here and have come
up with a simple solution, in the form of new .deb files. I tested the new .deb files here several times with
repeated installs and complete removals on both of my systems and I have had no problems. And Don was kind
enough to try the solution on his system as well, and it worked there also.

The solution just involves downloading a new version of the deb files, which I uploaded this evening
[timestamp 20:42 for dttsp and 20:49 for xlinrad] Sept 2. Installing the new version with either apt-get
or Synaptic will overwrite the bad file and solve the problem. The current GOOD versions of these files,
which do NOT have the problem, are:
dttsp-1.20060902-2 20:42 Sep 2 2006

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w3sz | 3 Sep 16:04

xlinrad.deb webpage

Hi, All,

I have put a "Getting Started with Linrad for Linux the Easy Way" webpage on my website.

This basically guides you through installing the xlinrad.deb file, and also takes you through getting
xLinrad up and running once you have done that.

If you already have Linrad installed or prefer to do that manually, the section titled "3. Running Linrad
for the first time" may still be helpful.

This section repeats the steps detailed in the email I posted to this list previously, with a few enhancements.

The URL is:

http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz/xlinrad-deb.htm

Comments / criticisms welcome.

If you are already running Linrad or are a computer wizard, you likely won't find anything of value on the
page.  It is directed at people like me, who are mere mortals that don't work in a technical field and don't
have any training in computers but want to get started.  It is basically designed to keep other people from
having to re-invent the wheel and struggle through everything that I did in trying to get started having
fun with this great new DSP stuff.

Have fun!

73,

Roger Rehr
W3SZ

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Sergio | 5 Sep 10:49

Re: xlinrad.deb file makes things simple to run

Dear Roger,
being a Debianeer only I tried your package and it works like a charm, I 
still have to go in deep details but the package is alive and running.
This is on an old native sarge installation on a desktop machine but I 
also tried on a current testing version running on a laptop windows 
machine under vmware... just fine.

The only comment I would add to your procedure it is about the fact that 
it is very recommendable to install 'sudo' and thus become a 'sudoer' 
for linrad purposes.

I wasn't one of those and I initially got some troubles because simply 
typing linrad from superuser prompt would cause me an error in driving 
the screen interface, which is a very common one.  I knew what it was so 
I cutted it very short by installing sudo.  Very rookie suggestion but 
better than nothing I guess.

Best 73s,  Sergio IK2MMB

w3sz@... wrote:
> Hello, All,
> 
> I have tried to make getting started with Linrad even simpler.
> 
> I have made a file xlinrad.deb that you should be able to download and install using apt-get if you have one
of the forms of Debian, and then just type 'linrad' at the command prompt [or 'sudo linrad' if you are not
root] and the xwindows form of Linrad will start running.  There is no compiling, no worrying about
directories or symbolic links or anything.  Just follow the 4 steps below and you will be ready to run Linrad.
> 
> The xlinrad version I uploaded has my serial CAT interface to the FT1000MP included, as well as the user

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w3sz | 5 Sep 16:38

Re: xlinrad.deb file makes things simple to run

Hi, Sergio, 

Thanks for the kind note!  I am very glad things are working for you.  Enjoy 
Leif's great piece of software! 

The instructions did say: "Just type 'linrad' [linrad' [or 'sudo linrad' if 
you are not root]" 

I think what you are saying is that you forgot to say 'sudo' each time,and 
sudo only works for one command. 

You are right.  There is a better way.  If you type 'su' instead of sudo, 
that should ask you for password and then after you give it, allow you 
super-user privileges in that terminal window until you shut down that 
terminal window. 

I run everything as root and so I 'forget' all of this stuff until someone 
reminds me of it. 

I apologize for not giving the 'su' alternative.  I didn't try it, buy I 
think it should work fine.  If so, you would just need to enter 'su' and 
password at the beginning of your terminal session and then you would stay a 
super user. 

By the Way, Kubuntu works differently, I have read.  If you do 'sudo' it 
asks you for a password and then allows you to be super-user until the 
terminal window has been idle for some defined period of time. 

Thanks again, and Have Fun!

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Sergio | 6 Sep 12:18

Re: xlinrad.deb file makes things simple to run

Hello Roger,
very good.  As I said I wasn't a 'sudoer' (hi, it sounds like being a 
bit strange person, hey I am a sudoer now...what?) and I always access 
as a standard user. So just by typing su - and password and launching 
linrad one can still get stuck with the software being unable to drive 
the screen properly.  That can be solved by giving the proper rights of 
access to the screen but a rookie might have some problems to do it. 
That's why I  dropped the little suggestion to cut short and go for 
'sudo'. Surely if one starts the X session as root he/she won't even 
notice that.

Hey I am your user now, please keep the package updated... hihi just 
kidding of course, but I truly wish you'd like to do so in the future.
Great idea. Installing linrad now it is even easier than the windows 
version...

73s Sergio

w3sz wrote:
> Hi, Sergio,
> Thanks for the kind note!  I am very glad things are working for you.  
> Enjoy Leif's great piece of software!
> The instructions did say: "Just type 'linrad' [linrad' [or 'sudo linrad' 
> if you are not root]"
> I think what you are saying is that you forgot to say 'sudo' each 
> time,and sudo only works for one command.
> You are right.  There is a better way.  If you type 'su' instead of 
> sudo, that should ask you for password and then after you give it, allow 
> you super-user privileges in that terminal window until you shut down 
> that terminal window.

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w3sz | 6 Sep 18:12

Re: xlinrad.deb file makes things simple to run

Hi Sergio, 

Thanks for the note! 

OK, now I understand what you meant.  Sorry for being so dense here.  I boot 
directly into X-Windows so I never get a chance to ["never need to" is 
another way of saying this] tupe 'sudo' before typing 'startx'.  Linux is 
perfectly happy to boot directly into XWindows even for a regular user.  It 
is clear that different versions of linux behave differently, and I don't 
have enough experience to know what is 'usual' and what is 'unusual' in what 
I see here ;) 

Ubuntu Linux boots directly to XWindows environment even for a simple user.  
That is what it does in its standard form.  It won't even ALLOW root to log 
in directly to XWindows, although that is easy to change and I have done so 
here.  Here, when I boot directly into Ubuntu XWindows with a regular user 
account, I can start to run Linrad without doing sudo and I can even see all 
of the xwindows linrad screens OK without doing sudo.  But I don't get any 
spectrum or audio.  Running linrad as suggested, with 'sudo linrad' gives me 
the audio and everything runs fine. 

So for me not being sudo does not keep me out of X Windows, and it does not 
keep me out of the XWindows Linrad screens.  But not being sudo does prevent 
Linrad from working properly. 

In exploring all of this I did find out something interesting that would 
only affect those trying to run Linrad as multiple different users on the 
same machine.  This has nothing to do with whether you are running Linrad va 
the standard install from a tarball and then having compiled on your own 
machine or whether you used the debian archive to install it.  It is the

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w3sz | 14 Sep 02:30

changed repository address for xlinrad Debian Archive file

Hi, All, 

I have changed the structure of the Debian Archive Repository for the 
xlinrad file slightly.  This was done so that users can, using the same 
single line added to /etc/apt/sources.list: 

1.  download versions for multiple architectures as they become available
2.  download multiple programs in addition to Linrad [e.g. other dsp 
programs] 

The line that should be added to the /etc/apt/sources.list file on your 
computer is now: 

deb http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz/debs etch main non-free contrib 

All other instructions remain the same. 

73, 

Roger Rehr
W3SZ
http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz 

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Sergio | 15 Sep 09:29

Re: changed repository address for xlinrad Debian Archive file

Good stuff Roger, will update immediately.

Sergio MMB

w3sz wrote:
> Hi, All,
> I have changed the structure of the Debian Archive Repository for the 
> xlinrad file slightly.  This was done so that users can, using the same 
> single line added to /etc/apt/sources.list:
> 1.  download versions for multiple architectures as they become available
> 2.  download multiple programs in addition to Linrad [e.g. other dsp 
> programs]
> The line that should be added to the /etc/apt/sources.list file on your 
> computer is now:
> deb http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz/debs etch main non-free contrib
> All other instructions remain the same.
> 73,
> Roger Rehr
> W3SZ
> http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz
> 
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