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w3sz | 3 Aug 00:07
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Ubuntu and Linrad

Hello, All,

I am converting my last remaining RedHat Computer to another distro, as I need to install some 'new' files so
I can play with dttsp on that computer, and its too much of a pain to get these files installed and set up in a
very old [pre-Fedora] version of Red Hat Linux due to tye usual Linux dependency issues.  I HAVE gotten
dttsp etc to compile/run on another machine running Debian testing, but know that I lack most of the
pre-requisites on my RHL computer for the needed files.

SO I have decided to try the new flavor of Debian, Ubuntu.  I see that IS0KYB got Linrad working with this,
using ALSA.  I would probably be using ALSA to start, but then switching to OSS.

I have some questions for the group, understanding that since I can get Debian installed and running Linrad
in my sleep I should have no problem with this, but also understanding that 'should' and 'logic' both often
seem foreign to the free software Linux universe:

1.  Has anyone experienced any significant 'issues' installing Ubuntu and running Linrad?

2.  Has anyone other than Marco IS0KYB actually done this?

Thanks,

Roger Rehr
W3SZ

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John Harrison, NI1B | 3 Aug 01:12

Re: Ubuntu and Linrad


Hi Roger,

   I have xlinrad latest running on Knoppix 5.0.1 (also Debian based). 
Works fine :). FWIW - Knoppix 5.0.1-DVD is 10.1GB+ installed. But it is
ALL there. PCB, schematic, etc.  Also, I have gotten xlinrad to run using
a remote X windows display :) i.e.- linrad running on one computer but the
display is on a remote box.

   I will be interested to hear about your Ubuntu experience as I was
thinking of giving that dist. another try. You might also check out DSL
(damnsmalllinux) live CD for use as a remote X windows terminal. I have
had good luck picking up discarded computers and shoving DSL into the
CD-ROM slot. I hook up a network cable/wireless card and they 'just work'. 

   regards,
   john, ni1b

On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 w3sz@... wrote:

> Hello, All,
> 
> I am converting my last remaining RedHat Computer to another distro, as I need to install some 'new' files
so I can play with dttsp on that computer, and its too much of a pain to get these files installed and set up in a
very old [pre-Fedora] version of Red Hat Linux due to tye usual Linux dependency issues.  I HAVE gotten
dttsp etc to compile/run on another machine running Debian testing, but know that I lack most of the
pre-requisites on my RHL computer for the needed files.
> 
> SO I have decided to try the new flavor of Debian, Ubuntu.  I see that IS0KYB got Linrad working with this,
using ALSA.  I would probably be using ALSA to start, but then switching to OSS.
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Leif Asbrink | 3 Aug 01:35

Windows close D/A

Hello All,

There are still problems with Linrad under Windows.
The most frustrating one is that I can not find out
how to close the output device and then open it
again.

Currently the code (wsetad.c) is like this:

mmrs=waveOutReset(hwav_rxdaout);
if(mmrs != MMSYSERR_NOERROR)lirerr(25344);
for(i=0; i<NO_OF_RX_WAVEOUT; i++)
  {
  whdr=rxdaout_newbuf[i];
  while( (whdr[0].dwFlags&WHDR_INQUEUE) != 0)lir_sleep(3000);
  mmrs=waveOutUnprepareHeader(hwav_rxdaout, whdr, sizeof(WAVEHDR));
  if(mmrs != MMSYSERR_NOERROR)lirerr(25144);
  }
mmrs=waveOutClose(hwav_rxdaout);
if(mmrs != MMSYSERR_NOERROR)lirerr(25344);

From the Microsoft site I can not get any information
that suggests something to be wrong here. The open routine
that works fine on the initial open uses this code:
mmrs=waveOutPause(hwav_rxdaout);
if(mmrs != MMSYSERR_NOERROR)  lirerr(1238);
waveout_buf=malloc(NO_OF_RX_WAVEOUT*daout_block+fmt.nBlockAlign);
if(waveout_buf==NULL)goto wave_close;
wave_outhdr=malloc(NO_OF_RX_WAVEOUT*sizeof(WAVEHDR));
if(wave_outhdr==NULL)goto free_waveout;
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Leif Asbrink | 3 Aug 01:41

Re: Windows close D/A


Sorry, the previous mail was a mistake.

I just had to remove the pause statement:-)

Linrad seems to work fine under Windows now
and it will be possible to change no of channels
and 8/16 bits for the output in the next version.

73

Leif

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Leif Asbrink <leif@...> wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> There are still problems with Linrad under Windows.
> The most frustrating one is that I can not find out
> how to close the output device and then open it
> again.
> 
> Currently the code (wsetad.c) is like this:
> 
> mmrs=waveOutReset(hwav_rxdaout);
> if(mmrs != MMSYSERR_NOERROR)lirerr(25344);
> for(i=0; i<NO_OF_RX_WAVEOUT; i++)
>   {
>   whdr=rxdaout_newbuf[i];
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Pierre Vanhoucke | 3 Aug 07:45
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Re: Ubuntu and Linrad

Hi Roger,

Two months ago I installed Ubuntu 6.06 and xlinrad 2.14.

The Ubuntu installation was very straightforward and much simpler than with 
Suse.
To get all the required additional packages for xlinrad I  used the following 
commands:
apt-get install xorg-dev 
apt-get install gcc
apt-get install nasm
apt-get install make

Ubuntu 6.06 is using Xorg 7.0 and Alsa V1.0.10.rc3

The compilation of xlinrad went flawless.

The only problem I experienced was related to the shaky support by Alsa of  my 
onboard soundcard (HDA Intel ):
When the X key was  hit , most of the time it resulted in an error  message 
[1026] from lsetad.c
I din't use oss.

P.S. Do you plan to use dttsp with the WSE hardware?

73,

Pierre/ON5GN

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w3sz | 3 Aug 08:14
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Re: Ubuntu and Linrad

Hi, Pierre,

Thanks for the note!

I got it just after I sent my note to the list, having gotten things  
running.  Ubuntu was sure easy!

I am just using the stock ALSA so far, and havent noted any issues YET.   
But I haven't tried dual channel EME.

I don't get the 'x' error.

I am going to try dttsp with my sdr1000, just for grins to see if I can  
get it to work.  At this point the dttsp install is way harder than  
Linrad.  I got it to compile on debian, but it was not easy.  Linrad works  
better and installs easier.

I want to try dttsp install just because it is a bear ;)

Thanks again for the note, and

73,

Roger
W3SZ

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> Hi Roger,
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w3sz | 3 Aug 08:08
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Re: Ubuntu and Linrad

Hello, All,

Ubuntu installed painlessly except as noted below.  I downloaded a Ubuntu  
iso and made a CD.  After booting from that I just clicked on 'install'  
and it installed it on my hard drive.

Linrad works fine with Ubuntu [and did so right from the start].

There werea few interesting facets of Ubuntu installation:

1.  It will not let root sign in to the gnome login screen until you  
change the default parameters to permit this.
2.  It does not automatically activate the root user.  This must be done  
manually.
3.  If you do sign on as root by going thru a terminal mode signon and  
then create a new user, you won't be able to enter the gui [Gnome] as that  
user because the home directory was not created by that user, but by root  
and this breaks the rules.

So if you don't set up a second user on the initial install, because you  
are planning to just use root, you will be unhappy.

Also, Ubuntu does not come with 'make' installed!!! You need to install it  
via apt-get or synaptic.  You will want to broaden the repositories for  
these, too.  There is a nice 'unofficial Ubuntu guide' that has lots of  
good information.

Also, Ubuntu does not come with gcc installed.  Again, you need to get it  
with apt-get or synaptic.
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w3sz | 3 Aug 14:40
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removing knoppix files /instructions from web

Hello, All,

The Ubuntu Linrad installation is so problem-free that I think there is no  
need to maintain the Knoppix Linrad Live CD repository/ instructions that  
I had placed on the net anymore.

In fact, given that at this point the Knoppix version I used seems more  
problematic than Ubuntu, I think anyone who stumbled into those files  
might be himdered instaed of helped.

So I will plan to start deleting all of that stuff tomorrow unless someone  
has strong feelings otherwise.

73,

Roger Rehr
W3SZ

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W3SZ
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Robert McGwier | 3 Aug 19:14
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Re: Ubuntu and Linrad

Ubuntu and Linrad run seamlessly here.  I did not have to compile a 
single module.  I had to download some binaries.  The trick with Ubuntu 
is to use synaptic package manager and run setup and add the "not GPL" 
repositories,  multiverse, universe  (sub atomic particles?) 
repositories.  Synaptic is a breeze to drive.

Bob
N4HY

w3sz@... wrote:
> Hello, All,
>
> I am converting my last remaining RedHat Computer to another distro, as I need to install some 'new' files
so I can play with dttsp on that computer, and its too much of a pain to get these files installed and set up in a
very old [pre-Fedora] version of Red Hat Linux due to tye usual Linux dependency issues.  I HAVE gotten
dttsp etc to compile/run on another machine running Debian testing, but know that I lack most of the
pre-requisites on my RHL computer for the needed files.
>
> SO I have decided to try the new flavor of Debian, Ubuntu.  I see that IS0KYB got Linrad working with this,
using ALSA.  I would probably be using ALSA to start, but then switching to OSS.
>
> I have some questions for the group, understanding that since I can get Debian installed and running
Linrad in my sleep I should have no problem with this, but also understanding that 'should' and 'logic'
both often seem foreign to the free software Linux universe:
>
> 1.  Has anyone experienced any significant 'issues' installing Ubuntu and running Linrad?
>
> 2.  Has anyone other than Marco IS0KYB actually done this?
>
> Thanks,
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Robert McGwier | 3 Aug 19:16
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Re: Ubuntu and Linrad

w3sz wrote:
> Hello, All,
>
> Ubuntu installed painlessly except as noted below.  I downloaded a 
> Ubuntu iso and made a CD.  After booting from that I just clicked on 
> 'install' and it installed it on my hard drive.
>
> Linrad works fine with Ubuntu [and did so right from the start].
>
> There werea few interesting facets of Ubuntu installation:
>
> 1.  It will not let root sign in to the gnome login screen until you 
> change the default parameters to permit this.
> 2.  It does not automatically activate the root user.  This must be 
> done manually.

They much prefer you do things using sudo as opposed to having a root 
login.  The easiest way is to go into a shell (bash) and at the command 
line type

sudo bash

you will enter your password and you will get the usual

#

prompt.  This is much to be preferred for various reasons IMHO.

I then run
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