Gary Ruben | 13 Aug 16:25 2004
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Re: Re[2]: gplt and xplt

Biggles was the first Python plotting solution I tried to install but it was quite a while ago. I couldn't get
it working under Windows so it failed my cross-platform requirement. I haven't tried the more recent version.

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: Alan G Isaac <aisaac <at> american.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:38:45 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
To: SciPy Users List <scipy-user <at> scipy.net>
Subject: Re[2]: [SciPy-user] gplt and xplt

> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Gary Ruben apparently wrote:
> > I'd recommend you look (for mature cross platform packages
> > for Python) at gnuplot.py, Matplotlib and, if you need
> > certain plot types not supported by these, DISLIN (and
> > disipyl).
> 
> Just to note on the particular issue raised by Gary:
> gnuplot.py faces exactly the same problem as gplt but relies
> on the user to implement apprpriate delays.  What is unclear
> from the descriptions that I've read is whether this is a
> gnuplot problem or a problem with pipes under Windows.
> If the former, do the gnuplot developers know about it?
> 
> > I've mucked around with others but have rejected them for
> > one reason or other.
> 
> Can you summarize your experience with biggles?
>  http://biggles.sourceforge.net/
>  
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Gary Ruben | 13 Aug 16:52 2004
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Re: Re[2]: gplt and xplt

Alan,
just a comment on your other point -

> Just to note on the particular issue raised by Gary:
> gnuplot.py faces exactly the same problem as gplt but relies
> on the user to implement apprpriate delays.  What is unclear
> from the descriptions that I've read is whether this is a
> gnuplot problem or a problem with pipes under Windows.
> If the former, do the gnuplot developers know about it?

I always assumed this was a Windows pipe-system problem. I have experienced problems in other arenas with
pipes under Win98 but not under Win2k in which the Windows pipe system changed. My experience of flakiness
with pipes driving gnuplot also followed this pattern. ie. very occasionally, I get misbehaviour
(broken plots) under Win98 but I haven't seen it under Win2k. When I experience a broken plot, I just re-run
the script and it's typically fine. I don't use it interactively from Python.

Gary
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Alan G Isaac | 13 Aug 20:18 2004
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Re[2]: gplt and xplt

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Stephen Walton apparently wrote:
> If you want to do anything with Python, you
> owe it to yourself to try ipython.  Perhaps it is the fervor of the
> recently converted, but I'm a big fan of it.

OK.
I use Windows 2000.
I installed ctypes.
I installed readline.
I installed IPython.

IPython failes with a call to readline.set_completer:
AttributeError: module has no attribute set_completer

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Alan Isaac
Fernando Perez | 13 Aug 22:21 2004
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Re: gplt and xplt

Alan G Isaac wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Stephen Walton apparently wrote:
> 
>>If you want to do anything with Python, you
>>owe it to yourself to try ipython.  Perhaps it is the fervor of the
>>recently converted, but I'm a big fan of it.
> 
> 
> OK.
> I use Windows 2000.
> I installed ctypes.

Which version?  There's a notice at http://ipython.scipy.org about a problem 
with 0.9 & unc-readline, which is the current one.

This is unfortunate, but beyond my control.  The unc-readline author is 
working on it, but for now the only solution is to backpedal to ctypes 0.6.

> I installed readline.

Which one?  The unc-readline, from:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/uncpythontools

is the only one that works correctly.  The one here:

http://newcenturycomputers.net/projects/readline.html

is terminally broken, don't use it.  It's not a real readline, it misses 
critical parts of the api.
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Alan G Isaac | 14 Aug 00:07 2004
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Re[2]: gplt and xplt


> Alan G Isaac wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Stephen Walton apparently wrote:

>>> If you want to do anything with Python, you
>>> owe it to yourself to try ipython.  Perhaps it is the fervor of the
>>> recently converted, but I'm a big fan of it.

>> OK.
>> I use Windows 2000.
>> I installed ctypes.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Fernando Perez apparently wrote:
> There's a notice at http://ipython.scipy.org about a problem
> with 0.9 & unc-readline, which is the current one.

> This is unfortunate, but beyond my control.  The unc-readline author is
> working on it, but for now the only solution is to backpedal to ctypes 0.6.

Will this involve anything beyond deleting the ctypes folder
and then installing 0.6?

> The unc-readline, from:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/uncpythontools
> is the only one that works correctly.

That's the one I used.

Thanks,
Alan Isaac
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Steve Schmerler | 14 Aug 11:41 2004
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Re: gnuplot.py

> Quoting Steve Schmerler <elcorto <at> gmx.net>:
> 
> > I'm missing a function like gplt.figure() and gplt.close() in Gnuplot.
> >
> > Has anyone an idea how to pop up a fresh plot window, plot some stuff in
> it
> > and then create the next window? I looked through the gnuplot (4.0) man
> but
> > found only 'exit' and 'quit'.
> 
> Since Gnuplot only manages one plotting window at a time, you need to
> create new
> instances.  If you use the extra support in IPython.GnuplotRuntime, you'll
> find
> a gp_new() function which does precisely that.  The equivalent with bare
> Gnuplot.py is, if I recall correctly, a call to the class constructor.
> 
you mean:

    import Gnuplot
    g=Gnuplot.Gnuplot()

Every 

    g=Gnuplot.Gnuplot()

kills the current wgnuplot.exe (I'm working on WinXP) as well as the current
plot window and starts a new gnuplot session (new wgnuplot.exe). The problem
is that I want to keep the former plot windows (I want them to appear one
after the other).
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Gary Pajer | 14 Aug 17:06 2004
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Re: Re[2]: gplt and xplt


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan G Isaac" <aisaac <at> american.edu>
To: "SciPy Users List" <scipy-user <at> scipy.net>
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 6:07 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [SciPy-user] gplt and xplt

> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Fernando Perez apparently wrote:
> > There's a notice at http://ipython.scipy.org about a problem
> > with 0.9 & unc-readline, which is the current one.
>
> > This is unfortunate, but beyond my control.  The unc-readline author is
> > working on it, but for now the only solution is to backpedal to ctypes
0.6.
>
> Will this involve anything beyond deleting the ctypes folder
> and then installing 0.6?

I just installed the old one over the new one and it worked fine.  ymmv.

Fernando,  maybe you should put a note on the web site about this.  I did a
new install on a new machine and was quite puzzled for a while...
Fernando.Perez | 14 Aug 18:39 2004
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Re: Re[2]: gplt and xplt

Quoting Alan G Isaac <aisaac <at> american.edu>:

> > This is unfortunate, but beyond my control.  The unc-readline author is
> > working on it, but for now the only solution is to backpedal to ctypes 0.6.
>
> Will this involve anything beyond deleting the ctypes folder
> and then installing 0.6?

I suppose so, but you'll have to give it a try.  Best,

f
Jeremy Martin | 14 Aug 19:51 2004
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gplot documentation

List,

Im new to using Scipy and was wondering where to look for 
documentation on gplot. Ive looked at the gnuplot webpage but havent 
found any sections that resemble the functions in the plotting 
tutorial. 

Thanks,

Jeremy
David Grant | 14 Aug 21:04 2004
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Re: gplt and xplt

Alan G Isaac wrote:

> http://biggles.sourceforge.net/
> 
>
>  
>
> Can you summarize your experience with biggles?

Biggles rocks.  It is a big more object oriented if I remember, compared 
to the others.  The only problem is no one has built biggles for windows 
with python 2.3, so in my opinion it is not cross-platform.  I have no 
idea if further windows packages will ever be built for future python 
versions so that's why I stay away from it as a long term solution.  I 
love the graphs it produces and it is very fast.

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