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Ben Rady | 2 Apr 2008 04:46
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Infinitest-Java v3 Released!

The Infinitest Project is proud to announce the the latest release of our
open-source continuous test runner for Java.

You can download
<http://infinitest.googlecode.com/files/infinitest-3.0.zip>it at
Infinitest.org.

Version 3 changes include:
- Automatic sorting of errors by point of failure, rather than by test
- New 'zero configuration' launcher
- Significantly improved test runner performance
- Regex-based filtering for tests
- Updated status and error messages

Check out the Getting
Started<http://infinitest.googlecode.com/files/Getting%20Started%20With%20Infinitest%203.m4v>or
What's
New in Infinitest
3<http://infinitest.googlecode.com/files/WhatsNewInInfinitest3.mov>screencasts
for more details.

- Ben

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James McGovern | 2 Apr 2008 11:56

Open Web Application Security Project (OWASP) : April 2008

> When: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:00 PM-8:00 PM (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time
> (US & Canada).
> Where: The Hartford, 690 Asylum Street, Hartford CT: Tower Building
> 
> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
> 
> At the core, OWASP is just a community of people passionate about software
> development and making sure the applications we create are done with
> security in mind. We all share a vision of a world where you can
> confidently trust the software you use. Unfortunately, the current
> software market doesn't encourage security - that's something we are
> trying to change. One of our primary missions is to make application
> security visible so that people can make informed decisions about risk.
> All of our events are free to attend and materials are available under an
> open source license... 
> Agenda: Wednesday, April 30th, 2008 
> Food and Networking: 5:30 - 5:45 PM: Sponsored by Ounce Labs
> (<http://www.ouncelabs.com>) 
> Opening Remarks: 5:45 - 6:00 PM James McGovern, Chapter Lead 
> Session One: 6:00 - 6:45 PM: The idiots guide to developing bad enterprise
> applications and worst logging practices
> Anton Chuvakin, Chief Logging Evangelist, LogLogic 
> Session Two: 6:45- 7:30 PM: Keeping Secrets - Application Security is a
> Business Imperative
> Jack Danahy, CTO and Founder, Ounce Labs 
> Closing: 7:30- 7:45 PM: Raffles and Door Prizes
> 
> Next Meeting: Wednesday, June 11th, 2008 
> Session One: 6:00 - 6:45 PM: Identity Governance Framework
> Prateek Mishra, Director of Security Standards at Oracle. Pioneered
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Clarke, June | 2 Apr 2008 19:02
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[ANN:] XPSD Meeting - Thursday, April 3rd <at> 6:00PM

SEX SEX SEX

You won't get any if you keep going to talks like this one:

A Little Taste of NMock2 For That Smooth, Relaxing, Unit-Testing Flavor.

We'll explore how the NMock2 library makes it easy to remove
dependencies and test behaviors in unit tests, allowing you to quickly
set up tests that confirm your code does what you want it to be doing. 

This code-intensive presentation covers the motivation for using Mock
Objects, and once we have covered the basics, we'll show our
unbelievably effective technique for using dynamic mock objects as an
exploratory discovery tool for introducing characterization tests for
"legacy" code (that is, code without sufficient tests as described by
Michael Feathers).

NMock2 is a free, open source dynamic mock object library for .NET that
can help you isolate the target and test only the localized
functionality. This is very easy to do, and you can be up and running in
just a few minutes.  Mock objects can give you years of trouble-free
pleasure that you otherwise miss out on if you don't come to this
presentation.

The meeting will be held at SAIC on Campus Point Dr. (
http://xpsd.org/SAICDirections ) from 6-7:30 PM on Thursday April 3rd.
Please RSVP to joonspoon <at> joonspoon.com so that we can have a badge ready
for you. If you are not a U.S. citizen, bring your passport with you to
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Alan Baljeu | 8 Apr 2008 03:16
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where do i go next?

The company I was working for shut down, putting me on the market for a new job.  Does anyone know where I can go
to find discussion about good places to work?  I don't really have a good idea of what other jobs are like or
where such info might be found.  I know I don't want to work for a document-heavy organization, but beyond
that....  

I live in SW Ontario, Canada.  Just musing, are there telecommuting jobs around?

Alan Baljeu
http://www.collaborative-systems.org
Intelligent software that works _with_ you.

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Cory Foy | 8 Apr 2008 04:04

RE: where do i go next?

You can start with the xp-jobs mailing list on Yahoo! Groups. Always neat things there - and I've seen people
post seeking position posts there as well.

Cory (from mobile)

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To: testdrivendevelopment <at> yahoogroups.com
Sent: 4/7/08 9:16 PM
Subject: [TDD] where do i go next?

The company I was working for shut down, putting me on the market for a new job.  Does anyone know where I can go
to find discussion about good places to work?  I don't really have a good idea of what other jobs are like or
where such info might be found.  I know I don't want to work for a document-heavy organization, but beyond
that....  

I live in SW Ontario, Canada.  Just musing, are there telecommuting jobs around?

Alan Baljeu
http://www.collaborative-systems.org
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unmesh_joshi | 8 Apr 2008 10:38
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TDD as a pattern.

Hi,

I was thinking about if TDD can be presented as a pattern. 
(Offcourse only by experts who are practicing TDD for years and have 
seen it 'recurring')
What is the problem/context and forces for TDD or unit testing? 
In Organizational patterns, there are already patterns like
1. Get On With It
2. Scenario Defines Problem
3. Application Design Bounded by Test Design

What TDD or GUT offers more than these patterns? Whats the 
problem/context?

From TDD literature the problem/context looks like

Context:

 "Developers often get to overly complex designs and class structures
which are difficult to modify and maintain. These designs also miss
the mark and do more or less than what they are supposed to do"

 Forces:
 1) Developers often get lost in solution domain and miss out 
important commonalities/variations in the problem domain.

 2)It is difficult to understand/guess about how to represent 
variations in given solution domain unless we actually  see some 
code.
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Gishu Pillai | 8 Apr 2008 11:12
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Re: where do i go next?

Not tried this ... but seems like a good one to look at -- lots of
jobs postings in the US

http://jobs.joelonsoftware.com/

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Donaldson, John (GEO | 8 Apr 2008 11:14
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RE: TDD as a pattern.

Unmesh,

I'm not sure about the validity of force 3 " Designs lack "reversibility"". At least it's not been a force on
me much.

Another force which I think you are missing is around the existence of tests. We all agree (at least I think)
that code should come with tests, but how to get there? One good way is the discipline of writing the tests
along with the code, and preferably before.

There's also something around the notion of refactoring. We want to be able to easily change and refactor
our code, and having the safety net of tests is really crucial to this.

Another part of the context is that, without TDD, it just gets harder and harder to
change/understand/remember the growing code base.

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Cory Foy | 8 Apr 2008 15:31

RE: TDD as a pattern.

Hi Unmesh,

An important part of TDD, for me, is that the tests keep me focused on managable chunks of the system. Without
that focus, many of us keep tweaking and adding "just a little bit" until we aren't sure what just happened.

I don't know if TDD itself could be a pattern, but there certainly are patterns that can be extracted in doing
TDD, or trying to get there.

Cory (from mobile)

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Subject: [TDD] TDD as a pattern.

Hi,

I was thinking about if TDD can be presented as a pattern. 
(Offcourse only by experts who are practicing TDD for years and have 
seen it 'recurring')
What is the problem/context and forces for TDD or unit testing? 
In Organizational patterns, there are already patterns like
1. Get On With It
2. Scenario Defines Problem
3. Application Design Bounded by Test Design

What TDD or GUT offers more than these patterns? Whats the 
problem/context?
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Brandon Byars | 8 Apr 2008 20:00
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Re: TDD as a pattern.

Hi Unmesh,

>  I was thinking about if TDD can be presented as a pattern.
>  (Offcourse only by experts who are practicing TDD for years and have
>  seen it 'recurring')

IIRC, Kent Beck presented a set of mini-patterns at the end of his TDD
book for ways to solve problems within TDD.  I actually prefer the
smaller-scoped patterns like the kind Beck presented than the
traditional pattern format.

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