Mike Cohn | 1 Oct 2004 01:44
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RE: Impediment Reporting

When I don’t get a good response to a question, I find a completely different way of asking. So, if my 8-year-old daughter doesn’t respond to “What did you do at school today?” I will try “Who did you talk to at lunch today” or “What did you study in history today?”  I suggest the same approach with the scrum teams. Try asking the question in different ways, “What could I do to help your team?” (assuming you want to know because you might be one to help them) or “I have some free time this week, I’d like to spend it helping. Is anything slowing you down?” 

 

Additionally, my guess is that some of the impediments you have are either long-term or institutional type impediments (not the one-timers like “I need RAM for the build server”). Try getting at those with a “sprint retrospective.” Perhaps gathering all teams into one retrospective. I like to keep these lightweight and I only ask three questions (well sometimes a fourth):

 

--What should we start doing?

--What should we stop doing?

--What should we continue doing?

 

These are called, logically, start/stop/continue meetings. We look at what we want to start doing in our process (“We want to start doing more early testing.”) or what we want to stop (“I want to stop freezing the database design in mid-sprint.”)

 

If we get a healthy list the fourth question I ask is “which do we want to focus on in *this* sprint?” and we’ll narrow the list down so we make noticeable progress against a small set of items. This will probably bring up the bigger, longer-term impediments and you can systematically remove them.

 

Good luck,

 

--Mike Cohn

Author of User Stories Applied for Agile Software Development

www.mountaingoatsoftware.com

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From: Clinton Keith [mailto:ckeith <at> sammystudios.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:42 AM
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Subject: [scrumdevelopment] Impediment Reporting

 

I am seeking some advice on how to better coach Scrum teams to report impediments more frequently.

 

We are on our sixth Sprint since starting Scrum.  We have seven Scrum teams up and running.

 

The problem is that we don’t have as much impediment reporting as I feel we should.  The impediments are definitely out there and people are happy to privately complain about them, but we need all the teams to see these impediments and either take ownership in solving them or to pass them along to those that can.  One idea is to ask each Scrum Master to report their top four team impediments at the Scrum of Scrums, but this seems to be a bit of a forced process on something that should be happening more naturally.  It seems that this probably boils down to the teams not quite understanding the ownership/self-organization principles of Scrum.

Any advice from the more experienced Scrum Masters out there?

 

Thanks,
Clint

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Deb | 1 Oct 2004 01:56

Abnormal Termination by another name...

> If the customer changes what they want they will be 
> given a new estimate.

This is a great way to talk about what we usually call Abnormal
Termination of a Sprint. I'm going to remember that. It's so
customer-centric.

--- In scrumdevelopment <at> yahoogroups.com, "Mike Dwyer"
<mike.dwyer1 <at> c...> wrote:
> Let's ask some questions.
> 
>  
> 
> Within a Sprint, what value does measurement add to the functionality
> committed to at the end of the sprint?
> 
>             If a customer is willing to reduce the functional output
of a
> sprint in order to measure the effectiveness of the sprint then let
it be a
> task in the backlog and assigned a priority and commitment.
> 
>  
> 
> Second what value does measurement of sprints add to the
functionality of
> the product being delivered.
> 
>             If a customer is willing to pay for nonfunctional tasks
to be
> conducted while moving a product through a series of sprints then
track the
> resources being consumed by allowing the providers of the non functional
> tasks to provide and track their own resources to conduct the
measurements
> as chickens.
> 
>  
> 
> Finally what value is there in evaluating a product developed through
> measurements if there is no means to verify and measure points of
> improvement between products that use the same methodology?
> 
>  
> 
> Some thoughts
> 
> If we are going to apply Scrum and Agile principles to measurements
we need
> to begin with the customer
> 
> What have they assigned us at any given time?
> 
> The delivery of a specific set of functions using the available
resources
> 
> Measurement equals delivery.  Period.
> 
> If the customer changes what they want they will be given a new
estimate.
> 
> Measurement equals old commitment minus new commitment giving
> 
> A negative value indicating the resources are saturated and cannot
absorb
> the change
> 
> A positive value indicating the resources are either not saturated
(bad) or
> have increased their productivity (good)
> 
>  
> 
> .
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Michael F. Dwyer
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Gordon [mailto:sagordon <at> a...] 
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:05 AM
> To: scrumdevelopment <at> yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [scrumdevelopment] SCRUM performance measurements
> 
>  
> 
> Jim,
> 
>  
> 
> How can you make the claim clipped below from the middle of your 
> posting unless this metric was being tracked before starting to do 
> 
> Scrum?
> 
>  
> 
> What does this metric (actual developer time spent on sprint tasks)
> 
> even mean outside of the context of Scrum anyway?
> 
>  
> 
> Steven Gordon
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Schiel James - SHS Malvern [mailto:james.schiel <at> s...] 
> Sent: Sun 9/26/2004 7:52 PM 
> To: 'scrumdevelopment <at> yahoogroups.com' 
> Cc: 
> Subject: RE: [scrumdevelopment] SCRUM performance measurements
> 
>  
> 
> <clip>
> 
>  My experience so far shows a measurable increase in
> actual developer time when compared to non-Scrum iterations.
> 
> <clip>
> 
> Jim Schiel
> Siemens Medical Solutions, Malvern, PA

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Karl Scotland | 1 Oct 2004 10:58
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Scrum In The Park


Saw this on the side of a London bus and thought maybe Ken was pushing
the boat out for the next Scrum Gathering...

http://www.o2scruminthepark.co.uk/scrum.php

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Pete Bevin | 1 Oct 2004 14:47

Re: Impediment Reporting


If people aren't telling you about impediments, then either (a) they
don't have any, or (b) they haven't yet grokked that they are
personally committed to completing their backlog items by the end of
the sprint.

The speech I give these days is "If you as a team sign up to these
backlog items, it means that come hell or high water, you have to
deliver them by the end of the sprint.  So if there is anything
stopping you from doing that, you have to let people know sooner
rather than later, otherwise there are going to be some very late
nights four weeks from now."

Pete.

----- Original Message -----
From: Clinton Keith <ckeith <at> sammystudios.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:49:19 -0700
Subject: RE: [scrumdevelopment] Impediment Reporting
To: scrumdevelopment <at> yahoogroups.com

Mike, 

The point of reporting was to find a way to elicit more detail on the
answer to the third scrum question: "What are your impediments?".  We
are simply not getting people in the meeting answering this question.

Your suggestion of focusing on only the impediments in the Scrum of
Scrums is excellent.  We'll try this.

Clint

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Schiel James - SHS Malvern | 1 Oct 2004 15:55
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RE: Scrum In The Park

Ouch!
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That's great. I feel sorry for anyone who takes their ScrumMaster training
from here by mistake: http://www.scrummaster.com

--Mike Cohn
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www.userstories.com
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Saw this on the side of a London bus and thought maybe Ken was pushing
the boat out for the next Scrum Gathering...

http://www.o2scruminthepark.co.uk/scrum.php

Its something to aspire to :)

Karl

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woynam | 1 Oct 2004 16:14

Re: Scrum In The Park

Oh, I don't know. I've seen a few scrums where this could come in
handy! :-)

It would certainly aid the ScrumMaster in learning to deal with
certain types of impediments.

Mark

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> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:58 AM
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> 
> 
> Saw this on the side of a London bus and thought maybe Ken was
pushing
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> http://www.o2scruminthepark.co.uk/scrum.php
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> Its something to aspire to :)
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Schiel James - SHS Malvern | 1 Oct 2004 16:58
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RE: Re: Scrum In The Park

"My way or the highway" becomes "My way or the ER."
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Oh, I don't know. I've seen a few scrums where this could come in
handy! :-)

It would certainly aid the ScrumMaster in learning to deal with
certain types of impediments.

Mark

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>
> --Mike Cohn
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> www.mountaingoatsoftware.com
> www.userstories.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl Scotland [mailto:karl.scotland <at> b...]
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:58 AM
> To: scrumdevelopment <at> yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [scrumdevelopment] Scrum In The Park
>
>
> Saw this on the side of a London bus and thought maybe Ken was
pushing
> the boat out for the next Scrum Gathering...
>
> http://www.o2scruminthepark.co.uk/scrum.php
>
> Its something to aspire to :)
>
> Karl
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RE: Scrum In The Park

That's great. I feel sorry for anyone who takes their ScrumMaster training
from here by mistake: http://www.scrummaster.com 

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Saw this on the side of a London bus and thought maybe Ken was pushing
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Clinton Keith | 1 Oct 2004 19:54

RE: Impediment Reporting

The problem is that they have plenty of impediments _and_ they are working very late nights.  

One thing mentioed in the CSM course was that it was difficult for the team to adjust to the Scrum pattern
ownership/self-organizational.  We spend most of our careers being told what tasks to do in what order and
how much time we need to finish them in.  As a result we are not going to develop an aggressive attitude
towards impediments from the start.

It's kind of like the fact that you don't take care of your rental car as well as you would take care of the car
you own .  ;)

Clint

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	Cc: 
	Subject: Re: [scrumdevelopment] Impediment Reporting
	
	
	If people aren't telling you about impediments, then either (a) they
	don't have any, or (b) they haven't yet grokked that they are
	personally committed to completing their backlog items by the end of
	the sprint.
	
	The speech I give these days is "If you as a team sign up to these
	backlog items, it means that come hell or high water, you have to
	deliver them by the end of the sprint.  So if there is anything
	stopping you from doing that, you have to let people know sooner
	rather than later, otherwise there are going to be some very late
	nights four weeks from now."
	
	Pete.
	
	
	
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	Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:49:19 -0700
	Subject: RE: [scrumdevelopment] Impediment Reporting
	To: scrumdevelopment <at> yahoogroups.com
	
	Mike, 
	
	The point of reporting was to find a way to elicit more detail on the
	answer to the third scrum question: "What are your impediments?".  We
	are simply not getting people in the meeting answering this question.
	
	Your suggestion of focusing on only the impediments in the Scrum of
	Scrums is excellent.  We'll try this.
	
	Clint
	
	
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Ron Jeffries | 1 Oct 2004 21:44

Re: Impediment Reporting

On Friday, October 1, 2004, at 7:47:06 AM, Pete Bevin wrote:

> The speech I give these days is "If you as a team sign up to these
> backlog items, it means that come hell or high water, you have to
> deliver them by the end of the sprint.  So if there is anything
> stopping you from doing that, you have to let people know sooner
> rather than later, otherwise there are going to be some very late
> nights four weeks from now."

The above does not feel to me to be in the spirit of Scrum and Agile
methods. Am I missing something?

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