John Brewer | 1 Jan 02:18 2006

Re: Sortable Post-It Cards

On 12/31/05, Michael Campbell <michael.campbell <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> That seems like dubious advertising to me.

Ever try to sort a stack of regular Post-Its?

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Mark Wilden | 1 Jan 04:31 2006

Re: Sortable Post-It Cards

From: "John Brewer" <jbrewer <at> jera.com>
>
> Ever try to sort a stack of regular Post-Its?

Or hassle with scotch-taping index cards to the wall? I'd say this was one 
of the biggest technical breakthroughs in XP history! 

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Amir Kolsky | 1 Jan 15:46 2006
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RE: Sortable Post-It Cards

Not so dubious... You can sort index cards, you can't sort post-its. Now you
can. Hence, they are sortable...

 Amir Kolsky
XP& Software

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>[mailto:extremeprogramming <at> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>Michael Campbell
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>To: extremeprogramming <at> yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [XP] Sortable Post-It Cards
>
>On 12/31/05, Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries <at> xprogramming.com> wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 31, 2005, at 12:18:21 PM, Michael 
>Campbell wrote:
>>
>> > I don't get it; how do you sort them?  I don't see what mechanics 
>> > lay behind them...
>>
>> They are cards. You can sort them like cards, I imagine.
>
>Ah, so there's nothing about them that makes them INHERENTLY 
>sortable, say, over a run 'o the mill 3x5 card.  I figured 
>each one was cut a slightly different height or something to 
>make sorting them easier. 
>But then I wondered how that would make sorting them easier.
>
>That seems like dubious advertising to me.
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Robert Williams | 2 Jan 05:12 2006
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Re: Introducing XP at My Workplace: A Turn for the Worse


>>that's an indication to throw out anything that you have in terms of a
>>project and start over - take a day or two, start fresh, and solve the
>>problem at hand as opposed to the problem that had been scheduled. I hope
>>    
>>
Well, I didn't wind up having to throw /everything/ out.  But we did 
wind up ripping out most of it.  And the parts we kept, we refactored to 
the point that it will be easy if and when we need to add those pieces 
back in.

Thanks again for all the advice.

Robert

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Ron Jeffries | 2 Jan 12:06 2006

Re: Re: Starting XP, looking for suggestions.

Hi Jeff ... I've been holding back from responding in hopes that I'd
think of something profound to say. Since that appears not to be
happening, here's what I've got. ;->

On Saturday, December 31, 2005, at 12:03:13 PM, jeffadams78 wrote:

> Well, at first I wasn't going to do card-based planning because it
> seems so "antiquated"... just track everything online!  But all the
> resources say over and over again the same thing: there's just no
> substitute for being able to pick up the cards, flip through 'em,
> stack 'em, etc.  And I can understand that, honestly I think I was
> more worried about what my boss and PM would think if they saw me
> playing with index cards.  But really, if it gets the job done, who
> cares if they giggle behind my back at first?

I carry 3x5 cards in my pocket. I use them to write down the phone
numbers of any good looking people who offer their number, to sign
autographs for people requesting them, to draw maps of how to get to
Lu & Carl's from wherever, and still have plenty left over for less
important things, like

  * making short notes on things I observe when working with a team;

  * writing class or object names one per card, and moving the cards
    around on the table to describe how something works;

  * writing story names one per card and arranging them to make a
    schedule;

  * writing book chapter ideas one per card to arrange chapters as
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Dominic Williams | 2 Jan 12:07 2006
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Re: Sortable Post-It Cards

John Roth wrote:

> Cards are best used in a much more fluid environment.

So they are waterproof as well!

A planning game at the beach, swimming pool or in a sailing
boat!

Happy New Year,

Dominic Williams
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William Wake | 2 Jan 13:31 2006
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Re: Sortable Post-It Cards

On 12/31/05, William Pietri <william <at> scissor.com> wrote:
> Does anybody know where to buy these? I couldn't find them on
> officedepot.com, officemax.com,  shopping.com, or Froogle.

I emailed 3M and got this response:

"Dear Bill,

Thank you for contacting 3M Company.

Post-it(R) Products can be found in office supply stores and in the school
or office supply section of many retail stores. You may also be able to
order Post-it(R) Products on-line from your favorite office supply web
site. If a dealer or distributor doesn't stock the product you need
routinely, you can ask them to special order it. This product is very new
and you may wish to check Target. Hope this information is helpful.

Happy New Year!
Sincerely,
Liz
3M Office Supplies Division

http://www.post-it.com"

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Greg Akins | 2 Jan 13:43 2006
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Re: Re: OT: Podcasts

Fnially

On 12/24/05, Jeff Grigg <jeffgrigg <at> charter.net> wrote:
>
> --- Greg Akins <angrygreg <at> g...> wrote:
> > Does anyone know of any podcasts related to programming/
> > technology that are published on a daily basis.
>
> Well, there's "Drunk and Retired"...   ;->
>   (weekly)
>
> http://www.drunkandretired.com/
>
>
> And while it's not a regular show, I have to mention "Blah Blah
> Architecture"...
>
> http://www.mariocardinal.com/podcast/Show/0001.html

Finally got around to listening to that Podcast.  Not that technical; but
probably perfect for what I wanted it for (listening to something
entertaining while on working out in the morning.

I thought a podcast that reflects more of the Agile community views would be
interesting.  The Agile Toolkit is great; but new stuff doesn't appear there
that often.

Since there are a lot of writers and bloggers on this list I wonder if
there's a chance of getting permission to record various things as
podcasts.  I'm thinking magazine articles, longer blog entries, chapters
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Dominic Williams | 2 Jan 13:44 2006
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Re: New practice: Slack

Jim Shore wrote:

> Ron Jeffries wrote:
>
>> Yes, I completely agree that commitment is important.
> 
> I do too, and sadly I have also seen the "we're agile,
> we don't commit" meme.

Do you all agree on what commitment /is/ ?

Dominic Williams
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Dominic Williams | 2 Jan 14:06 2006
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Re: New practice: Slack

Erik Lundh wrote:

> Then Slack becomes a span. 

Interesting story... I like the fact that the possibility
of being early or late gets acknowledged and openly discussed.
Are the customers in the same room as the developers? If so,
what value do you see in planning each outcome at the start of
the iteration rather than at some point along the way?

What you describe, however, is not my understanding of slack
according to Kent.

Regards,

Dominic Williams
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