TSAFATINOS | 1 Sep 02:20 2004
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Re: [MUTE] I just shit my pants

It has been updated. Scroll down untill you see MFC Mute. That was updated a week ago.


In a message dated 8/31/04 1:46:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cms01 <at> tampabay.rr.com writes:


So, after all this, is the website are sourceforge going to be updated?
or is this it?



TSAFATINOS | 1 Sep 02:28 2004
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Re: [MUTE] About Protocol changes (and gift-mute)

Let me know when you put something together. I would be very happy to bata-test it and give some feed back.


In a message dated 8/31/04 2:17:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mbellett <at> cs.unibo.it writes:


Well, as I said before, this stuff will be included only once my
implementation of the MUTE standard protocol works, so here I'm talking
only about simple ideas. Anyway, my intention is to put both codes in
the same source tree, then let choose at compile time if you want
single-stack-MUTE, single-stack-<new MUTE protocol>, or double-stack.
So, everyone is happy, and uses what he likes the most ;P.



Richard | 1 Sep 16:54 2004
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Re: [MUTE] I just shit my pants

NO, the other OS complete install packages, HAVE NOT.
They are still version 0.3 for THE Macintosh.

Richard

On Aug 31, 2004, at 8:20 PM, TSAFATINOS <at> aol.com wrote:

> It has been updated. Scroll down untill you see MFC Mute. That was 
> updated a week ago.
>
>

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closedshop | 2 Sep 18:10 2004
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[MUTE] Re: gift-mute hybrid

Hi

it is good to have somone who will make the first mute-hybri and breaks the
ice.
For Gift I do not know, if this is used often by developers. No app has gift
? Morpheus uses mldonkey.

Anyway, make development to any mute-hybrid, because all other apps are
second generation and today interconnected.

But what we need is a edonkey-mute (m-onkey) to get over the hybrid-edonkey
the server-results to normal mute clients.

That´s simply all.

Forwarding of search requests.
Beacuse mute uses sah1, emule should go sha1.
emule has the advantage to be open source.
An edonkey plugin would be good as well - but why shoudl a user plug it in ?
MM will not deliver mute as a default on plug-.

Though Shareaza DNA is the future

Making gift to the standard like shareaza is a long way !!

Gift is (in ist history) close to Fasttrack, but who cares about FT ?

Edonkeyresults in mute are needed !

Thanks.

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Mattia Belletti | 3 Sep 03:18 2004
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Re: [MUTE] Re: gift-mute hybrid


closedshop <at> gmx.de wrote:
| Hi
|
| it is good to have somone who will make the first mute-hybri and
breaks the
| ice.
| For Gift I do not know, if this is used often by developers. No app
has gift
| ? Morpheus uses mldonkey.
|
|
| Anyway, make development to any mute-hybrid, because all other apps are
| second generation and today interconnected.
|
| But what we need is a edonkey-mute (m-onkey) to get over the
hybrid-edonkey
| the server-results to normal mute clients.
|
| That´s simply all.
|
| Forwarding of search requests.
| Beacuse mute uses sah1, emule should go sha1.
| emule has the advantage to be open source.
| An edonkey plugin would be good as well - but why shoudl a user plug
it in ?
| MM will not deliver mute as a default on plug-.
|
| Though Shareaza DNA is the future
|
| Making gift to the standard like shareaza is a long way !!
|
| Gift is (in ist history) close to Fasttrack, but who cares about FT ?
|
| Edonkeyresults in mute are needed !
|
| Thanks.

Random replies:
MUTE is about security and privacy, not getting lots of files. At
least, this is how I see it. Obviously, security, privacy AND getting
lots of files would be great too :). This is why I would think more
about good architecture, THEN about lots of files. And, anyway, as
I-don't-remember-who said in an interview, anonymous file sharing
systems will *always* be suboptimal, if we confront them with
non-anonymous ones.
mldonkey is fine, edonkey is fine, but I knew better giFT and liked
more giFT, this is why I started working with giFT :). All in all, since
I'm writing quite modular code, I think it could be easily re-used to
work as a edonkey plugin (if they are interfaced with C and/or C++).
know nothing about Shareaza DNA, but I'm no great expert of lots of
filesharing systems! :) - I've approached MUTE because of the security
issues.

Anyway, giFT is, nowadays, filesharing-system-indipendent, in its
architecture. There exists plugin for various networks, but not many are
used, expect for the FT one.

PS: obviously, if someone ever wanted to help me with documentation, web
pages, style sheets, and so on, even if he can't touch a single line of
C++, he would be welcome :)

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Eric | 3 Sep 05:29 2004
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Re: [MUTE] Re: gift-mute hybrid

what are you studying in your Undergraduate Degree
over in Italy?

--- Mattia Belletti <mbellett <at> cs.unibo.it> wrote:

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> closedshop <at> gmx.de wrote:
> | Hi
> |
> | it is good to have somone who will make the first
> mute-hybri and
> breaks the
> | ice.
> | For Gift I do not know, if this is used often by
> developers. No app
> has gift
> | ? Morpheus uses mldonkey.
> |
> |
> | Anyway, make development to any mute-hybrid,
> because all other apps are
> | second generation and today interconnected.
> |
> | But what we need is a edonkey-mute (m-onkey) to
> get over the
> hybrid-edonkey
> | the server-results to normal mute clients.
> |
> | Thats simply all.
> |
> | Forwarding of search requests.
> | Beacuse mute uses sah1, emule should go sha1.
> | emule has the advantage to be open source.
> | An edonkey plugin would be good as well - but why
> shoudl a user plug
> it in ?
> | MM will not deliver mute as a default on plug-.
> |
> | Though Shareaza DNA is the future
> |
> | Making gift to the standard like shareaza is a
> long way !!
> |
> | Gift is (in ist history) close to Fasttrack, but
> who cares about FT ?
> |
> | Edonkeyresults in mute are needed !
> |
> | Thanks.
> 
> Random replies:
> - - MUTE is about security and privacy, not getting
> lots of files. At
> least, this is how I see it. Obviously, security,
> privacy AND getting
> lots of files would be great too :). This is why I
> would think more
> about good architecture, THEN about lots of files.
> And, anyway, as
> I-don't-remember-who said in an interview, anonymous
> file sharing
> systems will *always* be suboptimal, if we confront
> them with
> non-anonymous ones.
> - - mldonkey is fine, edonkey is fine, but I knew
> better giFT and liked
> more giFT, this is why I started working with giFT
> :). All in all, since
> I'm writing quite modular code, I think it could be
> easily re-used to
> work as a edonkey plugin (if they are interfaced
> with C and/or C++).
> - - know nothing about Shareaza DNA, but I'm no
> great expert of lots of
> filesharing systems! :) - I've approached MUTE
> because of the security
> issues.
> 
> Anyway, giFT is, nowadays,
> filesharing-system-indipendent, in its
> architecture. There exists plugin for various
> networks, but not many are
> used, expect for the FT one.
> 
> PS: obviously, if someone ever wanted to help me
> with documentation, web
> pages, style sheets, and so on, even if he can't
> touch a single line of
> C++, he would be welcome :)
> 
> - --
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> cs.unibo.it
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Tsafa | 3 Sep 05:32 2004
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Re: [MUTE] Re: gift-mute hybrid

Why not give it a try. Who knows what will be discovered in the process.  He might find the solutions and be able to contribute to the original mute too.
 
In a message dated 9/2/2004 9:25:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mbellett <at> cs.unibo.it writes:
Random replies:
- - MUTE is about security and privacy, not getting lots of files. At
least, this is how I see it. Obviously, security, privacy AND getting
lots of files would be great too :). This is why I would think more
about good architecture, THEN about lots of files. And, anyway, as
I-don't-remember-who said in an interview, anonymous file sharing
systems will *always* be suboptimal, if we confront them with
non-anonymous ones.
 
Euseval | 3 Sep 08:52 2004
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[MUTE] NEW NETWORK:  FAST (faster than bittorrent) - patch for implemenation in Mute-Gnutella

Hi

There is a new network / protocol out, please announce it at Zeropaid and Slyck and Slashdot and on the Boards
of p2p apps. It is faster than Bittorrent. So Implement it in the MUTE application and it will be faster than
Bittorrent. Also it is a layer-patch for Gnutella. 
Unbelievable, but in 20 Months it will be on the market. It is open source. If you post it in other lists, add
the edonkeyhash of the code to the news.
thanks.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><
FAST NETWORK FOR 5 GB in 5 SECONDS OVER TCP

http://netlab.caltech.edu/FAST/

FAST is a congestion control algorithm that improves TCP performance in high speed networks. It is based on
a broader theoretical effort to develop robust and stable ultrascale networking.

A Beta version of FAST is available from this website with instructions on how to link it to an OS dependent
module for use in a variety of operating systems. We welcome you to download and use FAST for research
purposes in your network and encourage your feedback. We are particularly interested in establishing
contact with high speed WAN users (>500Mbps) of FAST.

What is FAST TCP?
FAST TCP is an alternative congestion control algorithm in TCP. It is designed for high speed data
transfers over large distance, e.g., tens of gigabyte files across the Atlantic. Our current
implementation is in TCP on Linux platform, though the principles and design can be implemented in other
contexts than TCP. 

Can I use FAST TCP with FTP or application X,Y,Z? 
FAST TCP is just like TCP in the sense that any application, such as FTP, using TCP will use FAST TCP once the
patch is installed. You dont need any special programs to use FAST TCP.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

New!! Download FAST Source Code April 2004

http://netlab.caltech.edu/FAST/fastdownload.php

OPERATIN SYSTEM DEPENDEND
http://netlab.caltech.edu/FAST/download.php?rel_id=11&ver=os_dep

OPERATING SYSTEM INDEPENDENT
http://netlab.caltech.edu/FAST/download.php?rel_id=11&ver=os_dep

FAQ / HOW TO INSTALL
http://netlab.caltech.edu/FAST/fastfaq.html
http://netlab.caltech.edu/FAST/fastinstall.html

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Mattia Belletti | 3 Sep 20:25 2004
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Re: [MUTE] NEW NETWORK: FAST (faster than bittorrent) - patch for implemenation in Mute-Gnutella


Euseval <at> aol.com wrote:
| Hi
|
| There is a new network / protocol out, please announce it at Zeropaid
and Slyck and Slashdot and on the Boards of p2p apps. It is faster than
Bittorrent. So Implement it in the MUTE application and it will be
faster than Bittorrent. Also it is a layer-patch for Gnutella.
| Unbelievable, but in 20 Months it will be on the market. It is open
source. If you post it in other lists, add the edonkeyhash of the code
to the news.
| thanks.

Your interest is great, and FAST can be a good thing, but I think you
don't know exactly what you're talking about (and neither that your
e-mail client doesn't correctly break the lines of your mail :P)...

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prova | 4 Sep 20:11 2004
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[MUTE] Re: Fwd: Anonymous P2P Comparison

Hi!

I'm new to the list. I would suggest episteme.arstechnica.com as a good 
start. There are a lot of knowledgable people around.

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