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Michael Chinn | 1 Apr 2010 03:06
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Re: Newbie question: Package Naming Best Practices? [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

I too struggle with naming packages in a consistent manner, I like your schema
I am guessing this would be the summary...

category[-productsuite][-addon]-product[-majorversion]

I have added one amendment from my own system

category[-productsuite][-addon|fix|remove|settings]-product[-majorversion]

(basically Im just adding a verb to sub-products)

I can see this being pretty useful to enforce once you get past 20-30 packages (Im at 210, sigh!)
A wiki policy/best practice page might be useful for things like this.

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Robert Backhaus | 1 Apr 2010 03:54
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Quicktime - "Apple Application Support" now required, /quiet flag silently broken

Just thought I'd give the list a heads-up on this problem.

The silent installer on the wiki for Quicktime no longer works. The
/quiet flag causes the installer to not install Apple Application
Support, and Quicktime refuses to run without it.

I have got mine working, using a similar technique as itunes, namely,
extracting the .msi's (i used cabextract successfully) and using the
following as my .xml. The quicktime package is straight from the
quicktime page(plus version changes), and the applesupport is from the
itunes page (again with version changes).

Perhaps someone with more experience than I could clean this up and
update the wiki?

<package id="quicktime" name="Apple Quicktime Player" revision="766"
priority="40" reboot="false">
   <depends package-id="applesupport" />
 <check type="logical" condition="and">
   <check type="registry" condition="exists"
path="HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{28BE306E-5DA6-4F9C-BDB0-DBA3C8C6FFFD}"
/>
   <check type="uninstall" condition="exists" path="QuickTime" />
 </check>
 <install cmd='"%SOFTWARE%\Quicktime\QuickTimeInstaller.exe" /quiet
/norestart ChkOptInstASU=0 DESKTOP_SHORTCUTS=0 QT_TRAY_ICON=0
SCHEDULE_ASUW=0' timeout="0">
   <exit code="0" />
   <exit code="3010" />
 </install>
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Brent A Nelson | 6 Apr 2010 01:07
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WPKG-gp on 64-bit? Also, WPKG Client issues on Win7 and a wpkg.js bug

Has WPKG-gp 0.2 been tested on 64-bit systems? The MSI is 32-bit only; 
will this work as a group policy extension on a 64-bit system?

I've tried and gotten nowhere; it's as if the extension doesn't exist 
(although the settings for it load fine).  I note that no entry for 
WPKG-gp exists in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows 
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\GPExtensions\, although it does exist in the 
Wow6432Node equivalent.

I can run the WPKG-GP-Client.exe manually, and it runs, but for some 
strange reason it tries to reinstall tons of things that are already 
installed! Perhaps being a 32-bit app, or something else about how the 
client sets up the environment, gives wpkg a different view of the system 
such that it can not perform "uninstall" checks correctly.

Perhaps a 64-bit compile would solve both these issues?

Thanks,

Brent Nelson
Director of Computing
Dept. of Physics
University of Florida

PS I'm testing WPKG-gp, since WPKG Client 1.3.9 seems to be unreliable on 
Windows 7.  WPKG Client doesn't work at all if told to run at startup, and 
installs often don't complete if told to run on shutdown (the shutdown 
seems to complete even while an install is still happening).  Plus, of 
course, it would be nice if the user got feedback about what's going on 
(hence the reason for the creation of WPKG-gp).
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Rainer Meier | 6 Apr 2010 08:27
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Re: WPKG-gp on 64-bit? Also, WPKG Client issues on Win7 and a wpkg.js bug

Hi,

On 06.04.2010 01:07, Brent A Nelson wrote:
> PPS While I'm at it, I'll mention that wpkg.js 1.1.2 can not reliably
> process dozens of individual XML files, at least in the case of packages
> definitions.  We had to use the little merge script that was posted (on
> the wiki?); otherwise, WPKG would simply not see several packages (and
> as you add more packages, the ones that are invisible change).  I
> believe it did claim to read all the xml files.  There's a bug in there
> somewhere. Merged together into a packages.xml, though, wpkg has been
> great.

Could you try the latest (unreleased) stable version (1.1.3-RC3)?
It's available here:
<http://wpkg.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wpkg/wpkg/stable/1.1/wpkg.js?revision=118>

In fact I think the code to read XML files has not been altered since a very
long time and you seem to be the first one having troubles with it.

Does this happen on all nodes or just on a few?

Could it be network related?

Can you post or send me a full debug log of WPKG? Any exceptions printed?
If there are exceptions we might catch them and retry reading the file if an
error occurs.

Probably it's about the format or encoding of the XML file(s). If you're able to
identify a specific file where it happens you could send it to the list for
analysis.
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Hans-Werner Friedemann | 6 Apr 2010 11:04
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HKEY_CURRENT_USER

Hi <at> all
 
I have to change an registry entry under HKEY_CURRENT_USER for each userprofile, which exists on a pc!
how can i perform this with wpkg?
 
Thanks for help
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Vladimir Psenicka | 6 Apr 2010 11:16
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Re: HKEY_CURRENT_USER

I think no, it can be done via logon script on server.

Dne 6.4.2010 11:04, Hans-Werner Friedemann napsal(a):
> Hi  <at>  all
>  
> I have to change an registry entry under HKEY_CURRENT_USER for each
> userprofile, which exists on a pc!
> how can i perform this with wpkg?
>  
> Thanks for help
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Jean-Jacques Moulis | 6 Apr 2010 16:35
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Re: WPKG-gp on 64-bit? Also, WPKG Client issues on Win7 and a wpkg.js bug

On 4/6/2010 1:07 AM, Brent A Nelson wrote:
> I can run the WPKG-GP-Client.exe manually, and it runs, but for some
> strange reason it tries to reinstall tons of things that are already
> installed! Perhaps being a 32-bit app, or something else about how the
> client sets up the environment, gives wpkg a different view of the
> system such that it can not perform "uninstall" checks correctly.

being a 32-bit app is the cause
wpkg.xml is stored in system32
sytem32 is not the same physical directory for 64 and 32 bit apps.

system32 is the home of 64 bit dlls for a 64 bit app
syswow64 is mapped to system32 for a 32 bit app and contains 32 bit dlls

something similar happens in the registry

We need a 64 bit app in order to be able to check all thinkable.
some parts of the sytem are hidden to a 32 bit app
only a 64 bit app can access everything.

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Jean-Jacques Moulis | 6 Apr 2010 16:53
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Re: WPKG-gp on 64-bit? Also, WPKG Client issues on Win7 and a wpkg.js bug

On 4/6/2010 4:35 PM, Jean-Jacques Moulis wrote:
> We need a 64 bit app in order to be able to check all thinkable.
> some parts of the sytem are hidden to a 32 bit app
> only a 64 bit app can access everything.

I am correcting myself:
we have to launch a 64 bit wpkg.js
we could use %windir%\Sysnative\cscript.exe for this to happen.

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Brent A Nelson | 6 Apr 2010 17:17
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Re: WPKG-gp on 64-bit? Also, WPKG Client issues on Win7 and a wpkg.js bug

On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Jean-Jacques Moulis wrote:

> On 4/6/2010 4:35 PM, Jean-Jacques Moulis wrote:
>> We need a 64 bit app in order to be able to check all thinkable.
>> some parts of the sytem are hidden to a 32 bit app
>> only a 64 bit app can access everything.
>
> I am correcting myself:
> we have to launch a 64 bit wpkg.js
> we could use %windir%\Sysnative\cscript.exe for this to happen.
>
>

Am I correct in thinking that that would fix the problem with manually 
running the client executable (wants to reinstall everything because 
it's not finding wpkg.xml and maybe other things) but would not help the 
GP extension (which doesn't seem to do anything)?

Thanks,

Brent
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Pendl Stefan | 6 Apr 2010 17:27
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Removing a dependency, removes all packages in the dependency chain

Hi Rainer,

I have just encountered a strange thing.

I have package3 depending on package2 and package2 depends on package1.

Now I have considered package1 to be obsolete and removed the dependency between package2 and package1.

This results in package2 and package3 being removed and reinstalled.

Package1 is removing any JRE5 version from the system, but since this is no more preinstalled, there is no
need to remove it.

Is this behavior by design or is there a way to skip removing, if the packages are still valid for the host?

Thanks in advance,
Stefan

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