[native-lang-dev] Re: Let's move on

On 13/12/2011 Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
> The new Apache OpenOffice is ready for you. We cannot and probably do
> not want to replicate what we have had here, but we can, I believe,
> take the best of it and move on.

To complete what Louis wrote: the infrastructure migration will see 
major steps in the next few days/weeks, so even if you are not 
interested in following the evolution of the openoffice.org 
infrastructure it could be useful that you follow
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/
to make sure that historical (but valuable) content is not lost.

Regards,
   Andrea.
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[native-lang-dev] new Apache OpenOffice.org mail list to replace this list

[native-lang-dev] Migration of OOo mailing lists to Apache

The legacy OpenOffice.org servers have been hosted by Oracle.  These
servers will soon be shut down.  We are working to re-host the most
important websites and services at Apache.  This includes the most
critical mailing lists.

We are sending notes to the individual mailing lists, inviting them to
join the matching Apache OpenOffice lists.  You can read a copy of this
email here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Email+Migration+Po
st

As you can see, this email is in English.  We would like to send a
similar note, translated into the native language, for the various NLC
project lists.	We need help with these translations and with helping
subscribers migrate over to the Apache list infrastructure.  

If you can help with this, to be a liaison between an NLC project and
Apache OpenOffice, please let me know.

Thanks,

Rob (Apache OpenOffice.org (Incubating) Project Management Committee)
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[native-lang-dev] OpenOffice.org Product Roadmap: made by whom ? was: Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

Hi Sam,
> Do you have a concrete proposal?
yes, I have.

First, I do not have any problems with the Apache style of decision
making, lazy consensus sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I like that
style. This fits perfectly to the "meritocracy" principle.

My understanding is, that this principle is based on
* contributing individuals
* organizations/institutions contributing developers and/or money for
the infrastructure/governance, these organizations contribute because
they have derived products or other business around the regarding software.
So users are represented in this model by own work power or indirectly
by companies.
This principle has been proven to work quite well for many open source
projects.

I think this principle may get enhanced by enabling a non profit
organization to have their own resources on a project (This might fit
into the Apache philosophy considering this organization as an
contributing institution). I think this is necessary because there is
already a lot of business happening around OpenOffice, but most of these
businesses are just to small or have not the right expertise to execute
on the "meritocracy" principle.
So what the OOo project missed most was to have a path to get product
feature or tasks done (or just 4th level support) with the help of money
offered.

So my proposal is continue project decisions the Apache Style but also
to find a framework to make product decisions in a manner that also the
concerns of Users, local communities, QA, business partners, etc. get
honored. This framework also should enable to collect money so that
development (committer) resources can be found to get the issues
addressed in an equitable process.

We already have thousands of feature requests and enhancements in the
queue, we are putting a new bunch of requirements on top of it through
the current transition to Apache, I think we should seek the power of
_all_ OOo communities, users and businesses to achieve significant
growth to make OOo a better and successful product. And I did not even
included wishes like ODF Viewers, mobile and Cloud services around OOo.

My offer is to develop (with all concerned parties) a new charter for
all the groups mentioned above (as a successor of the Community Council
Charter) and enable the project to have own development resources. The
non profit organization Team OpenOffice.org e.V. played in the past just
the role of being the cash box of the CC in a quite defensive way
(http://download.openoffice.org/contribute.html, will you find the path
to donate ??), now Team OOo is preparing to offer a link between
business, communities, users and developers to enable growth on the new
futile ground we are now moving on.

Martin

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[native-lang-dev] L10N delivery deadline

Hello,
I see on Wiki that deadline is targeted to 04/27/2011.
In french language, we have many strings not translated for 3.4 release.
I had open issue #117851 but still unconfirmed.
What is the process to make a good localization?

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[native-lang-dev] New Project Lead role for the Chinese (Traditional) Native-Language team

Dear All,

I would like to officially welcome Imacat in her new project lead role 
for the zh-tw OOo native language team.

@Stefan/Louis: can you please grant her project lead permissions 
including admin access to the zh.openoffice.org web pages?
For Chinese the zh.openoffice.org home page is a single point that hosts 
the links to the Chinese (Simplified) and Chinese (Traditional) pages.
Imacat will take care of the maintenance of the Traditional Chinese ones.

For the more dynamic content, I'd suggest the usage of the 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Zh-TW .

Thank you in advance for all your efforts!

Kind Regards,
Rafaella

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[native-lang-dev] BugZilla: Lost old canconfirm-rights re-activated

Hi,
the old canconfirm-rights in IssueZilla were re-activated on the new 
BugZilla. Means in detail, everyone within the old granted 
canconfirm-group should be enabled to edit every bug on the 
Kenai-BugZilla instance. If you have any issues please let me know,

Thank you,
Frank
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[native-lang-dev] ssh2key submission for webcontent commits

Hi,

I have been asked where one would submit his ssh2key nowadays with the 
new infrastructure in place.

The quick answer is that there is no key needed if you use your 
project's SVN webcontent repository via the https URL.

e.g. you can checkout and commit with your username/password via
https://svn.openoffice.org/svn/de~webcontent or
https://svn.openoffice.org/svn/nl~webcontent or...

If you really prefer to work without password but with public key 
instead you need to add your public key to your profile
http://openoffice.org/projects/help/pages/ProfileSettings#SSH_Keys

Greetings
Stefan
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[native-lang-dev] French FAQ added - should be moved to the "right" subpage

This new French FAQ was added on the OOo Wiki

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Comment_ajouter_une_police_dans_OpenOffice

It should be moved to the "right" subpage in the FR/Documentation area - 
I'd do it myself, but I don't know the structure used on the FR FAQ pages.

C.
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[native-lang-dev] Changes in Finnish native lang team

Hi!

From now on the Finnish native lang team and localization effort of OOo will 
be lead by Risto Jääskeläinen (ristoi). We have handled these tasks together 
with Risto since last summer but I no longer have enough time to do this 
properly. We have been trying to find a co-lead for Risto but so far nobody 
has stepped up.

It would be great if someone with proper rights would update
  http://projects.openoffice.org/native-lang.html
to reflect the situation. It still lists Asmo and Marko as the project leads 
but that has not been effectively true for a few years.

Thanks,
Harri
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[native-lang-dev] Sinhala missing OpenOffice 3.3.0