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CPHennessy | 17 Apr 2006 12:55
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Re: oo202 bugs

On Sat April 15 2006 19:26, + Lucas Momparler wrote:
> ok, thak you: issue 1578 named as "Low resolution formula images in HTML"

As you are not subscribed you may not have seen that:
On Sun April 16 2006 12:43, Tomas Lanczos wrote:
> > From: Lucas Momparler [mailto:lucas665 <at> gmail.com]
> >
> > ok, thak you: issue 1578 named as "Low resolution formula
> > images in HTML"
>
> It's not a bug, IMHO. Just select gif images instead of jpg. Jpg is
> definitely not appropriate for any pictures where high contrast is required
> like text, formulas, graphs, etc., it was created for photos to save space
> on the disk.  If You will make jpg export from ANY application, the output
> will look as same.
>

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CPHennessy | 17 Apr 2006 12:57
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Re: bug with recovery window

On Mon March 20 2006 12:53, + jrsch wrote:
>  [ MODERATED ] ***********************
> 1. Using my laptop with 1024x768 pixel the recovery screen
> (Wiederherstellung) is so large, that I cannot see the base line to click
> the buttons.
>
> 2. the crash report doesnt work, but crashes itself. (I didn't follow the
> problem.)
>
>
> using OO0 2.0.1 german on win98

Hi Hoorst,
 can you please upgrade to 2.0.2 to see if the problem still persists.

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Fusco | 17 Apr 2006 15:25
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One small suggestion

Ladies and Gentlemen of the Open Office Community:

This may seem like a small suggestion, but for those of us who use word 
processing software almost exclusively in their day to day affairs, it 
is almost an essential for productivity.

In "Writer" it seems a bit cumbersome and confusing to format an 
envelope.  Rather than have it a function of "insertion" you might 
consider it a separate function altogether under "Format".  In addition, 
while not exactly necessary, to ensure timely delivery of mail the 
addition of a postal bar code is an effective complement to the regular 
address.  There should be some provision for placing the appropriate 
code above the addressee's information.

As a writer I will tell you this:  OpenOffice is an excellent word 
processing program. In fact it is perhaps the best I have ever used, and 
I have used pretty much all of them from WordStar on my Osborne 1 in 
1982 through every iteration of Word and Word Perfect on succeeding 
machines.  I have an instinctive appreciation for ease of writing, 
running streams of consciousness through a couple of fingers into a 
computer.  It is one thing to work in a business atmosphere typing 
whatever is necessary for the smooth operation thereof, but when your 
entire life is wrapped up in a particular turn of the phrase stopping to 
fool with your word processor is anathema to the process.

Best regards,

Peter Fusco
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Ingvar Langlet | 17 Apr 2006 17:19
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introduction of any files into theletter form.

    The e-mail part of OpenOfffice  lacks some properties I find
    important. I would like to be able to compose e-mail messages as
    separate files to be placed into the email form when convenient. I
    would also like to be able to put any other files as messages into
    the e-mail form. When the "delivery notofication status" infoms me
    that an e-mail has falied  by a typo in the address or for other
    reasons I would like to have the e-mail back in the e-mail form so 
    I immediately can correct the error(s) and send it again..

    The only opportunity to place a common file as the message text I
    have seen  is in the first pulldown menu in the text form of
    OpenOffice where I find one heading "send". andin the next pulldon
    menu I find "documet as e-mail". When i tried this, nothing
    happened. I think something should be set in some nonstandard way
    but I have not found this something.

    I would lke to have file opening mechanism in the lettr form like
    that in the OpenOffice Write and with an opportunity to place any of
    thedisplayed files as the mesage text in a letter form where it can
    be edited.

    I am Yours Sincerely

    Ingvar Langlet

    e-mail:  i.lt <at> telia.com
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Andrew Robertson | 17 Apr 2006 18:15

RE: Email Tool

<<<there is no need as http://mozilla.org has Thunderbird for email and Sunbird
for Calendaring. Sunbird may not be complete yet but is getting closer all of
the time.>>>

Sorry, I have to COMPLETELY disagree with you. Thunderbird with the Calendar or Lightning add-in and
Sunbird are excellent applications, for the casual home user. They do not even hold a candle to the
features and office productivity of Outlook. I hate M$, but Outlook is actually a GREAT program. Although
it can be difficult to use for a beginner or someone who does not need all it's features, in an office
environment, it is an incredible asset. There are several drawbacks such as it's sharing abilities and
proprietary nature, which is why so many of us are looking for an alternative built into OOo.
To say "There is no need as http://Mozilla.org has Thunderbird/Sunbird" is like saying "There is no need
for today's modern houses since there are caves we can live in instead." You are comparing a fairly simple
email and calendaring app to a sophisticated PIM. I just recently installed Linux and Evolution at home,
and Evolution is close, but not fully there, especially considering there is no Windows version yet.
There is a group supposedly working on it, but they haven't made any progress on the port for over a year. 
However, there is hope on the horizon; http://chandler.osafoundation.org/ is a promising PIM that looks
like it will be equal to or better than Outlook. They are focusing on the Calendar aspect right now, with
Task Management and Email to follow. If OOo can get together with them NOW, and begin a tight integration,
then Chandler and OpenOffice together will make a complete package that rivals M$ Office in EVERY way.
OOo either needs to make it's own PIM that is as good or better than M$, or work with someone who already is
working on it, like the folks at OSAF and Chandler. If Chandler will as fully integrated with OOo as Outlook
is with M$ Office, they will be able to stand against M$ Office in the workplace. Until then, it's no dice,
and OOo is primarily a "Home User" office suite. Without a PIM, it is too cumbersome to replace M$ Office in
the workplace environment IF that environment is already using and reliant on Outlook and M$ Office. And
the sad news is, many are. The good news is many of them will switch if OOo has a PIM equivalent to Outlook.
Sincerely,
Andrew Robertson
derma e(r) Natural Bodycare
Export Manager
Ph. 805-582-2710 xt. 244
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Andrew Robertson | 17 Apr 2006 18:19

RE: Email Tool

****Sorry about the formatting in the last post, here is a cleaned up version****

<<<there is no need as http://mozilla.org has Thunderbird for email and Sunbird for Calendaring. Sunbird
may not be complete yet but is getting closer all of the time.>>>

Sorry, I have to COMPLETELY disagree with you. Thunderbird with the Calendar or Lightning add-in and
Sunbird are excellent applications, for the casual home user. They do not even hold a candle to the
features and office productivity of Outlook. I hate M$, but Outlook is actually a GREAT program. Although
it can be difficult to use for a beginner or someone who does not need all it's features, in an office
environment, it is an incredible asset. There are several drawbacks such as it's sharing abilities and
proprietary nature, which is why so many of us are looking for an alternative built into OOo.

To say "There is no need as http://Mozilla.org has Thunderbird/Sunbird" is like saying "There is no need
for today's modern houses since there are caves we can live in instead." You are comparing a fairly simple
email and calendaring app to a sophisticated PIM. I just recently installed Linux and Evolution at home,
and Evolution is close, but not fully there, especially considering there is no Windows version yet.
There is a group supposedly working on it, but they haven't made any progress on the port for over a year.

However, there is hope on the horizon; http://chandler.osafoundation.org/ is a promising PIM that looks
like it will be equal to or better than Outlook. They are focusing on the Calendar aspect right now, with
Task Management and Email to follow. If OOo can get together with them NOW, and begin a tight integration,
then Chandler and OpenOffice together will make a complete package that rivals M$ Office in EVERY way.

OOo either needs to make it's own PIM that is as good or better than M$, or work with someone who already is
working on it, like the folks at OSAF and Chandler. If Chandler will as fully integrated with OOo as Outlook
is with M$ Office, they will be able to stand against M$ Office in the workplace. Until then, it's no dice,
and OOo is primarily a "Home User" office suite. Without a PIM, it is too cumbersome to replace M$ Office in
the workplace environment IF that environment is already using and reliant on Outlook and M$ Office. And
the sad news is, many are. The good news is many of them will switch if OOo has a PIM equivalent to Outlook.
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Ian Lynch | 17 Apr 2006 18:27

RE: Email Tool

On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 09:15 -0700, Andrew Robertson wrote:
>  The good news is many of them will switch if OOo has a PIM equivalent
> to Outlook.

According to the theories of disruptive innovation, it would not
necessarily have to be better than Outlook or even as good as. It needs
to be good enough for the majority of users at least initially. It can
then gradually be improved taking more and more people with it as the
improvements are made. So to me the best strategy would be to get
something that fundamentally works as quickly as possible and then add
bells and whistles as time goes on.

But I agree getting something integrated with OOo on the PIM side of
things will help marketing
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Jonathon Blake | 17 Apr 2006 18:32
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Re: Email Tool

Andrew wrote:

>which is why so many of us are looking for an alternative built into OOo.

Once upon a time, I would have agreed with you.

However,  given that the FLOSS equivalent to Outlook is no longer
being developed, due to lack of interest,  I suspect that claims of no
alternative to Outlook is nothing more than an excuse to not migrate.

[And no, the Outlook equivalent I am talking about is not Mozilla/
thunderbird-firefox-sunbird, but a single program that performs all of
the functions of Outlook.]

> OOo either needs to make it's own PIM that is as good or better than M$,

I'll point out that Google is working on an integrated web office that
promises to be better than Microsoft. The current version includes a
calender function.

>Without a PIM, it is too cumbersome to replace M$ Office in the
workplace environment IF that environment is already using and reliant
on Outlook

I can convert your Office to FLOSS overnight, with calender/PIM
functions that make Outlooks seem like the stone age.   There will be
a slight learning curve, in how to use the program, but  more because
the users never learned how to use their software in the first place,
than because it is "difficult" to use.
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Alexandro Colorado | 17 Apr 2006 21:30
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Re: Email Tool

On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:15:37 -0400, Andrew Robertson <ar <at> dermae.net> wrote:

> Sorry, I have to COMPLETELY disagree with you. Thunderbird with the  
> Calendar or Lightning add-in and Sunbird are excellent applications, for  
> the casual home user. They do not even hold a candle to the features and  
> office productivity of Outlook.

So what makes you think that the email feature in OOo will do that?

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