Sam Hiser | 3 Nov 2005 20:08
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Rough Transcriptions of Highlights from the Berkman Center discussion

Bob-

You were struggling remembering what you said there. Here's the first-
half highlights...

"Open-Standard Deja Vu at Harvard's Berkman Center"
http://www.PlexNex.com

-Sam

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Cor Nouws | 3 Nov 2005 20:33
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Re: Re ZDNet article

Ian Lynch wrote:

> Slowness in general is partly to do with XML parsing. Slowness compared
> to Excel is not to do with XML parsing alone but the way in which OOo
> does it. Both Excel and OOo could be made faster if they didn't have to
> parse XML and had some form of optimised binary description of the data.
> There are therefore additional factors about OOo that also slow it down
> further. 
> 
> We have already had this discussion several times. 3.0 should
> concentrate the development effort on reducing the size of the OOo code
> foot print, speeding up starting OOo and speeding up opening and saving
> files. When these factors are fully optimised then think about adding
> features.
> 
Agree with that. Beside a few exceptions maybe.

Cor

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Mathias Bauer | 3 Nov 2005 23:28
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Re: Re: OOo 2.0 - Multiuser Installation for Win 98/ME?

Stephen Bauman wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:37:32 +0200, Mathias Bauer wrote:
> 
>> There shouldn't be any special treatment. Install OOo right away. If any
>> of your users starts OOo the first time a user profile will be created
>> automatically and the startup wizard is used to collect some information.
>>
>> "-net" is not necessary anymore, it's the only way now, and the second
>> installation step you found in OOo1.x is now part of the first application
>> start. System integration is now done in the program installation step so
>> you need admin rights for a complete integration, but that shouldn't be an
>> issue on Win ME.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> That appears to work. The only problem is that there is no addition to the
> menu for new users. I had to alter their menus manually.

Strange. At least on WinXP this isn't necessary, OOo writes the start
menu entries to "All Users" so that *every* user will get them. Maybe
this is special to Win ME?

Ciao,
Mathias

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Rick | 4 Nov 2005 01:14
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RE: ACCOUNTING MODULE

I went to NETSUITE home page, but it doesn't present a concise view of its
software and, especially, prices. It all seems a bit obscure. Do you have
any details as to cost of components, etc.? Rick 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Kingsnorth [mailto:steve <at> woodentops.co.uk] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2005 8:51 am
> To: discuss <at> openoffice.org
> Subject: [discuss] ACCOUNTING MODULE
> 
> I've not used OpenOffice and have only come across it very 
> recently but I have come across Netsuite, which I was very 
> impressed with. Is OpenOffice planning to add a full accounting suite?
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> Steve Kingsnorth
> Director
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Jeffrey W. Jensen | 3 Nov 2005 22:59

The .odt file format

I really love the idea of OpenOffice and so far I love using the 
software.  Here is one thing that concerns me:  In order to use certain 
features, such as hyperlinks to other documents on my hard disk (which I 
use extensively with my client files) I must save in .odt.   I notice 
that Microsoft Office cannot open .odt files.  I do not plan on going 
back but what happens in the future if the OpenOffice project fizzles 
out for some reason.   This is supposed to be a "cross platform" and 
universal file format but, so far, the only program I have found that 
opens it is OpenOffice.

Please advise.
Daniel Carrera | 4 Nov 2005 02:44

Re: The .odt file format

Hello Jeffrey,

OpenDocument is supported by OpenOffice, StarOffice, IBM Workplace, 
KOffice, Abiword and we know that Corel (Word Perfect) and Gnumeric are 
working towards supporting it. There are also projects to add a plugin 
for MS Office to read and write OpenDocument files.

In addition, because the format is open, well documented, and actually 
quite understandable (for someone who knows XML), you are guaranteed to 
never lose your data.

Try this experiment:
1. Change the file extension to .zip
2. Unzip the file (yes, OpenDocument files are just zip files).
3. Grab Notepad and open the file called 'content.xml'
4. Scroll some ways down and you'll see all the document content.

There. As long as we still have text editors around, it will always be 
possible to extract the content of the file :-)

Cheers,
Daniel.

Jeffrey W. Jensen wrote:
> I really love the idea of OpenOffice and so far I love using the 
> software.  Here is one thing that concerns me:  In order to use certain 
> features, such as hyperlinks to other documents on my hard disk (which I 
> use extensively with my client files) I must save in .odt.   I notice 
> that Microsoft Office cannot open .odt files.  I do not plan on going 
> back but what happens in the future if the OpenOffice project fizzles 
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Paul | 4 Nov 2005 02:46
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Re: The .odt file format

Can't see OOo fizzling, but understand your caution. The benefit of
saving in ODT however is that it is an open and documented format.
Even if OOo fails, there are other tools (and many more to come) that
will be able to read the ODT format.

As a last resort, you can of course open the file using uncompression
software and read the plain text file yourself.

More practically, you can of course use hyperlinks and then save the
document in either .html or .doc format. Both preserve hyperlinks that
are created in OOo.

/paul

On 11/4/05, Jeffrey W. Jensen <jeffreywjensen <at> jensendefense.com> wrote:
> I really love the idea of OpenOffice and so far I love using the
> software.  Here is one thing that concerns me:  In order to use certain
> features, such as hyperlinks to other documents on my hard disk (which I
> use extensively with my client files) I must save in .odt.   I notice
> that Microsoft Office cannot open .odt files.  I do not plan on going
> back but what happens in the future if the OpenOffice project fizzles
> out for some reason.   This is supposed to be a "cross platform" and
> universal file format but, so far, the only program I have found that
> opens it is OpenOffice.
>
> Please advise.
>
>
>
>
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