Matt Barber | 1 May 2010 07:21
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Re: bit crusher abstraction

Attached is a file with the three different formulas I gave last time
for two-bit quantization, just for illustration -- any of these could
work as a general bit-crusher with a little extra effort.  Number one
has a variant you can toggle on or off.  Also notice how positive
max-amp is an exception in numbers one and three -- it can be clipped
out though.

Matt

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Matt Barber <brbrofsvl <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Reduced bit depth (which is what I think 'bit-crushing' means)  can be
>>> achieved by dividing the signal by x, pass it through something like
>>> [int~], multiply it by x again. An [int~] can be implemented by using
>>> [wrap~] and [-~], which are both vanilla.
>>
>> It is also worth considering adding a DC offset. Your [wrap~] solution
>> implements a floor-function, that is, rounding downwards. You can make it
>> round to closest, by adding x/2 before rounding downwards.
>>
>> [expr int($v1)] is rounding zerowards (thus output zero corresponds to a
>> twice bigger input range as any other input). Thus it will behave in a
>> weird unequal way.
>>
>> When the volume gets low, the _effective_ bits-per-sample gets very low,
>> because the relative precision of integers is proportional to amplitude
>> (which is not the case with floats). Therefore, even with 16-bit audio, if
>> your amplitude is 0.0001 times the max, it will feel as if it were 3-bit
>> audio. In such circumstances, the differences between the possible
>> roundings will become quite audible.
>
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Abraao Alcantara | 1 May 2010 20:36
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Re: plugin~ help broken

Sorry replying myself, but this issue is happening just with me?
It would be nice if i can use ladspa effects in pd...

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Derek Holzer | 1 May 2010 20:50
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Re: plugin~ help broken

Please check the list archives, [plugin~] is usable if LADSPAs are  
configured correctly. It is stupid that it crashes Pd if you don't  
have the plugins specified in the help patch, but no one seems  
interested in fixing that. I posted on this several years ago, and  
also quite recently. Workarounds can be found in both threads.

D.

On 5/1/10 2:36 PM, Abraao Alcantara wrote:
> Sorry replying myself, but this issue is happening just with me?
> It would be nice if i can use ladspa effects in pd...

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Emerson Aagaard | 1 May 2010 22:04
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pd-extended on Ubuntu 9.10

Hello all,

I'm somewhat new to Linux: I've been using it for about a year, but not very "heavily" (no development type stuff or anything), and I've also been using pd for awhile. I'm using Ubuntu 9.10, by the way. I wanted to install pd-extended, but it depends on libmagick++1 and libmagickcore1 but neither of these are installable. I'm not really sure how to remedy this, and I can't really find anything in any forums about this, so I would appreciate some help. Let me know if there's any additional information I need to provide.

Emerson

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Ricardo Lameiro | 1 May 2010 23:15
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Re: pd-extended on Ubuntu 9.10

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/

has versions for ubuntu 9.10

2010/5/1 Emerson Aagaard <emerson.aagaard <at> gmail.com>
Hello all,

I'm somewhat new to Linux: I've been using it for about a year, but not very "heavily" (no development type stuff or anything), and I've also been using pd for awhile. I'm using Ubuntu 9.10, by the way. I wanted to install pd-extended, but it depends on libmagick++1 and libmagickcore1 but neither of these are installable. I'm not really sure how to remedy this, and I can't really find anything in any forums about this, so I would appreciate some help. Let me know if there's any additional information I need to provide.

Emerson
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Pierre Massat | 2 May 2010 14:37
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Gigs with Pd

Hello everyone!

There was a discussion not too long ago about suitability of Pd in a live context (off the "smoother audio" thread i think). I just wanted to say that i use Pd everytime i play a gig with my band as a super multi effects. I have never experienced any crash in Pd, and the sound is just excellent, and everybody keeps asking me what the hell are these pedals and this software and how the eff do i make all these sounds, and well, i just think this is the future. I m just hoping that sometime soon we'll have a piece of hardware that's small and powerful enough to run Pd in realtime and I'll have the perfect gear (perfect for me).
Just wanted to share this.

Cheers!

Pierre

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András Murányi | 2 May 2010 17:55
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Ever divorce from Tcl/Tk? (Was Re: puredata_gui_design)


2010/4/17 Mathieu Bouchard <matju <at> artengine.ca>
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, András Murányi wrote:

One (hard) aspect of GUI design in case of Pd is that the GUI widgets are provided by Tcl/Tk at the moment, which does not allow for such kind of skinning, afaik.

Tcl/Tk up to 8.4 allow some amount of configuration... at least much more than has ever been used by anyone in pd.tk.

Tcl/Tk introduced the TkTile toolkit, for which I've heard that the big new feature is that you can skin it. I haven't tried it myself. Meanwhile, I'm using Pd-Extended with Tcl/Tk 8.5 while, officially, this very same version of Pd-Extended is said to "not support" Tcl/Tk 8.5. On top of that, Miller still wants to support Tcl/Tk 8.3 for some upcoming releases, and such things that were already becoming obsolete in 2003.


There has been talk, however, about migrating to another GUI toolkit.

Talk, talk, talk, it's only talk.
Arguments, babble, bicker bicker bicker, brouhaha, it's only talk.

 
Well, lets be happy we have this wonderful ability to articulate words... ;o)
As it has been mentioned, "anyone" can start porting Pd to another toolkit. The question for me here is, if Miller, Hans, and other core people are interested in leaving Tcl/Tk behind, and if yes, how soon?

Andras
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Pedro Lopes | 2 May 2010 18:21
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Re: Gigs with Pd

>I m just hoping that sometime soon we'll have a piece of hardware >that's small and powerful enough to run Pd in realtime and I'll have >the perfect gear (perfect for me).

http://www.bluemelon.org/index.php/Products/BM7505_BluePD_programmable_Pure_Data_router

Never tried it though... seems interesting.


On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Pierre Massat <pimassat <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone!

There was a discussion not too long ago about suitability of Pd in a live context (off the "smoother audio" thread i think). I just wanted to say that i use Pd everytime i play a gig with my band as a super multi effects. I have never experienced any crash in Pd, and the sound is just excellent, and everybody keeps asking me what the hell are these pedals and this software and how the eff do i make all these sounds, and well, i just think this is the future. I m just hoping that sometime soon we'll have a piece of hardware that's small and powerful enough to run Pd in realtime and I'll have the perfect gear (perfect for me).
Just wanted to share this.

Cheers!

Pierre

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Mathieu Bouchard | 2 May 2010 19:12
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Re: Gigs with Pd

On Sun, 2 May 2010, Pedro Lopes wrote:

> >I m just hoping that sometime soon we'll have a piece of hardware >that's small and powerful enough to run
Pd in realtime and I'll have >the perfect
> gear (perfect for me).
> http://www.bluemelon.org/index.php/Products/BM7505_BluePD_programmable_Pure_Data_router
> Never tried it though... seems interesting.

See also homemade http://www.workinprogress.ca/biscuit-box-computer/
by Patrick S Coulombe.

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Mathieu Bouchard | 2 May 2010 19:34
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Re: Ever divorce from Tcl/Tk? (Was Re: puredata_gui_design)

On Sun, 2 May 2010, András Murányi wrote:

> As it has been mentioned, "anyone" can start porting Pd to another 
> toolkit.

Why would you care, that an unspecified person said "anyone" "can" do 
"whatever" on pd-list ? It isn't a sign of anything. Why don't you instead 
think about why the project really matters, and about what is needed to 
succeed at the task ?

> The question for me here is, if Miller, Hans, and other core people are 
> interested in leaving Tcl/Tk behind, and if yes, how soon?

If anyone cared, there would be a prototype already.

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