Hans-Christoph Steiner | 1 Jul 01:16 2009
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Re: pd-extended on Fedora 10


On Jun 30, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Jeff Sandys wrote:

> adrian.g said:
>> I was just wandering if the pd-extended for Fedora 9/PlanetCCRMA  
>> would
>> be compatible with Fedora 10PlanetCCRMA?
>
> Yes.  Just download the file and install per the instructions at:
>    http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
> except change the tar and cd commands to match the file name.
>
> The text size is OK in 41.4-extended-rc4 and if you use the prefix  
> option
> as listed you won't overwrite the PlanetCCRMA PD 39.3 version.
>
> I didn't get the error messages about xmms and mysqlclient15 with this
> method, you may want to try installing xmms-devel instead of xmms- 
> dev ...
>
> Since Fedora 9 is at the end of life I hope that Hans-Christoph can  
> move
> to Fedora 10 or just skip to Fedora 11 once CCRMA lands there.

It would be great to support Fedora better, but I am not the one to do  
it.  I never use Fedora, except to  keep that one machine alive.   
Someone could set up a machine and use the nightly build scripts, or  
you can easily run the auto-builds on your own machine.

.hc
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Jaime Oliver | 1 Jul 09:25 2009
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Re: usb soundcard linux

Hey Vasja,

thanks a lot  for the info, I'll check it out.
I am copying this message to the list so that it is available.

best,

J

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:54 AM, vasja <vasja.progar <at> gmail.com> wrote:
hey,

i'm replying to your post on pd/list.
I have an ESI U24XL card, works perfect in Ubuntu Hardy and Ubuntu Hardy studio. Has only 2 ins and 2 outs though.
now i'm looking for a multichannel cards; particulary interesting to me seem:

ESI ESU 1808
EDIROL UA-101
TASCAM US-1641

don't know about tascam, but esi and edirol ussualy have a quite nice support in our beloved os.
i'll probably end up buying the low-price (350-400 eur in europe) 18in8out (hm, guess that should suffice for some time) ESI, so i can let you know if it works ok (can take some time though, i'm not all-that-comfortable with money...).

anyway, if you too come across anything interesting (that is: if you find a nice usb card that also works really nice in linux),  please let me know!


best regards,

Vasja Progar
Slovenia


p.s.: my small esi really works fine - playback and recording aok, latency 10ms +/- 2 tested in pd (but as far as i know the usb protocol, it's about the smallest you can get anyway)

oh, and another thing: i owned an m-audio audiophile usb; disasterous! don't try, i'd say...



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Frank Barknecht | 1 Jul 10:07 2009

Re: usb soundcard linux

Hallo,

the cards listed below are USB 2 cards, so don't expect them to be supported on
Linux yet. It is likely that they at least require a lot of effort (kernel
fiddling, using "beta" source code etc.) and may not even work after that.

You have been warned. ;)

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Jaime Oliver hat gesagt: // Jaime Oliver wrote:

> thanks a lot  for the info, I'll check it out.
> I am copying this message to the list so that it is available.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:54 AM, vasja <vasja.progar <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > hey,
> >
> > i'm replying to your post on pd/list.
> > I have an ESI U24XL card, works perfect in Ubuntu Hardy and Ubuntu Hardy
> > studio. Has only 2 ins and 2 outs though.
> > now i'm looking for a multichannel cards; particulary interesting to me
> > seem:
> >
> > *ESI ESU 1808
> > **EDIROL UA-101
> > **TASCAM US-1641
> >
> > *don't know about tascam, but esi and edirol ussualy have a quite nice
> > support in our beloved os.
> > i'll probably end up buying the low-price (350-400 eur in europe) 18in8out
> > (hm, guess that should suffice for some time) ESI, so i can let you know if
> > it works ok (can take some time though, i'm not all-that-comfortable with
> > money...).
> >
> > anyway, if you too come across anything interesting (that is: if you find a
> > nice usb card that also works really nice in linux),  please let me know!
> >
> >
> > best regards,
> >
> > Vasja Progar
> > Slovenia
> >
> >
> > p.s.: my small esi really works fine - playback and recording aok, latency
> > 10ms +/- 2 tested in pd (but as far as i know the usb protocol, it's about
> > the smallest you can get anyway)
> >
> > oh, and another thing: i owned an m-audio audiophile usb; disasterous!
> > don't try, i'd say...
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
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> www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver
> www-crca.ucsd.edu/
> www.realidadvisual.org
> 
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IOhannes m zmoelnig | 1 Jul 10:17 2009
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[ot] Re: usb soundcard linux

Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Hallo,
> 
> the cards listed below are USB 2 cards, so don't expect them to be supported on
> Linux yet. It is likely that they at least require a lot of effort (kernel
> fiddling, using "beta" source code etc.) and may not even work after that.
> 
> You have been warned. ;)

a good starting point is of course the alsa compatibility list:

http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main

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Mike Mazarick | 1 Jul 15:30 2009
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What does it take to do 64 bit?

I am running a Fedora linux x86_64 linux distribution (currently, FC8 CCRMA x86_64, with plans to go to FC11 later).   I don’t mind compiling from sources, but I seem vaguely aware that PD is primarily for 32 bit architectures.   The 64 bit version is not easily downloadable in an RPM package, which tells me something.

 

Is PD 64 bit compatible without having to jump thru too many hoops?   I haven’t been following the thread closely enough to know the current answer.   I don’t think it has been explicitly stated whether it is “64 bit friendly” since the upgrade in the code a few weeks/months ago.

 

If I have to run some type of chroot ‘jail’ to run it, it would be nice to know (however, it will be a while before I am motivated enough to set it all up).

 

-Mike Mazarick

 

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Hans-Christoph Steiner | 1 Jul 15:49 2009
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Re: portaudio compatibility with some ASIO drivers (Windows only)


Maybe its due to the version of ASIO in use?  I just upgraded the build farm to use ASIO 2.2, so nightly builds of Pd-extended are using that.

.hc

On Jun 30, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Stefano Papetti wrote:

Hello,

I noticed that pd (at least recent versions of both vanilla and extended) and other portaudio-based applications (e.g. Audacity) don't see some ASIO drivers: namely, the RME Fireface 800 and REAPER's ReaRoute ASIO drivers.

I found several posts in different forums around about both issues, and I've drawn the following conclusions:
- the RME ASIO driver simply doesn't work, and nobody actually knows why... However some people report to get ultra-low latencies (3ms) with the MMIO drivers. Moreover, even with the MMIO driver they can use the multi-channel capability of the RME only when set at 48000 Hz (but this is another story...). I will ask RME directly about these issues.
- the ReaRoute ASIO driver is blacklisted by portaudio (as of v19) and therefore discarded...
The latter is my most urgent problem because I need to route audio from pd to REAPER with the lowest possible latency/cpu load.
Please help!

Thanks,
S
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Hans-Christoph Steiner | 1 Jul 15:46 2009
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Re: What does it take to do 64 bit?


If you build it from source, it should be ready to go, especially if you build it from trunk.  There isn't a 64-bit build machine, so that's why there aren't Pd-extended 64-bit releases.

.hc

On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:30 AM, Mike Mazarick wrote:

I am running a Fedora linux x86_64 linux distribution (currently, FC8 CCRMA x86_64, with plans to go to FC11 later).   I don’t mind compiling from sources, but I seem vaguely aware that PD is primarily for 32 bit architectures.   The 64 bit version is not easily downloadable in an RPM package, which tells me something.

 

Is PD 64 bit compatible without having to jump thru too many hoops?   I haven’t been following the thread closely enough to know the current answer.   I don’t think it has been explicitly stated whether it is “64 bit friendly” since the upgrade in the code a few weeks/months ago.

 

If I have to run some type of chroot ‘jail’ to run it, it would be nice to know (however, it will be a while before I am motivated enough to set it all up).

 

-Mike Mazarick

 

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Stefano Papetti | 1 Jul 16:21 2009
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Re: portaudio compatibility with some ASIO drivers (Windows only)

hi Hans-Christoph,

I found that in the svn version of portaudio (namely in pa_asio.ccp) the driver ReaRoute ASIO is not blacklisted anymore (as committed by Ross Bencina on June 16), so I think that it will be nice to re-compile pd against it. Do you think it's not reliable enough compared to the standard v19?

Anyway I'll give the nightly builds a try, thanks. That should improve general ASIO performance of already working devices.

Best,
S


Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto:

Maybe its due to the version of ASIO in use?  I just upgraded the build farm to use ASIO 2.2, so nightly builds of Pd-extended are using that.

.hc

On Jun 30, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Stefano Papetti wrote:

Hello,

I noticed that pd (at least recent versions of both vanilla and extended) and other portaudio-based applications (e.g. Audacity) don't see some ASIO drivers: namely, the RME Fireface 800 and REAPER's ReaRoute ASIO drivers.

I found several posts in different forums around about both issues, and I've drawn the following conclusions:
- the RME ASIO driver simply doesn't work, and nobody actually knows why... However some people report to get ultra-low latencies (3ms) with the MMIO drivers. Moreover, even with the MMIO driver they can use the multi-channel capability of the RME only when set at 48000 Hz (but this is another story...). I will ask RME directly about these issues.
- the ReaRoute ASIO driver is blacklisted by portaudio (as of v19) and therefore discarded...
The latter is my most urgent problem because I need to route audio from pd to REAPER with the lowest possible latency/cpu load.
Please help!

Thanks,
S
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Hans-Christoph Steiner | 1 Jul 17:20 2009
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Re: portaudio compatibility with some ASIO drivers (Windows only)


I haven't touched portaudio stuff so I don't know what to say there, perhaps someone else can say something about that.

.hc

On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Stefano Papetti wrote:

hi Hans-Christoph,

I found that in the svn version of portaudio (namely in pa_asio.ccp) the driver ReaRoute ASIO is not blacklisted anymore (as committed by Ross Bencina on June 16), so I think that it will be nice to re-compile pd against it. Do you think it's not reliable enough compared to the standard v19?

Anyway I'll give the nightly builds a try, thanks. That should improve general ASIO performance of already working devices.

Best,
S


Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto:

Maybe its due to the version of ASIO in use?  I just upgraded the build farm to use ASIO 2.2, so nightly builds of Pd-extended are using that.

.hc

On Jun 30, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Stefano Papetti wrote:

Hello,

I noticed that pd (at least recent versions of both vanilla and extended) and other portaudio-based applications (e.g. Audacity) don't see some ASIO drivers: namely, the RME Fireface 800 and REAPER's ReaRoute ASIO drivers.

I found several posts in different forums around about both issues, and I've drawn the following conclusions:
- the RME ASIO driver simply doesn't work, and nobody actually knows why... However some people report to get ultra-low latencies (3ms) with the MMIO drivers. Moreover, even with the MMIO driver they can use the multi-channel capability of the RME only when set at 48000 Hz (but this is another story...). I will ask RME directly about these issues.
- the ReaRoute ASIO driver is blacklisted by portaudio (as of v19) and therefore discarded...
The latter is my most urgent problem because I need to route audio from pd to REAPER with the lowest possible latency/cpu load.
Please help!

Thanks,
S
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Stefano Papetti | 1 Jul 17:24 2009
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Re: portaudio compatibility with some ASIO drivers (Windows only)

Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto:

Maybe its due to the version of ASIO in use?  I just upgraded the build farm to use ASIO 2.2, so nightly builds of Pd-extended are using that.
I tried the latest autobuild of pd-extended 0.42-5 for windows but it doesn't work: after executing pd nothing happens and I don't even see the process pd.exe in task manager. I guess it just crashes.

S

.hc

On Jun 30, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Stefano Papetti wrote:

Hello,

I noticed that pd (at least recent versions of both vanilla and extended) and other portaudio-based applications (e.g. Audacity) don't see some ASIO drivers: namely, the RME Fireface 800 and REAPER's ReaRoute ASIO drivers.

I found several posts in different forums around about both issues, and I've drawn the following conclusions:
- the RME ASIO driver simply doesn't work, and nobody actually knows why... However some people report to get ultra-low latencies (3ms) with the MMIO drivers. Moreover, even with the MMIO driver they can use the multi-channel capability of the RME only when set at 48000 Hz (but this is another story...). I will ask RME directly about these issues.
- the ReaRoute ASIO driver is blacklisted by portaudio (as of v19) and therefore discarded...
The latter is my most urgent problem because I need to route audio from pd to REAPER with the lowest possible latency/cpu load.
Please help!

Thanks,
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