3 Nov 2006 19:59
4 Nov 2006 12:12
10 Nov 2006 19:18
Domain names forgeries
Cédric Corazza <cedric.corazza <at> gmail.com>
2006-11-10 18:18:25 GMT
2006-11-10 18:18:25 GMT
Hi, I know this is not new and even shared in several countries but we found sites pretending to offer official downloadings of Firefox (in France) and providing some Firefox + toolbar downloads. These sites all contain firefox or mozilla in their domain name and are even advertized by Google Adsense links! And they have also high ranks in Google searches... I think it's bad for a new user to not get the official release because this could spoil his web experience with Firefox. Is there someone at the MoCo in charge of that problem? Thanks Regards
13 Nov 2006 13:48
Re: Domain names forgeries
Gervase Markham <gerv <at> mozilla.org>
2006-11-13 12:48:58 GMT
2006-11-13 12:48:58 GMT
Cédric Corazza wrote: > I know this is not new and even shared in several countries but we found > sites pretending to offer official downloadings of Firefox (in France) > and providing some Firefox + toolbar downloads. > These sites all contain firefox or mozilla in their domain name and are > even advertized by Google Adsense links! And they have also high ranks > in Google searches... > I think it's bad for a new user to not get the official release because > this could spoil his web experience with Firefox. > Is there someone at the MoCo in charge of that problem? Please email the details to licensing <at> mozilla.org. Gerv
19 Nov 2006 05:09
Re: Copyright and translations
Axel Hecht <l10n <at> mozilla.com>
2006-11-19 04:09:45 GMT
2006-11-19 04:09:45 GMT
Nukeador wrote: > One of our collaborators in the Spanish MDC asked me a doubt related > with copyrighted articles and translations. > > As he explained, if the original author gave his permission to use it > in MDC, a translation is a derived work and also a correction is a > derived work too. > > Is that correct? > > In that case we could not neither translate nor modify these articles. > > Any idea? Gerv's comments on the status of translations of code would be that those are derivative works. CCing mozilla.legal, too. Just to clarify, we're talking about an author that would grant us permission to host his work on MDC, but wouldn't relicense it to CC by-sa? (Or the code to MIT?) In that case, I would expect that the answer depends on the license of the original document. For the ease of use and reuse, we should probably try and get documents in question relicensed, no matter which. Axel
21 Nov 2006 19:22
Reusing the MPL in non-Mozilla projects
Julien Ponge <julien.ponge <at> gmail.com>
2006-11-21 18:22:38 GMT
2006-11-21 18:22:38 GMT
Dear all, I am particularly interested in the MPL license for future projects, be it by applying the sole MPL or by applying a multi-licenses combo. I have searched a bit about using the MPL in non-Mozilla projects, but there are surprisingly not that many related informations... 1. Is the MPL a reusable license, or is its wording very tied to the Mozilla project? The CDDL was apprently created by Sun to be a reusable MPL-derivative, but I cannot clearly see how much this is accurate or not. 2. The license is bound by the laws of California (section 11), so how about projects started in non-US countries? 3. Does the Mozilla Foundation intend to promote its licensing model to other projects? I personnaly think that you should do that as the MPL is an excellent "middle-ground" license between the BSD/MIT/Apache and GPL licenses. In a way Apache did just that with the ASL v2. Thank you very much for your helpCheers -- Julien Ponge
22 Nov 2006 18:47
Re: Reusing the MPL in non-Mozilla projects
Frank Hecker <hecker <at> mozillafoundation.org>
2006-11-22 17:47:11 GMT
2006-11-22 17:47:11 GMT
Julien Ponge wrote: > I am particularly interested in the MPL license for future projects, be > it by applying the sole MPL or by applying a multi-licenses combo. I > have searched a bit about using the MPL in non-Mozilla projects, but > there are surprisingly not that many related informations... That's because most uses of the MPL in non-Mozilla projects have been in the form of MPL-derivative licenses, and not the MPL itself. > 1. Is the MPL a reusable license, or is its wording very tied to the > Mozilla project? The CDDL was apprently created by Sun to be a reusable > MPL-derivative, but I cannot clearly see how much this is accurate or > not. The MPL is sort of reusable, but in practice it hasn't been re-used that much in non-Mozilla projects. See below for more on this topic. > 2. The license is bound by the laws of California (section 11), so how > about projects started in non-US countries? If you want to use the original MPL then you are "stuck" with California jurisdiction. This is one major reason why people have done their own MPL-based licenses under other names. > 3. Does the Mozilla Foundation intend to promote its licensing model to > other projects? It's not really a major priority for the Foundation to promote the use of the MPL in non-Mozilla projects, for the following reasons:(Continue reading)
23 Nov 2006 08:39
Re: Reusing the MPL in non-Mozilla projects
Mitchell Baker <mitchell <at> mozilla.com>
2006-11-23 07:39:28 GMT
2006-11-23 07:39:28 GMT
Actually, there are a bunch of projects that use the MPL. The larger projects tend to make their own licenses; smaller projects use the MPL. Generally the smaller projects don't get as much attention so the use of the MPL itself isn't as clear. There isn't much discussion of this, as we haven't tried to evangelize use of the license. So we don't have a lot of discussions of using the MPL. The CDDL was created for a couple of different reasons, it's like the MPL but makes some changes as well. The MPL is generally considered reusable. There's an open question about whether to try to take choice of law out of the MPL but that hasn't happened yet. On promoting the use of the MPL I have somewhat different view than Frank. I think we want to avoid getting into "license wars" and some open source projects are very focused on promoting their licenses. I would like the Foundation to be a voice for finding ways to help more code interoperate. There are a number of people and organizations not interested in the GPL, and so I don't see that as the answer. The MPL might be helpful. I agree with Frank that I don't see the Foundation taking on licensing evangelism as a focus. But I also think that avoiding MPL derivatives when possible and having the MPL as a useful choice for people who want it is a good goal. mitchell Frank Hecker wrote: > Julien Ponge wrote: >> I am particularly interested in the MPL license for future projects, be(Continue reading)
23 Nov 2006 15:16
Re: Reusing the MPL in non-Mozilla projects
Frank Hecker <hecker <at> mozillafoundation.org>
2006-11-23 14:16:10 GMT
2006-11-23 14:16:10 GMT
Mitchell Baker wrote: > On promoting the use of the MPL I have somewhat different view than > Frank. I think we want to avoid getting into "license wars" and some > open source projects are very focused on promoting their licenses. I > would like the Foundation to be a voice for finding ways to help more > code interoperate. There are a number of people and organizations not > interested in the GPL, and so I don't see that as the answer. The MPL > might be helpful. I agree with Frank that I don't see the Foundation > taking on licensing evangelism as a focus. But I also think that > avoiding MPL derivatives when possible and having the MPL as a useful > choice for people who want it is a good goal. Let me add that Mitchell's and my views aren't actually that far apart. I agree that the MPL approach is a good one for people who are looking for something between MIT/BSD permissiveness and the GPL's strong copyleft; clearly that's one major reason why so many new open source licenses over the past few years have been created as direct MPL derivatives (often times just being renamed versions with minor changes) or have been heavily influenced by MPL principles and language. I also agree that a lot of people using MPL derivatives could and should have just used the original MPL instead. Frank -- -- Frank Hecker hecker <at> mozillafoundation.org
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