Peter Holsberg | 1 Jul 01:03 2012
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Re: Why Baby Boomers are the innovators of the future

Ron Hunter has written on 6/30/2012 4:39 PM:
> Some scientists still think like the ancient ones who were much like 
> 'priests' in that they held the knowledge, and doled it out as they saw 
> fit.  Making this 'sacred' knowledge available to everyone reduces their 
> elevated status.  If everyone can understand it, then they aren't as 
> special.

For "scientists", change to "a person in any field with a specialized vocabulary".

Albert Einstein once said, “If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough”.
Sailfish | 1 Jul 01:45 2012

Re: Siri still can’t match old-fashioned Google search, analyst says

My bloviated meandering follows what Tarkus graced us with on 6/30/2012 
2:53 PM:
> On 6/30/2012 12:26 PM, Sailfish wrote:
>> REF: http://www.bgr.com/2012/06/29/google-tops-siri-search-accuracy/
>>
>> [excerpt quote="
>> Fortune reports that Piper Jaffray has conducted a little study
>> comparing Siri and Google in terms of both query comprehension and
>> response accuracy, and has not surprisingly found that Google bests Siri
>> in each category.
>> " /]
>>
>> Honestly, who here ever thought different?
> 
> iSheep.

iSheeple :)

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Sailfish | 1 Jul 01:50 2012

Re: Exclusive: Microsoft Word 2013 to support built-in PDF editing

My bloviated meandering follows what David H. Lipman graced us with on 
6/30/2012 2:59 PM:
> From: "Sailfish" <REMOVECAPSsailfish <at> REMOVECAPSunforgettable.com>
> 
>> My bloviated meandering follows what David H. Lipman graced us with on 
>> 6/30/2012 12:07 PM:
>>> From: "Sailfish" <REMOVECAPSsailfish <at> REMOVECAPSunforgettable.com>
>>>
>>>> REF: 
>>>>
http://www.liveside.net/2012/06/29/exclusive-microsoft-word-2013-to-support-built-in-pdf-editing/ 
>>>> [excerpt quote="
>>>> Those who had been using Microsoft Word for their daily word 
>>>> processing tasks knows that ever since Office 2010 the software 
>>>> included the ability to save Word documents as PDF format (and an 
>>>> official plug-in is available for Office 2007 too). However, this 
>>>> had always been a one-way street, as you cannot go the other way and 
>>>> try to edit or open the PDF file in Word without the use of 
>>>> third-party software. LiveSide recently learnt that this is set to 
>>>> change with Word 2013, and you will be able to directly open and 
>>>> edit PDF content in Microsoft Word. This is how it will work, 
>>>> according to exclusive information we received:
>>>> " /]
>>>>
>>>> While a nice addition, it's not enough to convince me to upgrade 
>>>> from Office 2010.
>>>>
>>> Editing a PDF is a misperception.  You can manipulate a PDF but not 
>>> edit a PDF even in Acrobat Professional.  About all you can do is 
>>> move around graphics, delete/add pages, rotgate pages, etc.  Don't 
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Frank | 1 Jul 01:51 2012
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Re: Exclusive: Microsoft Word 2013 to support built-in PDF editing

On 6/30/2012 2:47 PM, Sailfish wrote:
> REF:
> http://www.liveside.net/2012/06/29/exclusive-microsoft-word-2013-to-support-built-in-pdf-editing/
>
>
> [excerpt quote="
> Those who had been using Microsoft Word for their daily word processing
> tasks knows that ever since Office 2010 the software included the
> ability to save Word documents as PDF format (and an official plug-in is
> available for Office 2007 too). However, this had always been a one-way
> street, as you cannot go the other way and try to edit or open the PDF
> file in Word without the use of third-party software. LiveSide recently
> learnt that this is set to change with Word 2013, and you will be able
> to directly open and edit PDF content in Microsoft Word. This is how it
> will work, according to exclusive information we received:
> " /]
>
> While a nice addition, it's not enough to convince me to upgrade from
> Office 2010.
>

Would be useful but I bet Open Office and Libre Office will keep up.
I've been using these guys for occasional need:
http://www.pdftoword.com/
but a scanned pdf will not go and I doubt Microsoft will do it either.
Sailfish | 1 Jul 01:54 2012

Re: Exclusive: Microsoft Word 2013 to support built-in PDF editing

My bloviated meandering follows what Frank graced us with on 6/30/2012 
4:51 PM:
> On 6/30/2012 2:47 PM, Sailfish wrote:
>> REF:
>>
http://www.liveside.net/2012/06/29/exclusive-microsoft-word-2013-to-support-built-in-pdf-editing/ 
>>
>>
>>
>> [excerpt quote="
>> Those who had been using Microsoft Word for their daily word processing
>> tasks knows that ever since Office 2010 the software included the
>> ability to save Word documents as PDF format (and an official plug-in is
>> available for Office 2007 too). However, this had always been a one-way
>> street, as you cannot go the other way and try to edit or open the PDF
>> file in Word without the use of third-party software. LiveSide recently
>> learnt that this is set to change with Word 2013, and you will be able
>> to directly open and edit PDF content in Microsoft Word. This is how it
>> will work, according to exclusive information we received:
>> " /]
>>
>> While a nice addition, it's not enough to convince me to upgrade from
>> Office 2010.
> 
> Would be useful but I bet Open Office and Libre Office will keep up.
> I've been using these guys for occasional need:
> http://www.pdftoword.com/
> but a scanned pdf will not go and I doubt Microsoft will do it either.

I use that on occasion, as well. Yes, it works quite well with a native 
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Ron Hunter | 1 Jul 02:47 2012
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Re: Siri still can’t match old-fashioned Google search, analyst says

On 6/30/2012 4:36 PM, Sailfish wrote:
> My bloviated meandering follows what Ron Hunter graced us with on
> 6/30/2012 1:41 PM:
>> On 6/30/2012 2:26 PM, Sailfish wrote:
>>> REF: http://www.bgr.com/2012/06/29/google-tops-siri-search-accuracy/
>>>
>>> [excerpt quote="
>>> Fortune reports that Piper Jaffray has conducted a little study
>>> comparing Siri and Google in terms of both query comprehension and
>>> response accuracy, and has not surprisingly found that Google bests Siri
>>> in each category.
>>> " /]
>>>
>>> Honestly, who here ever thought different?
>>>
>> That doesn't square with ANY test I have seen.  Siri has some gaping
>> holes, but it does amazingly well in most cases.  I asked it 'how fast
>> can a housefly fly' and it gave me the answer, interpreting the query
>> correctly.  On the other hand, changing 'competent government' into
>> 'you suck balls' didn't impress, although it cracked me up.
>> Note that it IS beta.  Grin.
>>
> All that really says is that your iPhone typing must be absolutely
> atrocious, methinks. :)
>
Most of the time, it is right on.  But I wouldn't recommend pressing 
'send' until you read the whole message..  Grin.
I am getting better at iPhone typing, but passwords are still about 50%.
PhillipJones | 1 Jul 03:04 2012

Re: The Universe

Daniel wrote:
> PhillipJones wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>> WE won't be around long before either happens. Not necessarily
>> Armageddon, or even the Mayan Clock Running out. At some points everyone
>> will start fighting and bomb will fly and it will burn out the earth
>> long before Our sun super nova's.
>
> Real minor pick!! Our sun is just an ordinary sized star (or smaller
> than average), so it will just Nova, not Supernova!!
>
well whether is Nova Super Nova Or Chevy Nova at some point it will 
implode upon itself . BUt the Earth will be burned out long before it 
happens.

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David H. Lipman | 1 Jul 03:37 2012
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Re: Exclusive: Microsoft Word 2013 to support built-in PDF editing

From: "Frank" <frankdotlogullo <at> comcast.net>

> Would be useful but I bet Open Office and Libre Office will keep up.
> I've been using these guys for occasional need:
> http://www.pdftoword.com/
> but a scanned pdf will not go and I doubt Microsoft will do it either.

Keep up ?  They are ahead in the game.

LibreOffice can do it natively.  When Sun owned OpenOffice you had to 
install the PDFImport add-on.  Its possible (and I haven't checked) the 
Apache has included it in the new OpenOffice like LibreOffice had done.

Both LibreOffice and OpenOffice can create editable (fillable) PDF Forms as 
well.

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»Q« | 1 Jul 04:25 2012
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Re: Mozilla forced update is a bad thing

On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:27:26 -0700
clay <cl <at> ymation.com> wrote:

> »Q« wrote:
> > Do GUI package managers now have routines that do restart everything
> > that needs restarting after an update?  (I just use the checkrestart
> > script;  I think it's from Debian, but I couldn't find a home page
> > for it.)
> Using Ubuntu (gnome) here... Read enough about Unity to hate it
> before I ever used it so I installed gnome before I started using the
> latest release. I can't say about the current frontend for the
> package manager. I only opened it once, hated it, and installed the
> ap that's been standard for years... synaptic.
> Synaptic has a terminal window one can watch as all the updates are 
> applied and processes are restarted as required.

Cool -- I didn't know synaptic would do that.

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»Q« | 1 Jul 04:38 2012
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Re: Mozilla forced update is a bad thing

On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 02:22:02 -0500
Ron Hunter <rphunter <at> charter.net> wrote:

> On 6/25/2012 10:13 PM, »Q« wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:32:23 -0500
> > Ron Hunter <rphunter <at> charter.net> wrote:

> >> I read the messages on the support groups, and here, about
> >> Linux users who have extreme difficulties just applying a simple
> >> update.  No thanks. Too old, and too demanding for that kind of
> >> detail.
> >
> > As compared to all the Windows users who, while just trying to carry
> > out their daily tasks, have hosed their own computers to the point
> > of flattening and re-installing the OS?
> 
> Maybe it is just luck, but I haven't had to reinstall Windows but
> twice since Win95, and one of those was my fault, and the other was a
> hardware error.  

So in the case of Linux, you take horror stories you read on the net to
heart, but in the case of Windows, you dismiss them since you haven't
encountered them yourself.  It seems like a clear case of selection
bias.

I see elsewhere in the thread, you found a post about getting a Linux Fx
to work with Kerberos.  I take it you've had no troubles getting
Windows Fx to work fine with Kerberos, just as you've had no troubles
updating apps on a Linux desktop.

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