david jeanneteau | 18 Mar 2007 22:49
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WML support for httpunit

Hi,

I'm about to use wmlbrowser to add WML support for httpunit.
Is it allowed to use your source code for httpunit project ?

What mention (on wmlbrowser) should be included in httpunit ?

Regards
David Jeanneteau

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Jorge m. silva | 20 Mar 2007 12:57
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is possible emulate this site ?

is possible emulate this site ?
http://wap.bradesco.com.br/
https://www.wap2.bradesco.com.br/wap2/Login.do

thx for all

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Matthew Wilson | 20 Mar 2007 19:23
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Re: WML support for httpunit

david jeanneteau wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm about to use wmlbrowser to add WML support for httpunit.
> Is it allowed to use your source code for httpunit project ?
> 
> What mention (on wmlbrowser) should be included in httpunit ?

Broadly speaking you should be meeting the conditions in the Mozilla 
triple license (Mozilla public license, GPL, or LGPL).

Personally speaking I would like to see credit given to the developers, 
and any improvements fed back into the wmlbrowser project.

Incidentally, could you explain a little more how wmlbrowser will be 
used in httpunit?

Matthew
Matthew Wilson | 20 Mar 2007 20:28
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Re: is possible emulate this site ?

Jorge m. silva wrote:
> is possible emulate this site ?
> http://wap.bradesco.com.br/
> https://www.wap2.bradesco.com.br/wap2/Login.do

This seems to be an XHTML Mobile site. wmlbrowser is only intended to 
emulate WML. I don't intend to support XHTML Mobile in wmlbrowser.

Matthew
Stegozor | 21 Mar 2007 04:01
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Re: WML support for httpunit

On 3/20/07, Matthew Wilson <matthew <at> mjwilson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> david jeanneteau wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm about to use wmlbrowser to add WML support for httpunit.
> > Is it allowed to use your source code for httpunit project ?
> >
> > What mention (on wmlbrowser) should be included in httpunit ?
>
> Broadly speaking you should be meeting the conditions in the Mozilla
> triple license (Mozilla public license, GPL, or LGPL).

Just to remind the home page of httpunit and its license :
http://httpunit.sourceforge.net/doc/license.html . It seems that there
will be some sort of license incompatibility: wmlbrowser is
tri-licensed like Firefox (Mozilla Public License, GPL, LGPL, pick all
or the one you wish, your choice)  but the license of httpunit seems
too permissive (in my understanding nothing prevents a proprietary
fork). In this particular case seems that your permission is
necessary, but since httpunit is an open-source project, I dare to
hope that this won't be a big problem.

Apart from that, I fully support the idea of Babelzilla :
http://www.babelzilla.org/ and I'm waiting for the next release ;)
david jeanneteau | 21 Mar 2007 08:59
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Re: WML support for httpunit


Incidentally, could you explain a little more how wmlbrowser will be
used in httpunit?

Very simple: I got  wml.xsl, wml.js and wml.css from wmlbrowser source.

In httpunit:
- detect a wml file
- apply the xsl transformation on wml content

I made some changes in wml.xsl:
- the chrome:// urls were replaced by http://localhost:port ones (wml.css and wml.js)
- in wml.js, one line could not be interpreted by httpunit javascript engine: it is commented out

I had some contact on htmlunit project, and i'm about to turn to this project (httpunit seems to be in 'sleeping' state).

Regards,
David

Matthew

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Matthew Wilson | 21 Mar 2007 21:08
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Re: WML support for httpunit

Stegozor wrote:
> On 3/20/07, Matthew Wilson <matthew <at> mjwilson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> david jeanneteau wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm about to use wmlbrowser to add WML support for httpunit.
>>> Is it allowed to use your source code for httpunit project ?
>>>
>>> What mention (on wmlbrowser) should be included in httpunit ?
>> Broadly speaking you should be meeting the conditions in the Mozilla
>> triple license (Mozilla public license, GPL, or LGPL).
> 
> Just to remind the home page of httpunit and its license :
> http://httpunit.sourceforge.net/doc/license.html . It seems that there
> will be some sort of license incompatibility: wmlbrowser is
> tri-licensed like Firefox (Mozilla Public License, GPL, LGPL, pick all
> or the one you wish, your choice)  but the license of httpunit seems
> too permissive (in my understanding nothing prevents a proprietary
> fork). In this particular case seems that your permission is
> necessary, but since httpunit is an open-source project, I dare to
> hope that this won't be a big problem.

I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think that MPL etc. prevent a proprietary 
fork either, just that the source code has to be made available.

It's important to remember that there are other contributors however, 
the basis of wmlbrowser wasn't written by me.

> Apart from that, I fully support the idea of Babelzilla :
> http://www.babelzilla.org/ and I'm waiting for the next release ;)

I don't have anything significant at the moment I'm afraid. I did have 
some ideas for making multi-card navigation work but they didn't come to 
anything.

Matthew
Matthew Wilson | 21 Mar 2007 22:09
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Re: WML support for httpunit

david jeanneteau wrote:
> 
>     Incidentally, could you explain a little more how wmlbrowser will be
>     used in httpunit? 
> 
> 
> Very simple: I got  wml.xsl, wml.js and wml.css from wmlbrowser source.
> 
> In httpunit:
> - detect a wml file
> - apply the xsl transformation on wml content

So is the purpose to test WML pages? or wmlbrowser?

> I made some changes in wml.xsl:
> - the chrome:// urls were replaced by http://localhost:port ones 
> (wml.css and wml.js)
> - in wml.js, one line could not be interpreted by httpunit javascript 
> engine: it is commented out
> 
> I had some contact on htmlunit project, and i'm about to turn to this 
> project (httpunit seems to be in 'sleeping' state).

David, I don't think you've joined the mailing list. Your messages would 
get through more quickly if you did. Also I don't know whether you've 
caught the recent messages about licenses.

Matthew
Stegozor | 22 Mar 2007 03:22
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A possible bug?

Hi,

Please compare

http://wap1.wapedia.mobi/en/Special:Prefsmobile?nocache=w4601e3508543e&prefsdo=1
(wml) and

http://wap2.wapedia.mobi/en/Special:Prefsmobile?nocache=w4601e299974f0&prefsdo=1
(xhtml).

Seems that there's a problem with the menus in wmlbrowser. Is this a known bug?
Matthew Wilson | 22 Mar 2007 08:47
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Re: A possible bug?

Stegozor wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Please compare
> 
> http://wap1.wapedia.mobi/en/Special:Prefsmobile?nocache=w4601e3508543e&prefsdo=1
> (wml) and
> 
> http://wap2.wapedia.mobi/en/Special:Prefsmobile?nocache=w4601e299974f0&prefsdo=1
> (xhtml).
> 
> Seems that there's a problem with the menus in wmlbrowser. Is this a known bug?

Note that you need to access http://wap1.wapedia.mobi/en/ or 
http://wap2.wapedia.mobi/en/ first.

It looks like a fault with the page to be honest, unless I'm missing 
something.

Matthew

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