Re: A newbie to encryption, needs a test buddy

Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:

> Demonstrating that any particular communications channel does *not* pass
> through the worst-case legal jurisdiction can be a fairly costly (if not
> impossible) operation.
> 
> That there exists a worst-case legal jurisdiction is sadly not
> particularly surprising.

Last Report I read stated that 95% of _all_ Email sent passed over a
U.S. circuit at some point in its journey.  The greatest protection
against NSA at this time is the physical lack of ability to analyze this
much data.  NSA is literally drowning in new data and cannot build
storage facilities fast enough.

Once the UK/USA Agreement is considered the actual number of Emails
passing through analytical checkpoints rises to 99% with only completely
closed systems being immune.

JOHN ;)
Timestamp: Friday 31 Jul 2009, 19:48  --400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

Re: A newbie to encryption, needs a test buddy

Hi,

John W. Moore III wrote on 01.08.09 01:49:

> Last Report I read stated that 95% of _all_ Email sent passed over a
> U.S. circuit at some point in its journey.  The greatest protection
> against NSA at this time is the physical lack of ability to analyze this
> much data.  NSA is literally drowning in new data and cannot build
> storage facilities fast enough.

Given the fact, that far more than 50% of all email traffic is spam, I
really hope they drown. Some day I even hope, they do something against
spam. This would really make the internet world a better place. And
maybe I should buy shares in harddisk manufacturers. Sorry for this
sarcastic comment, but this is what I think "they" deserve.

> Once the UK/USA Agreement is considered the actual number of Emails
> passing through analytical checkpoints rises to 99% with only completely
> closed systems being immune.

You think about VPN tunnels or anonymous remailers?

Ludwig

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Re: A newbie to encryption, needs a test buddy

Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> John W. Moore III wrote on 01.08.09 01:49:
> 
>> Last Report I read stated that 95% of _all_ Email sent passed over a
>> U.S. circuit at some point in its journey.  The greatest protection
>> against NSA at this time is the physical lack of ability to analyze this
>> much data.  NSA is literally drowning in new data and cannot build
>> storage facilities fast enough.
> 
> Given the fact, that far more than 50% of all email traffic is spam, I
> really hope they drown. Some day I even hope, they do something against
> spam. This would really make the internet world a better place. And
> maybe I should buy shares in harddisk manufacturers. Sorry for this
> sarcastic comment, but this is what I think "they" deserve.
> 
>> Once the UK/USA Agreement is considered the actual number of Emails
>> passing through analytical checkpoints rises to 99% with only completely
>> closed systems being immune.
> 
> You think about VPN tunnels or anonymous remailers?
> 
Or, (seeing as this *is* an enigmail list) how about we all encrypt all
outgoing emails, and get the recepient to start using
GPG/OpenPGP/Whatever if they're not already. Surely it would also slow
spam down quite a bit, if there was a system where once a message was
marked as spam, all other messages encrypted by the same public key
would be marked as spam, requiring the spammers to generate a new

Re: A newbie to encryption, needs a test buddy

� wrote:

> You think about VPN tunnels or anonymous remailers?

I was referring to Systems that never touch the Internet.

JOHN ;)
Timestamp: Saturday 01 Aug 2009, 08:09  --400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

Re: A newbie to encryption, needs a test buddy

Harry Rickards wrote:
> Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote:
>> Hi,
> 
>> John W. Moore III wrote on 01.08.09 01:49:
> 
>>> Last Report I read stated that 95% of _all_ Email sent passed over a
>>> U.S. circuit at some point in its journey.  The greatest protection
>>> against NSA at this time is the physical lack of ability to analyze this
/****SNIP******/
>>> Once the UK/USA Agreement is considered the actual number of Emails
>>> passing through analytical checkpoints rises to 99% with only completely
>>> closed systems being immune.
>> You think about VPN tunnels or anonymous remailers?

<Morten>
If you have control over your own mailserver? Or you may use the
proprietary IBM Lotus Notes and Domino mailserver.
</Morten>

> 
> Or, (seeing as this *is* an enigmail list) how about we all encrypt all
> outgoing emails, and get the recepient to start using
> GPG/OpenPGP/Whatever if they're not already. Surely it would also slow
> spam down quite a bit, if there was a system where once a message was
> marked as spam, all other messages encrypted by the same public key
> would be marked as spam, requiring the spammers to generate a new
> keypair for each spam message. If only it was a perfect world...
> 

Enigmail unable to find gpg.exe when told

	I'm using Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 downloaded from Mozilla.com on
Windows XP SP3 with Enigmail 0.96 and GnuPG 1.4.9. GPG works fine and
until recently so was Enigmail. Now Enigmail says it cannot find GnuPG.
I check the Override with box and specify the correct working location
of gpg.exe and still get the Could not find GnuPG message. I've
uninstalled and reinstalled Enigmail, restarted Thunderbird, rebooted
and still get the error messages. I don't know how to sort this out. Any
advice?

Re: Unusable Japanese language. (Was Re: [ANN] Enigmail v0.96.0 available

Phil Stracchino wrote:
> Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> In order to be compliant with OpenPGP, the character set ISO-2022-JP
>> cannot be used since messages in this charset violate the PGP/MIME
>> standard.
> 
> OK, now I'm curious.  Why does ISO-2022-CP charset violate the PGP/MIME
> standard?  Is there a technical reason, was it arbitrarily excluded as a
> permissible charset, or was it just never written in?

Sorry, I was imprecise. The output created by Thunderbird in ISO-2022-JP
is not guaranteed to be compliant with OpenPGP. The reason is an error
in the charset converter in Thunderbird. I think this has been fixed in
TB 3.

-Patrick

Re: Enigmail unable to find gpg.exe when told

Andrew D Wright wrote:
> 	I'm using Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 downloaded from Mozilla.com on
> Windows XP SP3 with Enigmail 0.96 and GnuPG 1.4.9. GPG works fine and
> until recently so was Enigmail. Now Enigmail says it cannot find GnuPG.
> I check the Override with box and specify the correct working location
> of gpg.exe and still get the Could not find GnuPG message. I've
> uninstalled and reinstalled Enigmail, restarted Thunderbird, rebooted
> and still get the error messages. I don't know how to sort this out. Any
> advice?

Could you check (and post) the precise error message displayed in the
OpenPGP > About dialog?

-Patrick

Re: Unusable Japanese language. (Was Re: [ANN] Enigmail v0.96.0 available

Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> Phil Stracchino wrote:
>> Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>>> In order to be compliant with OpenPGP, the character set ISO-2022-JP
>>> cannot be used since messages in this charset violate the PGP/MIME
>>> standard.
>> OK, now I'm curious.  Why does ISO-2022-CP charset violate the PGP/MIME
>> standard?  Is there a technical reason, was it arbitrarily excluded as a
>> permissible charset, or was it just never written in?
> 
> Sorry, I was imprecise. The output created by Thunderbird in ISO-2022-JP
> is not guaranteed to be compliant with OpenPGP. The reason is an error
> in the charset converter in Thunderbird. I think this has been fixed in
> TB 3.

Ah!  That makes more sense.  Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: Enigmail unable to find gpg.exe when told

	Here you go:

  GnuPG support provided by Enigmail

Running Enigmail version 0.96.0 (20090717-0949)

ERROR: Failed to access Enigmime service!

Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA256
> 
> Andrew D Wright wrote:
>> 	I'm using Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 downloaded from Mozilla.com on
>> Windows XP SP3 with Enigmail 0.96 and GnuPG 1.4.9. GPG works fine and
>> until recently so was Enigmail. Now Enigmail says it cannot find GnuPG.
>> I check the Override with box and specify the correct working location
>> of gpg.exe and still get the Could not find GnuPG message. I've
>> uninstalled and reinstalled Enigmail, restarted Thunderbird, rebooted
>> and still get the error messages. I don't know how to sort this out. Any
>> advice?
> 
> Could you check (and post) the precise error message displayed in the
> OpenPGP > About dialog?
> 
> - -Patrick