Examples, please?

OK, I've dived in to making my own installer using the stubs.  I've 
focused on the windows version since it's much better commented than the 
Mac version.  I have a mostly working installer.

There's a couple of things I don't see how to do.  It would be nice if I 
could see and example of how this works.

1) Install fonts in windows.  I see from the config.ini that is used in 
the Netscape installer that the stub is aware of where the fonts folder 
is, in PERSONAL_FONTS.  But how to get them installed, registered, 
efficiently?

2) Windows versions: My app has some minor differences between Windows 
95/98/Me and NT/200/XP.  It would be really nice if config.ini could 
sense which version it was on, and select the correct package.

TIA

Rob

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Re: Examples, please?

Have you already created a .xpi file for the fonts?  The native windows 
installer does not actually do the installation of files, but rather it 
gathers information from the user and system, then passes the .xpi files 
needing to be installed to the xpinstall engine.

I'm not sure how much you know about how the entire process works.  Let 
me know if you need more help on this.

Rob Brandt wrote:

> OK, I've dived in to making my own installer using the stubs.  I've 
> focused on the windows version since it's much better commented than 
> the Mac version.  I have a mostly working installer.
>
> There's a couple of things I don't see how to do.  It would be nice if 
> I could see and example of how this works.
>
> 1) Install fonts in windows.  I see from the config.ini that is used 
> in the Netscape installer that the stub is aware of where the fonts 
> folder is, in PERSONAL_FONTS.  But how to get them installed, 
> registered, efficiently?
>
> 2) Windows versions: My app has some minor differences between Windows 
> 95/98/Me and NT/200/XP.  It would be really nice if config.ini could 
> sense which version it was on, and select the correct package.
>
> TIA
>
> Rob
>

Re: Examples, please?

Thanks, Sean.  Actually, I've made a ton of progress on this, and have 
gotten the fonts installation working well by making the .xpi for the 
fonts, then copying them into the PERSONAL_FONTS folder.  I've only 
tested it on my w98 machine, but think it will work on NT/2000/XP too 
since it seems to know about the fonts folder.

What would be really valueble to me in other issues is complete 
documentation on what goes in to the config.ini file.  For example, in 
the config.ini file for Netscape 7.01 there is  a section:

[Component Navigator-Windows Registry0]
...
...
OS=NT5

To me, that last item suggests that component will only be run on 
WindowsXP (NT5?).  Yet I can find no documentation anywhere that says 
what the OS= item does, or what the valid values for it are.  I can only 
assume that there other items undocumented that I would find useful.  I 
did try and create a component with that item to see if it would install 
on w98, and it does, so I'm not "getting it".  Having an item that would 
only run on certain platforms would make my life a heck of a lot easier. 
  I have an application that runs on NT/2000/XP, w95/98/me, OS8-9, OSX, 
(and w3.1 and 68k macs, although I'm doubting I'll have many requests 
for that platform, and possibly in the future linux). You can see why I 
hope that XPInstall would be an ideal candidate for an installer.

Another issue I struggled with last night before sleep overtook me was
determining the previously defined (in the registry) installation path 
to my application.  Seems like it should work.  Doesn't.

Re: Examples, please?

Re: Examples, please?

Sean Su wrote:
> Rob,
> 
> yeah, docs on this is sparce at the moment (to say the least).

> http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/xpinstall/src/nsInstall.cpp#273 
> (contains info on what can return when querrying for platorms via .js 
> script)

This one is particularly interesting, with the fine level of OS detail 
resolved.  But I'll deal with that in the future.  For now I'll stick 
with the config.ini feature, assuming I'm doing it right.

> 2) via config.ini. Given the 'Windows Registry' section that you found, 
> here are the possible OS= key values.  You can also OR them together 
> (Win95|Win98):
>     Win95 debute - original release of win95 only
>     Win95 - any win95
>     Win98 - any win98
>     NT3 - nt3.x
>     NT4 - nt 4.x
>     NT50 - win2k
>     NT51 - winXP
>     NT5 - any os >= win2k

So Mac values aren't supported?  Is the OS= item supported only when 
dealing with the Windows Registry sections?  If so, is there any way to 
identify in config.ini components that will install (we're talking files 
here) on Windows but not on Mac, or in NT but not w98?

FWIW, my stategy so far is to hack what I'm getting from the Netscape 
installer for my own purposes.  The install.js files for my .xpi's are 
very simple, copies of the one I got from the browser.xpi (If I remember 
right).  Regarding fonts, I have the following in my config.ini:

[Component WinFonts]
;***LOCALIZE ME BABY ***
Description Short=Windows Fonts
;*** LOCALIZE ME BABY ***
Description Long=Display and printing fonts for Windows
Archive=WinFonts.xpi
Install Size=137
Install Size System=1
Install Size Archive=57
Atrributes=SELECTED

This installs the fonts into a subdirectory of my main application 
folder.  Later on, I copy them to the Windows Fonts folder:

[Copy File1]
Timing=post smartupdate
Source=[SETUP PATH]\Fonts\Ldnew_3.ttf
Destination=[PERSONAL_FONTS]
Fail if Exists=FALSE
Do Not Uninstall=FALSE

repeated for each font I need to install.  It seems to be working very 
well on my w98 machine, have yet to test it on any flavor of NT.  Do you 
forsee any problems with this method?

> How are you trying to determine the previous installation path to your 
> application?

I'm trying to adapt this from the Netscape config.ini, since it seems to 
do this.  I am suspecting that the sections [Locate Previous Product 
Pathx] sections do this automatically.  They refer to a registry key 
[Product CurrentVersion] and [Product PreviousVersion] HKey; but it's 
not finding mine even though I've verified that the paths exist in the 
registry.  I suspect that the script doesn't know what my [Product 
Previous/CurrentVersion] are, and don't see anywhere in the Netscape 
confog.ini where this variable is set.

Thanks

Rob

> Rob Brandt wrote:
> 
>>Thanks, Sean.  Actually, I've made a ton of progress on this, and have gotten
>>the fonts installation working well by making the .xpi for the fonts, then
>>copying them into the PERSONAL_FONTS folder.  I've only tested it on my w98
>>machine, but think it will work on NT/2000/XP too since it seems to know about
>>the fonts folder.
>>
>>What would be really valueble to me in other issues is complete documentation on
>>what goes in to the config.ini file.  For example, in the config.ini file for
>>Netscape 7.01 there is  a section:
>>
>>[Component Navigator-Windows Registry0]
>>...
>>...
>>OS=NT5
>>
>>To me, that last item suggests that component will only be run on WindowsXP
>>(NT5?).  Yet I can find no documentation anywhere that says what the OS= item
>>does, or what the valid values for it are.  I can only assume that there other
>>items undocumented that I would find useful.  I did try and create a component
>>with that item to see if it would install on w98, and it does, so I'm not
>>"getting it".  Having an item that would only run on certain platforms would
>>make my life a heck of a lot easier.  I have an application that runs on
>>NT/2000/XP, w95/98/me, OS8-9, OSX, (and w3.1 and 68k macs, although I'm doubting
>>I'll have many requests for that platform, and possibly in the future linux). 
>>You can see why I hope that XPInstall would be an ideal candidate for an installer.
>>
>>Another issue I struggled with last night before sleep overtook me was
>>determining the previously defined (in the registry) installation path to my
>>application.  Seems like it should work.  Doesn't.
>>
>>Thanks for your response.
>>
>>Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>Quoting Sean Su <ssu <at> netscape.com>:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>Have you already created a .xpi file for the fonts?  The native windows
>>>installer does not actually do the installation of files, but rather it
>>>gathers information from the user and system, then passes the .xpi files
>>>needing to be installed to the xpinstall engine.
>>>
>>>I'm not sure how much you know about how the entire process works.  Let
>>>me know if you need more help on this.
>>>
>>>Rob Brandt wrote:
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>>OK, I've dived in to making my own installer using the stubs.  I've
>>>>focused on the windows version since it's much better commented than
>>>>the Mac version.  I have a mostly working installer.
>>>>
>>>>There's a couple of things I don't see how to do.  It would be nice if
>>>>I could see and example of how this works.
>>>>
>>>>1) Install fonts in windows.  I see from the config.ini that is used
>>>>in the Netscape installer that the stub is aware of where the fonts
>>>>folder is, in PERSONAL_FONTS.  But how to get them installed,
>>>>registered, efficiently?
>>>>
>>>>2) Windows versions: My app has some minor differences between Windows
>>>>95/98/Me and NT/200/XP.  It would be really nice if config.ini could
>>>>sense which version it was on, and select the correct package.
>>>>
>>>>TIA
>>>>
>>>>Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Conditional automated installs under Windows

Hi Folks,

I apologise in advance if this is a little off-topic for this
group, but it's as close a match as I could find.

I am developing a script/bat that is intended to ensure
that a PC on startup has a designated level of Mozilla
installed.

I have unpacked the installer file ito its constituent bits
and think I can see how I use initool.exe to set up the
installation prior to running "setup -ma" switch.

I have read that I need to uninstall before updating,
and that %SYSTEMROOT%MozillaUninstall.exe is
used to so this.

Obviously I would like to only uninstall and update if a
newer version is to be installed.

How do I compare the version I am about to install
with what is already on the PC?  I assume that there
must be a way of comparing the mozver.dat file in
%SYSTEMROOT% with something in the files that
comprise the setup bundle, but I can't see how.  I
was not able to get "setup.exe -?" to show anything.

The version I'm testing with is 1.2.1.

Cheers, Dieter.

Re: Conditional automated installs under Windows

you can the mozilla.exe version already on the system by using the 
attached .exe file.  If you run it against mozilla.exe (from v1.2.1) it 
should return a value of 1.2.1.0.

hope this helps enough.

Dieter Jansen wrote:

>Hi Folks,
>
>I apologise in advance if this is a little off-topic for this
>group, but it's as close a match as I could find.
>
>I am developing a script/bat that is intended to ensure
>that a PC on startup has a designated level of Mozilla
>installed.
>
>I have unpacked the installer file ito its constituent bits
>and think I can see how I use initool.exe to set up the
>installation prior to running "setup -ma" switch.
>
>I have read that I need to uninstall before updating,
>and that %SYSTEMROOT%MozillaUninstall.exe is
>used to so this.
>
>Obviously I would like to only uninstall and update if a
>newer version is to be installed.
>
>How do I compare the version I am about to install
>with what is already on the PC?  I assume that there
>must be a way of comparing the mozver.dat file in
>%SYSTEMROOT% with something in the files that
>comprise the setup bundle, but I can't see how.  I
>was not able to get "setup.exe -?" to show anything.
>
>The version I'm testing with is 1.2.1.
>
>Cheers, Dieter.
>
>
>
>  
>

Bugzilla: are any Installer bugs relevant to OS X?

If Mach-O gets an installer app some day, would it share any code
 with the old Classic installer?

There are dozens of open bug reports involving problems with the
 Mozilla installer for Mac. Given that all OS X builds (both CFM
 and Mach-O) are sent as standalone applications inside .dmg,
 should the bugs be RESOLVED WONTFIX?

-F.

Problem moving Mail from Win98 to Mozilla

I had no problem getting Mozilla working on XP but I can't seem to get 
my existing mail folders moved over. I have multiple mail accounts and 
local folders.