Mark Banner | 2 Jun 2009 22:00

Thunderbird and Sunbird l10n nightlies are uploading to the wrong location.

I've just been made aware that the l10n nightly builds are missing from 
their normal location.

We now have a bug [1] tracking this, though our build guy is away for a 
few days so it may not get solved until the weekend or next week.

In the meantime, they are currently being uploaded to:

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/nightly/latest-releases/l10n-mozilla-1.9.1/
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/calendar/sunbird/nightly/latest-releases/l10n-mozilla-1.9.1/

I'll post again once this is fixed.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495777
Ludovic Hirlimann | 3 Jun 2009 12:32
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Thunderbird 3 Bugday, Thursday 2009/06/04 - Triage bugs for the next release, of Thunderbird

Thunderbird, Seamonkey, Calendar users ... you can help.

Focus continues on improving and resolving bugs reported against trunk 
(v3).  If you haven't participated yet, now is a good time to dip your 
toes into bug triage.

You can get advice on IRC in #bugday. 
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-06-04 has tips and 
starting points.

Please join us this Thursday for the bugday!

Ludovic

http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Testing lists additional ways to 
contribute to Thunderbird's progress.
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Mark Banner | 8 Jun 2009 21:07

Thunderbird Weekly Status meeting: Tuesday June 9th, 2009

[Followups aimed to mozilla.dev.planning]

The usual meeting in the usual venue. See 
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-06-09 for 
details, and please add anything you wish to discuss to the agenda.

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Ludovic Hirlimann | 10 Jun 2009 14:38
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Thunderbird 3 Bugday, Thursday 06/11/2009 - Triage bugs for the next release, of Thunderbird

Thunderbird, Seamonkey, Calendar users ... you can help.

Focus continues on improving and resolving bugs reported against trunk 
(v3).  If you haven't participated yet, now is a good time to dip your 
toes into bug triage.

http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-06-11 has tips and 
starting points - and should contain everything you need to participate 
to the event.

Please join us this Thursday in #bugday!

Ludovic

http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Testing lists additional ways to 
contribute to Thunderbird's progress.
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Ludovic Hirlimann MozillaMessaging QA lead
http://www.spreadthunderbird.com/aff/79/2
Mark Banner | 11 Jun 2009 00:40

Reorganisation of Thunderbird, Lightning and Sunbird nightly directories on ftp - Tuesday 16th June

With the recent switches from cvs to hg and then the addition of the 
1.9.1 branch, the Thunderbird, Lightning and Sunbird nightly directories 
on ftp are a bit untidy and are in need of a late spring clean to make 
them clearer for nightly users downloading our builds.

Unless there are any major objections, we will be actioning this change 
on Tuesday 16th June.

Please be prepared to update links to builds. We'll be covering all the 
mozilla.org/mozilla.com/mozillamessaging.com ones that we can find.

The tracking bug for this work is 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481685 .

The full description of changes is documented here: 
https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Standard8/FTP_directory_Reorg

The changes will affect the latest-* sub-directories, resulting in the 
structures summarised below. The changes may also affect the names of 
the dated directories.

latest-* directories remaining as a result of the proposed changes (any 
latest-* directories or symlinks not listed will be deleted):

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/nightly/

* latest-comm-1.9.1              (Thunderbird 3.0* en-US)
* latest-comm-1.9.1-l10n         (Thunderbird 3.0* Localised)
* latest-comm-central-trunk      (Thunderbird 3.1* en-US)
* latest-comm-central-trunk-1l0n (Thunderbird 3.1* Localised)
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Peter Weilbacher | 11 Jun 2009 13:44

Re: Heading towards Calendar 1.0 Beta 1

On 03.04.2009 17:31, Philipp Kewisch wrote:
> I'm sorry I haven't responded earlier, I didn't have an eye on the
> newsgroups.
>
> We indeed haven't talked about the build servers but unless the
> hardware costs are immense (which I don't believe) I think nothing
> speaks against keeping the build servers running. If we want to use
> those machines to build a joint Thunderbird+Lightning, I think the
> most reasonable thing to do is rather to cut down the number of
> Sunbird builds (i.e no hourly builds, just nightly builds) rather than
> turning them off completely. The initial barrier for getting involved
> with Sunbird development will be much higher if setting up nightly
> builds is the first thing the new leader has to do.
>
> Since many people have asked what is needed to keep Sunbird alive, I
> will follow up with a blog post soon (tm), also mentioning our ideas
> on stripping down Thunderbird to only provide calendar features if
> this is wanted in the long run. This might make it easier for new
> contributors to step up. I apologize for not having thought of this
> earlier.

Did this blog post ever happen?

Because I am using Sunbird myself on Linux and OS/2 (and rarely,
Windows), I would be very unhappy to see it go. I would like to help
with the development but my efforts to keep all the Mozilla programs
alive on OS/2 and the restriction to my decreasing spare time probably
make this unrealistic. Doing releases might be possible...

But to get any further in this discussion I would like to know things
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Peter Weilbacher | 11 Jun 2009 13:45

Re: Vote for Sunbird

On 09.04.2009 20:51, Wolfgang Beyer wrote:
> I like to suggest to post a hint directly on the main page
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird/ that we are urgently
> looking for voluntary programmers in this special situation. At the
> moment there is only a hint for the possibility of financial support. At
> the german main page http://www.sunbird-kalender.de there is nothing
> like that at all. The reader should see at once that there is a critical
> moment now. Who can do that?

Was this forgotten? Or did it just not reach the right people?
    Peter.
Simon Paquet | 11 Jun 2009 14:28
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Re: Heading towards Calendar 1.0 Beta 1

Peter Weilbacher wrote:

>> We indeed haven't talked about the build servers but unless the
>> hardware costs are immense (which I don't believe) I think nothing
>> speaks against keeping the build servers running. If we want to use
>> those machines to build a joint Thunderbird+Lightning, I think the
>> most reasonable thing to do is rather to cut down the number of
>> Sunbird builds (i.e no hourly builds, just nightly builds) rather than
>> turning them off completely. The initial barrier for getting involved
>> with Sunbird development will be much higher if setting up nightly
>> builds is the first thing the new leader has to do.
>>
>> Since many people have asked what is needed to keep Sunbird alive, I
>> will follow up with a blog post soon (tm), also mentioning our ideas
>> on stripping down Thunderbird to only provide calendar features if
>> this is wanted in the long run. This might make it easier for new
>> contributors to step up. I apologize for not having thought of this
>> earlier.
>
>Did this blog post ever happen?

Not that I'm aware.

For the rest, Philipp is the only one that can adequately answer your
questions.

Simon Paquet
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Thunderbird l10n blog:       http://thunderbird-l10n.blogspot.com
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Peter Lairo | 14 Jun 2009 15:47
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New Events - Set Default to Public vs. Private

I have several Google calendars and have integrated them into Lightning 
via CalDAV. I've also shared them via Google with my family.

When I create a new event from withing Lightning in a shared calendar 
(as defined in Google), the event is created as a "private" event by 
default by Lightning, even though I have made no selection under 
"Options / Privacy" and even though Lightning shown no checkmark on any 
of the selections. Events created like this cannot be seen by those whom 
I have explicitly shared the calendar with.

Is there a way to set the default privacy setting for new Events in 
Lighning? I cannot (and don't want to have to) remember to explicitly 
set the Privacy to "Public Event" every time I create a new event in 
Lightning.

What's the point, for a shared calendar, of setting the default to 
"private"? I understand that default-to-privacy is an argument. However, 
users can (and will) much easier create separate private and shared 
calendars for this purpose. And since the vast majority of users will 
use a calendar service (like Google), and that these services allow a 
much better, easier, and finer grained control of who else can see what 
calendars can be seen than Lightning's simple private/public setting, it 
would benefit most users if either:

- the default were set to "Public Event"
- the setting were directly in the dialog's primary UI (not buried in a 
sub-menu)
- there were a preference setting to select the default (Private or Public)

Is there already a bug on this? If not, I could file one.
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Mark Banner | 15 Jun 2009 10:42

Thunderbird Weekly Status meeting: Tuesday June 16th, 2009

[Followups aimed to mozilla.dev.planning]

The usual meeting in the usual venue. See 
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-06-16 for 
details, and please add anything you wish to discuss to the agenda.

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Gmane