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Juan Rey | 1 Aug 2007 09:38
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Today Pane future

I don't know if this is the right place to discuss it.

Despite that I like the new "Today Pane", I think it is far from being 
usable. I am not sure if its current state is just an alpha version or 
no more features are planed in a future.

Anyway IMHO such kind of pane should have some additional features that 
most of programs have; like Chandler Dashboard, Microsoft Outlook Today 
Pane, Evolution...

- More visible: greater and centered area, default on startup.

- Different sources: mail, calendar, rss feeds and custom connectors 
(weather forecast, quotes, ...).

- Customizable view by source: size, detail level.

I would like to know if are these "basic" set of features planed in a 
near future ( or not )?

Regards,
Juan Rey
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Bed | 1 Aug 2007 10:00
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Re: Today Pane future

Juan Rey wrote:
> I don't know if this is the right place to discuss it.
> 
> Despite that I like the new "Today Pane", I think it is far from being 
> usable. I am not sure if its current state is just an alpha version or 
> no more features are planed in a future.
> 
> Anyway IMHO such kind of pane should have some additional features that 
> most of programs have; like Chandler Dashboard, Microsoft Outlook Today 
> Pane, Evolution...
> 
> - More visible: greater and centered area, default on startup.
> 
> - Different sources: mail, calendar, rss feeds and custom connectors 
> (weather forecast, quotes, ...).
> 
> - Customizable view by source: size, detail level.
> 
> I would like to know if are these "basic" set of features planed in a 
> near future ( or not )?
> 
> Regards,
> Juan Rey
> 

My biggest concern is that it won't feature a higher grid between 
entries. I remember reading elsewhere (I hope I'm wrong) that the XUL 
widgets don't support multiline grids (in that one row can have multiple 
lines of text. Then again, the "Addons" form contains these when listing 
the addons.
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Christian Jansen | 1 Aug 2007 10:13
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Re: Today Pane future

Hi,
Thanks for your feedback.
The current implementation of the Today Pane is just the first step. So, 
more will follow soon.

I really like the ideas you've mentioned. And I'm pretty sure that we 
can do things in that direction after 1.0. For 1.0 it is planned to 
display Tasks & Events (only). See [1].

Regards,
Christian

[1] http://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:Mail_View_Integration

Juan Rey wrote:
> I don't know if this is the right place to discuss it.
> 
> Despite that I like the new "Today Pane", I think it is far from being 
> usable. I am not sure if its current state is just an alpha version or 
> no more features are planed in a future.
> 
> Anyway IMHO such kind of pane should have some additional features that 
> most of programs have; like Chandler Dashboard, Microsoft Outlook Today 
> Pane, Evolution...

> - More visible: greater and centered area, default on startup.
> 
> - Different sources: mail, calendar, rss feeds and custom connectors 
> (weather forecast, quotes, ...).
>
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Christian Jansen | 1 Aug 2007 10:49
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Re: Lightning Menus

Thanks for your feedback, Pete.
Please find my comment below.

Regards,
Christian

Pete wrote:
> Christian wrote:
>> Before I write the bug for changing the menus in the
>> proposed way I'd would like to hear your
>> opinion on the prototype.
>> http://www.cjansen.com/lightning/calendar-mode-menu.xul
> 
> That's pretty cool how you have a working menu bar on a website.  :)
> 
> FILE MENU:
> 
> Ctrl-N normally creates a new mail message in Thunderbird, so I would
> prefer that this didn't change, at least not in Mail Mode.
> 

Both, CTRL+N & CTRL+M creates new Mails. In Mail Mode CTRL+N should 
create a new mail, in Calendar Mode a new event, in Task Mode a new task.

CTRL+M should create in every mode a new message.
CTRL+E should create in every mode a new event. (currently assigned to 
"Edit as New")
CTRL+T should create in every mode a new task (currently assigned to 
"Get New Messages for Current Account")
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Pete | 1 Aug 2007 18:54

Re: Lightning Menus

I think that Alt-1 through Alt-3 would be perfect to switch between
Mail/Calendar/Tasks modes in Windows, but hopefully Mac/UNIX users
will say if that would work on their computers.

By the way, there is already a key binding in Lightning to switch from
Mail mode to Calendar mode (called "openLightningKey", mapped to
Ctrl-3).  That would probably have to be removed or changed.
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Stefan Sitter | 1 Aug 2007 23:00
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Re: Lightning Menus

Pete wrote:
> I think that Alt-1 through Alt-3 would be perfect to switch
> between Mail/Calendar/Tasks modes in Windows, but hopefully
> Mac/UNIX users will say if that would work on their computers.
> 
> By the way, there is already a key binding in Lightning to switch
> from Mail mode to Calendar mode (called "openLightningKey",
> mapped to Ctrl-3).  That would probably have to be removed or
> changed.

Are there any reason why Ctrl+3 needs to be removed? It's not used
by Thunderbird as far as I know. That's why it was chosen for Lightning.
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Pete | 1 Aug 2007 23:32

Re: Lightning Menus

Stefan wrote:
> Is there any reason why Ctrl+3 needs to be removed?

It doesn't matter to me if it stays.  I only mentioned it in case it
would break Christian's new key bindings.
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Anil SRIVASTAVA | 2 Aug 2007 00:38
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Re: Today Pane future

A possible place for the today pane is the bottom, message pane view of 
the 3-panes.

Anil

Juan Rey wrote:
> I don't know if this is the right place to discuss it.
> 
> Despite that I like the new "Today Pane", I think it is far from being 
> usable. I am not sure if its current state is just an alpha version or 
> no more features are planed in a future.
> 
> Anyway IMHO such kind of pane should have some additional features that 
> most of programs have; like Chandler Dashboard, Microsoft Outlook Today 
> Pane, Evolution...
> 
> - More visible: greater and centered area, default on startup.
> 
> - Different sources: mail, calendar, rss feeds and custom connectors 
> (weather forecast, quotes, ...).
> 
> - Customizable view by source: size, detail level.
> 
> I would like to know if are these "basic" set of features planed in a 
> near future ( or not )?
> 
> Regards,
> Juan Rey
> 
> _______________________________________________
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pluk77 | 2 Aug 2007 09:21
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Re: Today Pane future

Anil SRIVASTAVA wrote the following on 02-08-2007 00:38:
> A possible place for the today pane is the bottom, message pane view of 
> the 3-panes.
> 
> Anil
> 

I like the current location as i am using the Classic Layout with the 
message pane and on my widescreen laptop screen, there is enough space 
on the left for the today pane.

On my right, all unread emails and RSS feeds and on the left my calendar 
and tasks. Perfect for me. No need to include that all into one as all 
my unread emails are way too much to be captured in a 'today' pane and 
they change way too often.

Marcel
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Ulf Stroehler | 2 Aug 2007 10:27
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Re: Lightning Menus

Christian Jansen wrote:
[...]
> CTRL+T should create in every mode a new task (currently assigned to 
> "Get New Messages for Current Account")
> 
> 

means you're aware of this conflict. You know how critical it is to 
change widely accepted key bindings?

  -Ulf
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