Matthew Petroff | 1 Jun 2011 02:52
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Re: Hugin 2011.0.0 released

On May 29, 3:54 pm, Yuval Levy <goo... <at> levy.ch> wrote:
> EXECUTABLES
>
> Users communities produce executables for their respective platforms.
>
> These executables are then added to the download section on SourceForge at http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/

Windows binaries are now on SourceForge.

Matthew

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grow | 1 Jun 2011 03:34
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Re: Please proof read "Read Me First (Mac)" for new Hugin 2011.0

Harry,

A few small comments.

1. In the section headed "Usage of Hugin"
  between steps
    1 add images to the project via the "Images" tab,
      and
    2 add control points,

add as Item 2,  renumbering those below it:
    2. Set the Yaw, Pitch, Roll and Stack for each image

2. In the section headed:
"Those who are interested in the development."
a) The part that appears as:
    "a Wiki knowledge base about all kind of panaorama related
topics."
should read (2 changes kinds and panorama):
      "a Wiki knowledge base about all kinds of panorama related
topics."

b) and the part that appears as:
    "you will find new development MacOsx builds at regular basis."
should read (2 changes Mac OS X and "on a" instead of "at"):
      "you will find new development MacOS X builds on a regular
basis."

all the best

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phartzake@gmail.com | 1 Jun 2011 05:10
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Re: 2011.0: To release or not to release, that's the question

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Harry van der Wolf <hvdwolf <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry I had not added you to the list of selected users.
> Please find it here:
> http://hugin.panotools.org/testing/hugin/Hugin.app20110528.zip

  I have worked with this test version for a few panos.  I can get a
stitched pano from within the application, but it comes with the
following error message that I saved as a log file:

enblend: info: loading next image: DSCF0073-DSCF00750000.tif 1/1
enblend: info: loading next image: DSCF0073-DSCF00750001.tif 1/1
enblend: info: loading next image: DSCF0073-DSCF00750002.tif 1/1
enblend: info: writing final output
gnumake: write error

  The pano is created and written to disk and no "write error" is
actually apparent.  Indeed, the above log file is all that is
displayed in the stitch log window as the pano is being created and
written.  I did note that the Control Points windows did display a lot
of graphical weirdness that I seem to recall had recently been
discussed on the list.

  Bottom line, the application does create a pano in this test version of Hugin.

  Steve

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Emad ud din Btt | 1 Jun 2011 08:06
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Re: Re: Hugin 2011.0.0 released

Thanks again Matthew.



On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:52 AM, Matthew Petroff <matthew <at> mpetroff.net> wrote:
On May 29, 3:54 pm, Yuval Levy <goo... <at> levy.ch> wrote:
> EXECUTABLES
>
> Users communities produce executables for their respective platforms.
>
> These executables are then added to the download section on SourceForge at http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/

Windows binaries are now on SourceForge.

Matthew

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Gnome Nomad | 1 Jun 2011 08:38
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Re: 2011.0: To release or not to release, that's the question

Yuval Levy wrote:
> On May 31, 2011 07:13:44 AM Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>> 2011/5/31 Yuval Levy <google <at> levy.ch>
>>> On May 30, 2011 07:36:50 PM Bruno Postle wrote:
>>>> Another option is just to change Hugin to only ever send stitching
>>>> jobs to the Batch Processor and stop supporting hugin_stitch_project
>>>> in the GUI.
>>>>
>>>> It is a bit weird having two GUI tools to manage stitching, I'm sure
>>>> this confuses new users.
>>> agree.  just set the Batch Processor to behave like hugin_stitch_project
>>> by default (i.e. start stitching right away) and most users won't even
>>> notice that hugin_stitch_project is gone.
>>>
>>> Yuv
>> I see it as an option, but not one I personally favor. For OSX we are
>> talking about <20% of the user population that is affected. I don't like to
>> change it for >80%, especially because it degrades user friendliness for
>> those >80%. Most people favor an integrated Gui. It's also one of the
>> complaints for gimp with all those floating windows around (and even Gimp
>> and other gtk related programs are slowly migrating to the integral gui).
> 
> I was thinking about this "option" for all users (including Linux and 
> Windows), and I guess Bruno too.
> 
> Unless Hugin on the Mac is completely different than on Linux, there is no 
> "integrated Gui".  On Linux, when I hit the "stitch now" button, it starts a 
> different application with its own (simple) GUI.  Floating window indeed.

It starts up what looks (to me) like a basic window displaying the text 
message outputs of whatever CLI programs it's running.

> The Batch Stitcher only has a more complex GUI to make the extra functionality 
> accessible.  I am sure it can be tweaked to offer a simpler view similar to 
> what is shown nowadays by hugin_stitch_project by default; and maybe even 
> taken one step further, reducing it to an icon in the notification tray that 
> shows it's current status (waiting/working/error) and opens up a control 
> window only when the user clicks on it.

Is there a difference in priority/performance when running "Stitch Now" 
vs sending to batch?

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phartzake@gmail.com | 1 Jun 2011 14:51
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Re: 2011.0: To release or not to release, that's the question

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:10 PM, phartzake <at> gmail.com
<phartzake <at> gmail.com> wrote:

  I failed to mention that I am running 10.5.4 on an iMac Core Two Duo.

  Steve

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sebastien delcoigne | 1 Jun 2011 15:29
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Hugin 2011.0.0 release notes

Hi all,

I have written a draft for the french version of the release notes (see file attached).

Pour les francophones, n'hésitez pas à corriger les erreurs de français ainsi que les traductions approximatives.

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Notes de diffusion de Hugin-2011.0.0

Hugin est plus qu'un simple logiciel d'assemblage de panorama.

Changements depuis la version 2010.4.0

Malgrès quelques problèmes connus (voir la section PROBLEMES CONNUS ci-dessous) cette version apporte plusieurs nouvelles fonctionnalités majeures. Le générateur de points de contrôle d'Hugin, CPFind, a été fortement amélioré; le dernier projet du Google Summer of Code 2010 a été intégré; de nombreuses améliorations générales ont été effectuées.

Amélioration du Générateur de Points de Contrôle Embarqué

La capacité de détection de CPFind a été améliorée significativement, notamment pour les images grand angle (> FOV 65°), les images fisheye, et les images pivotées. Des preuves anectdotiques montrent qu'il est plus précis que les autres détecteurs utilisés jusqu'à présent avec Hugin. Une comparaison scientifique approfondie serait la bienvenue. Si vous avez des résultats de comparaison bien présentés, merci de bien vouloir publiez un lien sur la liste de diffusion de Hugin.

Amélioration de l'Aperçu Rapide

Un onglet Vue Générale a été rajouté à la fenêtre d'Aperçu Rapide. Les utilisateurs ont maintenant la possibilité d'intéragir avec la panosphère à la manière des visualiseurs de réalité virtuelle en temps réél. Ils peuvent ainsi visualiser toutes les parties du panorama avec peu de déformations, notamment le zénith et le nadir qui sont excéssivement déformés dans l'aperçu plan.

Il est maintenant possible de déplacer des images individuelles ou des groupes arbitraires d'images sur la panosphère dans l'Aperçu Rapide.

Un nouveau sélectionneur de point gris a été ajouté pour la correction de la balance des blancs.

Images Stéréoscopiques

align_image_stack est communément utilisé pour aligner des images légèrement décalées, par exemple pour créer des images HDR à partir de photos prises à main levée.

Il a été étendu pour ajouter les fonctionnalités d'alignement nécessaires à la création d'images stéréoscopiques.

Autres Améliorations

  • Compression des Man pages et génération intégrée dans le processus CMake (Linux/BSD/Unix).
  • Nouvelle projection Thoby modélisant les objectifs Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye.
  • Support amélioré pour certains raccourcis clavier.
  • Nouvelles Préférences: format du fichier de sortie (LDR uniquement).
  • Cette version apporte son lot habituel de corrections et de fonctionnalités mineures.

Améliorations des Librairies et de la Compilation

  • Une version 2.8 ou plus récente de CMake est dorénavant nécessaire.
  • La prise en charge du compilateur gcc-4.6 a été ajoutée.
  • Libpano13 nécessite d'être au moins dans la version 2.9.18.

Langues

Plusieurs traductions ont été mises à jour pour cette version.

Générateurs de Points de Contrôle

Depuis la version 2010.4, Hugin est livré avec son propre générateur de points de contrôle libre. Les générateurs tiers sont toujours utilisables sous la forme de plugins. CPFind est le générateur de points de contrôle préconisé et le seul qui soit approuvé par l'équipe du project Hugin.

Mise à jour

La mise à jour d'une version précédente de Hugin devrait être indolore. Si toutefois vous rencontrez des soucis avec d'anciens paramétrages, ils peuvent être rechargés depuis la fenêtre de Préférences en cliquant sur 'Charger les valeurs par défaut'.

Il est fortement conseillé de sélectionner CPFind comme détecteur de points de contrôle par défaut..

Compilation

Les utilisateurs compilant le code source se réfèront à la list des dépendences (en anglais) et au processus de compilation (en anglais) spécifique à leur plateforme décrit dans le wiki. De plus amples informations sont disponibles dans les fichiers README et INSTALL_cmake du tarball.

Téléchargement

Hugin est disponible sur SourceForge et Launchpad.

Des communautés d'utilisateurs produisent des éxécutables pour leur plateforme. Ces éxécutables sont souvent annoncés sur la liste de diffusion quelques jours après la parution de ce tarball et sont ajoutés à la section téléchargement sur SourceForge.

Problèmes connus et Contournements

Sur certaines versions d'OSX, Hugin n'arrive pas à assembler un projet quand bien même il à l'air correct dans l'aperçu.Détails (en agnlais). Contournement:

  1. Sauvegardez le projet dans Hugin
  2. Ouvrez le projet dans PTBatcherGUI (Fichier / Ajouter Projet / sélectionner le fichier .pto)
  3. Cliquez le bouton de démarrage pour assembler.

L'aperçu plan est faux lorsqu'on ouvre la fenêtre d'aperçu rapide pour la première fois. Détails (en agnlais).

La fenêtre d'aperçu panosphère est séparée du contenu. Détails (en agnlais).

An updated list of issues deemed to be critical, including discussions and workarounds, is in the Issues Tracker.

Ecran d'Attente

Le projet Hugin est fier de promouvoir des oeuvres créées avec Hugin dans la fenêtre d'attente de cette version.

L'artiste Jeff Boyd a pris les photos pour son Seattle Sunset Panorama le 26 Décembre 2009, par un jour d'hiver sans nuage particulièrement rare, proche du coucher du soleil, depuis le quartier de Queen Anne Hill, avec un Canon EOS 350D muni de l'objectif 18-55mm du kit à 55mm. Le panorama résultant fait 9690x3300 pixels.

La vue du centre ville de Seattle dans l'état de Washington aux USA montre la Space Needle et le mont Rainier en arrière-plan.

A propos de l'artiste

Jeff a grandi en déménageant régulièrement aux Etats Unis et en Europe en raison du métier de son père au sein de l'armée américaine, mais considère Tacoma, dans l'état de Washington comme son port d'attache. Il habite en ce moment en Arizona où il poursuit des études d'informatique en vue d'obtenir son doctorat dans l'Université d'Etat de l'Arizona. Il a une licence d'ingénierie informatique de l'Université Brigham Young. Il aime sa famille (composée de sa charmante femme, deux magnifiques filles et un nouveau petit garçon), sa religion, le chocolat allemand, voyager, randonner, skier, les ordinateurs et la photographie. Son goût pour la photographie (et particulièrement les panoramas) s'est développé lorsqu'il a reçu son premier appareil photo numérique en cadeau pour l'obtention de son baccalauréat. Aujourd'hui, il apprécie de se rappeler ses voyages et ses randonnées (et de documenter la vie de ses enfants!) à travers les belles photos qu'il a prises et fréquemment assembler en panoramas.

Jeff est un utilisateur de Hugin et il a aussi contribuer au code du logiciel avec un patch.

Remerciements

Merci à tous les contributeurs de cette version et aux membres de la list de diffusion hugin-ptx, bien trop nombreux pour être tous cités ici.

Harry van der Wolf | 1 Jun 2011 18:47
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Re: Re: Please proof read "Read Me First (Mac)" for new Hugin 2011.0

Thanks George,

I applied your corrections.

Harry

2011/6/1 grow <georgerow <at> gmail.com>
Harry,

A few small comments.

1. In the section headed "Usage of Hugin"
 between steps
   1 add images to the project via the "Images" tab,
     and
   2 add control points,

add as Item 2,  renumbering those below it:
   2. Set the Yaw, Pitch, Roll and Stack for each image

2. In the section headed:
"Those who are interested in the development."
a) The part that appears as:
   "a Wiki knowledge base about all kind of panaorama related
topics."
should read (2 changes kinds and panorama):
     "a Wiki knowledge base about all kinds of panorama related
topics."

b) and the part that appears as:
   "you will find new development MacOsx builds at regular basis."
should read (2 changes Mac OS X and "on a" instead of "at"):
     "you will find new development MacOS X builds on a regular
basis."


all the best

George


On May 31, 6:10 pm, Harry van der Wolf <hvdw... <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi OSX users and those who are also interested,
>
> I'm building the new 2011 bundle. I need to update the readme which is
> located at the top level inside the dmg.
>
> Please check for readability and/or errors.
> The document is attached in ODF format (from Libre Office) and in PDF
> format.
>
> Harry
>
>  Read Me First (Mac).pdf
> 135KViewDownload
>
>  Read Me First (Mac).odt
> 233KViewDownload

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Harry van der Wolf | 1 Jun 2011 20:48
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Re: 2011.0: To release or not to release, that's the question

Hi Steve,

2011/6/1 phartzake <at> gmail.com <phartzake <at> gmail.com>
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Harry van der Wolf <hvdwolf <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry I had not added you to the list of selected users.
> Please find it here:
> http://hugin.panotools.org/testing/hugin/Hugin.app20110528.zip

 I have worked with this test version for a few panos.  I can get a
stitched pano from within the application, but it comes with the
following error message that I saved as a log file:

enblend: info: loading next image: DSCF0073-DSCF00750000.tif 1/1
enblend: info: loading next image: DSCF0073-DSCF00750001.tif 1/1
enblend: info: loading next image: DSCF0073-DSCF00750002.tif 1/1
enblend: info: writing final output

The enblend messages are progress messages, not error messages. They are always displayed.
 
gnumake: write error

This is weird and I can't think of what causes this. Can you check your created pano for exif data? Normally it should contain the "non unique" exif info of the first image of the series. This is done by Exiftool. Maybe that's now failing.
 

 The pano is created and written to disk and no "write error" is
actually apparent.  Indeed, the above log file is all that is
displayed in the stitch log window as the pano is being created and
written.  I did note that the Control Points windows did display a lot
of graphical weirdness that I seem to recall had recently been
discussed on the list.


Please explain this "graphical weirdness"

 
 Bottom line, the application does create a pano in this test version of Hugin.

 Steve


Well, maybe I should build an if-then-else option that tests for 10.5 and after testing by the users release it as 2011.0.1.

Harry

 

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Bruno Postle | 1 Jun 2011 23:41
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Re: 2011.0: To release or not to release, that's the question

On Tue 31-May-2011 at 20:38 -1000, Gnome Nomad wrote:
>Yuval Levy wrote:
>>Unless Hugin on the Mac is completely different than on Linux, 
>>there is no "integrated Gui".  On Linux, when I hit the "stitch 
>>now" button, it starts a different application with its own 
>>(simple) GUI.  Floating window indeed.
>
>It starts up what looks (to me) like a basic window displaying the 
>text message outputs of whatever CLI programs it's running.

It is a GUI tool called hugin_stitch_project that takes a .pto 
project, creates a Makefile for stitching it, processes it and 
displays the text output in a window.  It also lets you save a log 
file when things go wrong.

>Is there a difference in priority/performance when running "Stitch 
>Now" vs sending to batch?

They should be equivalent, both use the same Makefile stitching 
backend.  The batch processor also allows reordering the queue, 
pausing and stopping, the queue should survive a reboot of the 
machine.

The batch processor can also identify likely projects from lists of 
photos, and will queue/process the alignment step as well as 
stitching.

The GUI isn't as clear as it could be and it has some superfluous 
options, but really it is about time it replaced 
hugin_stitch_project.

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