Dear Tania and Jennifer,
it is possible to obtain a trial version
of Web-Protege, about your accepted paper at:
http://webont.org/owled/2008/accepted-papers.html
?
Thanks and best regards.
Riccardo.
Tania Tudorache <tudorache <at> stanford.edu>
Inviato da: protege-owl-bounces <at> lists.stanford.edu
07/08/2008 00.31
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Re: [protege-owl] [Pellet-users] Starting
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Hi Joseph,
I think your questions are more related to Protege-OWL than Pellet. I
think we should continue the discussion on the Protege-OWL mailing list.
I've added it into the cc.
Evren Sirin wrote:
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> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Kormann, Joseph
> <joseph.kormann <at> lmco.com <mailto:joseph.kormann <at> lmco.com>>
wrote:
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> Tim,
>
> I put some other emails to the Protégé site. I tried
using the
> examples from
> <http://protege.stanford.edu/plugins/owl/api/ReasonerAPIExamples.html>
> and others than Tania recommended online.
>
The link you gave is the old reasoner API. I suppose you meant this one:
I suppose you mean this one:
http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/index.php/ProtegeReasonerAPI
>
> A couple of problems that I ran into:
> - Converting from a JenaOwlModel into an OntModel is
a one-way
> process. The OntModel, which can execute Pellet, needs
to load the
> namespaces *again* and it uses the URLs provided, not
the
> local-file references. I don't want to rework all the
existing
> code into Jena just yet.
>
I don't know what you mean here.. When invoking the direct connection to
Pellet, the Protege OWL internal model is converted either to a Jena
model that uses the Pellet reasoner, or to an OWL-API model. (Default
in the UI is OWL-API).
>
> I don't know why reloading is required but normally if you have a
Jena
> model you can create a Pellet-backed model by doing
>
> OntModel pelletModel = ModelFactory.createOntologyModel(
> PelletReasonerFactory.THE_SPEC, originalModel );
>
> If there are SWRL rules in the model, Pellet will automatically
> recognize and reason with them. There are examples in the Pellet
> distribution with more examples.
>
>
>
> - Running the documented ProtegePellet class worked
great for
> class-level inference, however I didn't see it run the
SWRL that
> is in the OWL Model.
>
>
> I don't know if Protege translates SWRL rules into the Jena OntModel.
> But one problem that might occur is when you use the SWRL builtins
> supported by the SWRLTab of Protege. Pellet does not support those
> built-in extensions and would ignore rules that contain any
> unsupported built-in (and log a warning message about it).
The Jena implementation of the Protege-OWL reasoner
(ProtegePelletJenaReasoner) will convert all the SWRL rules and they are
sent to Pellet. So you will get in the OWL Model all the SWRL related
inferences. As Evren said, if you are using custom built-ins from the
SWRL library, Pellet does not ||support those, and they will not be
executed.
The default direct connection to Pellet available in Protege 3.4 is the
OWL-API implementation (ProtegePelletOWLAPIReasoner), that does not
convert the SWRL rules. So, make sure that you are using in your code
the ProtegePelletJenaReasoner, rather than the
ProtegePelletOWLAPIReasoner. We already have the code for the latter one
but it is not included in the distribution.
If you would like to continue this thread, please do so on the
Protege-OWL mailing list.
Thanks,
Tania*||*
>
> Cheers,
> Evren
>
>
> I've had problems with Protégé 3.4b120 and 3.4b504 about
executing
> SWRLs in the Protégé UI - those were posted to the Protégé
mail list.
>
> -Joseph
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Timothy Redmond [mailto:tredmond <at> stanford.edu
> <mailto:tredmond <at> stanford.edu>]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 3:11 PM
> > To: Kormann, Joseph; Pellet Users List
> > Subject: Re: [Pellet-users] Starting with ProtegeOwl
Classes
> >
> >
> > This message almost looks like it belongs more
on the protege owl
> > mailing list.
> >
> > There are items that belong here - how to use pellet
with the
> owl api
> > (I suspect that is actually trivially easy...)
and how to use pellet
> > with an OntModel. But in general, there are
people on the protege
> > owl mailing list who know all the choices on how
to use the Protege
> > Owl api and pellet. This includes using the
jena pellet
> reasoner and
> > the owlapi reasoner through protege owl.
> >
> > -Timothy
> >
> > On Aug 6, 2008, at 6:02 AM, Kormann, Joseph wrote:
> >
> > > I'm starting with ProtegeOwl Classes, mainly
because of legacy
> code
> > > we cannot change at this point. I want to
use Pellet as the
> > > reasoner. The Protégé Pellet wrapper does
not appear to be working
> > > for SWRL, so I'm looking at how to use the
OwlApi classes.
> > >
> > > I can get an OntModel from ProtegeOwl's JenaOwlModel
object.
> What is
> > > the right sequence of events to execute the
Pellet reasoner
> against
> > > it?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
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