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Simon Shilton | 3 Jan 2010 18:31
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Re: First OES2 w/linux server

we are using Arkeia

>>> On 29 December 2009 at 21:36, in message <4B3A05DA02000020000232F9 <at> GWISE.co.mason.wa.us>, "Bob
Deans" <rpd <at> co.mason.wa.us> wrote:

We are using Sep Sesam to backup all of our servers. It does a great job backing up NSS rights on OES. It is also
the best priced backup software I could find. 

>>> Bud Durland <budthegrey <at> gmail.com> 12/29/09 7:51 AM >>> 
Other than PortLock, what are folks using to backup OES2? We're currently 
using EMC Retrospect Multi-Server, but using it to backup OES, and 
especially the NSS partition, is "untested", to use their words. 

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Lori Binner | 4 Jan 2010 15:26

Re: First OES2 w/linux server

We will be upgrading from NetWare to OES in a few weeks...we plan on using our current in-house product, HP
Data Protector. Their docs say OES is supported...just curious if anyone else is using this and have you
found it works well?

>>> "Simon Shilton" <Simon.Shilton <at> acustica.co.uk> 1/3/2010 11:31 AM >>>
we are using Arkeia

>>> On 29 December 2009 at 21:36, in message <4B3A05DA02000020000232F9 <at> GWISE.co.mason.wa.us>, "Bob
Deans" <rpd <at> co.mason.wa.us> wrote:

We are using Sep Sesam to backup all of our servers. It does a great job backing up NSS rights on OES. It is also
the best priced backup software I could find. 

>>> Bud Durland <budthegrey <at> gmail.com> 12/29/09 7:51 AM >>> 
Other than PortLock, what are folks using to backup OES2? We're currently 
using EMC Retrospect Multi-Server, but using it to backup OES, and 
especially the NSS partition, is "untested", to use their words. 

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joe Acquisto | 4 Jan 2010 16:34
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Re: First OES2 w/linux server

We do disk to disk, then use DP to copy those files.  No "live action"
backups.

joe a.

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Lori Binner <LBinner <at> jjkeller.com> wrote:

> We will be upgrading from NetWare to OES in a few weeks...we plan on using
> our current in-house product, HP Data Protector. Their docs say OES is
> supported...just curious if anyone else is using this and have you found it
> works well?
>
> >>> "Simon Shilton" <Simon.Shilton <at> acustica.co.uk> 1/3/2010 11:31 AM >>>
> we are using Arkeia
>
> >>> On 29 December 2009 at 21:36, in message <
> 4B3A05DA02000020000232F9 <at> GWISE.co.mason.wa.us>, "Bob Deans" <
> rpd <at> co.mason.wa.us> wrote:
>
> We are using Sep Sesam to backup all of our servers. It does a great job
> backing up NSS rights on OES. It is also the best priced backup software I
> could find.
>
>
> >>> Bud Durland <budthegrey <at> gmail.com> 12/29/09 7:51 AM >>>
> Other than PortLock, what are folks using to backup OES2? We're currently
> using EMC Retrospect Multi-Server, but using it to backup OES, and
> especially the NSS partition, is "untested", to use their words.
>
>
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Joe R. Doupnik | 4 Jan 2010 16:40
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Re: First OES2 w/linux server

On 04/01/2010 14:26, Lori Binner wrote:
> We will be upgrading from NetWare to OES in a few weeks...we plan on using our current in-house product, HP
Data Protector. Their docs say OES is supported...just curious if anyone else is using this and have you
found it works well?
>    
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     In the end it is our neck on the chopping block, so we test things 
before committing to them. Backups are a particularly awkward item. The 
reason is we have open files to consider, plus NSS compatibility with 
trustees. Then life becomes even more interesting when we approach the 
o/s portion of things (which includes eDir data) because there are loads 
of file names which aren't files and worse, files on disk which are 
hidden by mounts. Most backup programs can skim across the top of these 
things, which leaves hidden files at risk.
     The harder test to perform at home is restoring files. Here there 
be tigers.
      I offer this simple rule about backup/restores to help with our 
understanding of the problem. The rule is: Backup only what is 
physically on disk, not one thing more. The "one thing more department" 
is rather extensive on Linux, and it is all created dynamically by the 
o/s as the system runs. That department should not be restored, ever. 
There is a significant hidden-file problem involved, most often seen in 
the o/s area, and it arises from mounts on top of disk areas. If hidden 
files are not recorded then the machine may not be put back together 
completely later on when it is needed most. Restoring hidden files has 
its own challenges, given that a mount may hide an area under normal 
operation.
     On hidden files on Linux, may I offer this advice. One may record 
them on POSIX file systems by using dump/restore xfsdump/xfsretore. 
Alas, these programs cannot write to hidden areas. The more clever
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Patrick Hasenjager | 4 Jan 2010 20:34

Intruder Lockout vs NMAS.NLM Intruder Detection Lockout

We are wondering the difference between an "Intruder Lockout" message on the server console and an
"NMAS.NLM Intruder Detection Lockout" message.  Basically, we need to know what causes each message.

>From my testing, I discovered that WebAccess (with LDAP enabled) causes the "Intruder Lockout" while a
Client (with NMAS Enabled) causes the "NMAS.NLM Intruder Detection Lockout."  I am being told, however,
that two accounts that were locked out happened when those people were not on campus (I know for a fact that
one of them was not).

Can anyone shed any light on the difference between the two messages?

Thanks.

 
Patrick A. Hasenjager
Network Administrator
Kansas City University of Medicine and Biosciences

phone 816.283.2478
fax 816.283.0692
email phasenjager <at> kcumb.edu
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Kevin Parris | 4 Jan 2010 22:57
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Re: Intruder Lockout vs NMAS.NLM Intruder Detection Lockout

I don't have any info on your direct question, but will offer the observation that presence or absence of the
human who is normally affiliated with any particular account may be irrelevant to "intruder lockout"
issues - while almost always (around here, anyway) it is the account owner mis-typing credentials that
brings this on, don't leave out the possibility that someone else might be doing something.

You might need to correlate details from various logs (firewall, web server, etc.) to pin things down,
especially if the human denies having done anything on the date/time in question.

>>> "Patrick Hasenjager" <PHasenjager <at> kcumb.edu> 01/04/10 2:34 PM >>>
We are wondering the difference between an "Intruder Lockout" message on the server console and an
"NMAS.NLM Intruder Detection Lockout" message.  Basically, we need to know what causes each message.

>From my testing, I discovered that WebAccess (with LDAP enabled) causes the "Intruder Lockout" while a
Client (with NMAS Enabled) causes the "NMAS.NLM Intruder Detection Lockout."  I am being told, however,
that two accounts that were locked out happened when those people were not on campus (I know for a fact that
one of them was not).

Can anyone shed any light on the difference between the two messages?
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Mark Robinson | 5 Jan 2010 12:04
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Re: First OES2 w/linux server

SEP rocks :-)

I have never seen a piece of backup software push data to tape as fast
as SEP!  It interleaves multiple jobs on to a single tape as well to
improve performance...

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>>> On 29 December, 2009 at 9:36 PM, in message
<4B3A05DA02000020000232F9 <at> GWISE.co.mason.wa.us>, "Bob Deans"
<rpd <at> co.mason.wa.us> wrote: 
> We are using Sep Sesam to backup all of our servers. It does a great
job  
> backing up NSS rights on OES. It is also the best priced backup
software I  
> could find.  
>  
>  
>>>> Bud Durland <budthegrey <at> gmail.com> 12/29/09 7:51 AM >>>  
> Other than PortLock, what are folks using to backup OES2? We're
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Mark Robinson | 5 Jan 2010 12:17
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Re: To VMI or Not to VMI?

One thing to watch out for is possible problems with the new novfs stuff
that's in SP2.  A colleague of mine had issues installing vmi after
having built a server.  There were incompatibilities between the kernel
modules.  Apparently this has been mentioned in the forums too.  The
official line is that VMI is a technical preview and is therefore not
fully supported.

Having said all that, with SP1 I ran VMI whenever possible and it was
magic :-)

Mark

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>>> On 30 December, 2009 at 5:35 PM, in message
<4B3B8F70.1010200 <at> crossflight.co.uk>, Guy Dawson
<guy <at> crossflight.co.uk> wrote:

> Michael Glenn wrote: 
> > Question: Is it worth the effort to utilize the VMI kernel on OES
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Hans Pfeil | 12 Jan 2010 21:10
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Migration Steps

Hey all,

Going to migrate an old server, NW6.5.8 with iFolder 2.x running to a brand new box also with NW6.5.8 and
iFolder2.x  The iFolder installation on the new box is my real concern.  Could I get some advice letting me
know if this sounds good.

1)  Prepare new server with the Pre-Migration template.
2)  Then install iFolder 
3)  Now migrate from old to new.

Thanks
Hans
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Steven Tharp | 12 Jan 2010 21:25
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Re: Migration Steps

Of course the first question to ask is with NetWare at end of life in a few months why not move to Suse and
iFolder 3 ?

Steven Tharp

 
"Hans Pfeil" <HPfeil <at> uca.edu> 1/12/2010 3:10 PM >>>
Hey all,

Going to migrate an old server, NW6.5.8 with iFolder 2.x running to a brand new box also with NW6.5.8 and
iFolder2.x  The iFolder installation on the new box is my real concern.  Could I get some advice letting me
know if this sounds good.

1)  Prepare new server with the Pre-Migration template.
2)  Then install iFolder 
3)  Now migrate from old to new.

Thanks
Hans

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