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Michael Mollard | 13 Oct 2011 00:39
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Brainshare 2011 videos

For those not in the loop, Brainshare is on this week in Salt Lake City.  The opening keynote videos have been
published http://www.novell.com/media/events/brainshare-2011.html
If you want to check out the new file product 'Novell Filr' (formerly Project Neutron) have a look at the
Novell, Part 2 Video.

Part 1 is President of Novell's address, some encouraging stuff in there.
Part 2 Novell Filr
Part 3 New "Groupwise 2012"
Part 4 ZCM11SP2

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Moreton Bay College
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Paul Bart | 13 Oct 2011 03:39
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Re: Brainshare 2011 videos

Wow, I got a fright, the deathly silence on Novell schools broken :)
 
And thanks Michael
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul

>>> On 13/10/2011 at 8:39 AM, "Michael Mollard" <MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:
For those not in the loop, Brainshare is on this week in Salt Lake City.  The opening keynote videos have been published http://www.novell.com/media/events/brainshare-2011.html
If you want to check out the new file product 'Novell Filr' (formerly Project Neutron) have a look at the Novell, Part 2 Video.

Part 1 is President of Novell's address, some encouraging stuff in there.
Part 2 Novell Filr
Part 3 New "Groupwise 2012"
Part 4 ZCM11SP2




Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au
http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
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<div>Wow, I&nbsp;got a fright, the deathly silence on Novell schools broken :)</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>And thanks Michael</div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
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<div>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 13/10/2011 at 8:39 AM, "Michael Mollard" &lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>For those not in the loop, Brainshare is on this week in Salt Lake City.&nbsp; The opening keynote videos have been published <a href="http://www.novell.com/media/events/brainshare-2011.html">http://www.novell.com/media/events/brainshare-2011.html</a><br>If you want to check out the new file product 'Novell Filr' (formerly Project Neutron) have a look at the Novell, Part 2 Video.<br><br>Part 1 is President of Novell's address, some encouraging stuff in there.<br>Part 2 Novell Filr<br>Part 3 New "Groupwise 2012"<br>Part 4 ZCM11SP2<br><br><br><br><br>Michael Mollard<br>Network Administrator<br>Moreton Bay College<br>mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au<br><a href="http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au">http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au</a> <br>Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801 <br>Fax: 07 3390 8919<br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Disclaimer: Whilst every attempt has been made to ensure that material contained in this email is free from computer viruses or other defects, the attached files are provided, and may only be used, on the basis that the user assumes all responsibility for use of the material transmitted. This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity names above and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return email or telephone 07 3390 8555 and destroy the original message. The contents of this message are provided without responsibility in law for their accuracy or otherwise, and without assumption of a duty of care by the School.<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>_______________________________________________<br>NovellSchools mailing list<br>NovellSchools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br><a href="http://lists.redlands.qld.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/novellschools">http://lists.redlands.qld.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/novellschools</a><br>
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CLARKE Jamie | 13 Oct 2011 06:27
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Re: Brainshare 2011 videos

I can change that LOL,
 
Thanks for the link Michael.
 
As some might know for the last 3 yrs State schools have been required to run Windows 2003 servers with AD as authentication and Win7/XP desktops.  What does this mean for old Novell schools - the disappearance of all novell servers eg Netware 6 at that time.
 
I have implemented ZCM 10/11 successfully on the new MOE structure (EQ`s Managed Operating Environment as above) and it works really well when novell dont mess up functionality with new SP releases. 
However I have been quite disappointed in MS Printing. 
 
Finally got around to installing SLES10SP4 with OES2SP3 on our old BM server to start investigating Printing which looks like iPrint is the way to go.  I am not going to pretend to be proficient in any of these two products (this is the first time looking at these products after using Netware 6) and this week has been quite a learning curve with multiple novell online doc windows consistently open on the desktop ;) 
 
I am really after what is the best way to access the file system on the SLES box when there are no novell clients and AD is the authenticating source.
 
I am realising I have made a mistake in using the default partition setup of SLES to assign all my space to Linux POSIX file system(Reiser) as I am left with no free space from what I see as necessary to create a NSS pool (sorry my SLES noobness is showing here should of realised this during install)
 
Are there other schools in my network situation & if so how are you utilising the SLES box, or are you all using the novell client which really makes it all that much easier to access.
 
Have looked at CIFS but requires NSS volumes (see partition issue above) & NCP on POSIX file systems but requires the novell client.......is there a way of resizing the linux partions safely?
 
Might need to restart install again as its not production only test at the moment so not a real issue.
 
Thanks in advance.
 

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100
http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au

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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2011 11:40 AM
To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Brainshare 2011 videos

Wow, I got a fright, the deathly silence on Novell schools broken :)
 
And thanks Michael
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul

>>> On 13/10/2011 at 8:39 AM, "Michael Mollard" <MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:
For those not in the loop, Brainshare is on this week in Salt Lake City.  The opening keynote videos have been published http://www.novell.com/media/events/brainshare-2011.html
If you want to check out the new file product 'Novell Filr' (formerly Project Neutron) have a look at the Novell, Part 2 Video.

Part 1 is President of Novell's address, some encouraging stuff in there.
Part 2 Novell Filr
Part 3 New "Groupwise 2012"
Part 4 ZCM11SP2




Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au
http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="724230204-13102011">I 
can change that LOL,</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="724230204-13102011"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="724230204-13102011">Thanks for the link Michael.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="724230204-13102011"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="724230204-13102011">As 
some might know for the last 3 yrs State schools have been required to&nbsp;run 
Windows 2003 servers with AD as authentication and Win7/XP desktops.&nbsp; What 
does this mean for old Novell schools - the disappearance of all novell servers 
eg Netware 6 at that time.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="724230204-13102011"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="724230204-13102011">I 
have implemented ZCM 10/11 successfully on the new MOE structure (EQ`s Managed 
Operating Environment as above) and it works really well when novell dont mess 
up functionality with new&nbsp;SP releases.&nbsp; </span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="724230204-13102011">H</span><span class="724230204-13102011">owever I have been quite disappointed in MS 
Printing.&nbsp;</span>
</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="724230204-13102011"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="724230204-13102011">Finally got around to installing SLES10SP4 with OES2SP3 
on&nbsp;our old BM server&nbsp;to start investigating Printing which looks like 
iPrint is the way to go.&nbsp; I am not going to pretend to be proficient in any 
of these two products&nbsp;(this is the first time looking at these 
products&nbsp;after using&nbsp;Netware 6)&nbsp;and this week has been quite a 
learning curve with multiple novell online doc windows consistently open on the 
desktop ;)&nbsp; </span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="724230204-13102011"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="724230204-13102011">I 
am really after what is the best way to access the file system on the SLES box 
when there are no novell clients and AD is the authenticating 
source.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="724230204-13102011"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="724230204-13102011">I 
am realising I have made a mistake in using the default partition setup of SLES 
to assign all my space to Linux POSIX file system(Reiser) as I am left with no 
free space from what I see as necessary to create a NSS pool (sorry my SLES 
noobness is showing here should of realised this during 
install)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="724230204-13102011"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="724230204-13102011">Are 
there other schools in my network situation &amp;&nbsp;if so how are you 
utilising the SLES box,&nbsp;or are you all using the novell client which really 
makes it all that much easier to access.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="724230204-13102011"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="724230204-13102011">Have looked at CIFS but 
requires NSS volumes (see partition issue above)&nbsp;&amp; NCP on POSIX file 
systems but requires the novell client.......is there a way of resizing the 
linux partions safely?</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="724230204-13102011"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="724230204-13102011">Might need to restart install&nbsp;again as its not production 
only test at the moment so not a real issue.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="724230204-13102011"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="724230204-13102011">Thanks in advance.</span></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), 
OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This 
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[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of 
Paul Bart<br>Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2011 11:40 AM<br>To: 
novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] 
Brainshare 2011 videos<br><br>
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<div>Wow, I&nbsp;got a fright, the deathly silence on Novell schools broken 
:)</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>And thanks Michael</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 13/10/2011 at 8:39 AM, "Michael Mollard" 
&lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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      <div>For those 
      not in the loop, Brainshare is on this week in Salt Lake City.&nbsp; The 
      opening keynote videos have been published <a href="http://www.novell.com/media/events/brainshare-2011.html">http://www.novell.com/media/events/brainshare-2011.html</a><br>If 
      you want to check out the new file product 'Novell Filr' (formerly Project 
      Neutron) have a look at the Novell, Part 2 Video.<br><br>Part 1 is 
      President of Novell's address, some encouraging stuff in there.<br>Part 2 
      Novell Filr<br>Part 3 New "Groupwise 2012"<br>Part 4 
      ZCM11SP2<br><br><br><br><br>Michael Mollard<br>Network 
      Administrator<br>Moreton Bay College<br>mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au<br><a href="http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au">http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au</a> <br>Ph: 
      (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801 <br>Fax: 07 3390 
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Douglas Pettit | 13 Oct 2011 06:32
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Re: Brainshare 2011 videos

How are all of our friends at Novell Schools?
 
We are embarking on trials of Novell Vibe & Novell Service Desk at the moment.
The addition of filr and GW 2012 to the list of products would definitely promote the cloud principle and allow for device agnostic learning.
Also looking at the potential of setting up Novell "Domain Services for Windows" to handle Apple Mac and AD authentication requirements for products such as Huelab.
 
Back end is all SUSE.
Current Novell product list;
Groupwise 8.02 SP3 (Clustered)
OES2 SP3 (Clustered)
iPrint
Netstorage
Zenworks configuration management
Data Synchronizer
 
Are any other schools using these products or has the move to sharepoint or other such services already been made.
 
As with most of you we have a quite a few MS servers in operation to facilitate admin systems, library systems, etc.....
 
regards,
 
Douglas.

 
Douglas Pettit
Director of IT Services
Trinity Anglican School
Ph: +617 4036 8111
>>> On 13/10/2011 at 11:39 AM, <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> wrote:
Wow, I got a fright, the deathly silence on Novell schools broken :)
 
And thanks Michael
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul

>>> On 13/10/2011 at 8:39 AM, "Michael Mollard" <MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:
For those not in the loop, Brainshare is on this week in Salt Lake City.  The opening keynote videos have been published http://www.novell.com/media/events/brainshare-2011.html
If you want to check out the new file product 'Novell Filr' (formerly Project Neutron) have a look at the Novell, Part 2 Video.

Part 1 is President of Novell's address, some encouraging stuff in there.
Part 2 Novell Filr
Part 3 New "Groupwise 2012"
Part 4 ZCM11SP2




Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au
http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
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<div>How are all of our friends at Novell Schools?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>We are embarking on trials of Novell Vibe &amp; Novell Service Desk at the moment. </div>
<div>The addition of filr and GW 2012 to the list of products would definitely promote the cloud principle and allow for device agnostic learning.</div>
<div>Also looking at the potential of setting up Novell "Domain Services for Windows" to handle Apple Mac and AD authentication  requirements for products such as Huelab.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Back end is all SUSE. </div>
<div>Current Novell product list;</div>
<div>Groupwise 8.02 SP3 (Clustered)</div>
<div>OES2 SP3 (Clustered)</div>
<div>iPrint</div>
<div>Netstorage</div>
<div>Zenworks configuration management</div>
<div>Data Synchronizer</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Are any other schools using these products or has the move to sharepoint or other such services already been made.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>As with most of you we have a quite a few MS servers in operation to facilitate admin systems, library systems, etc.....</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>regards,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Douglas.<br><br>
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div>Douglas Pettit<br>Director of IT Services</div>
<div>Trinity Anglican School</div>
<div>Ph: +617 4036 8111<br>
</div>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 13/10/2011 at 11:39 AM, &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>Wow, I&nbsp;got a fright, the deathly silence on Novell schools broken :)</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>And thanks Michael</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 13/10/2011 at 8:39 AM, "Michael Mollard" &lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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Craig Holyoak | 13 Oct 2011 06:43
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Re: Brainshare 2011 videos

On 13 October 2011 14:27, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
> Finally got around to installing SLES10SP4 with OES2SP3 on our old BM server to start investigating
Printing which looks like iPrint is the way to go.  I am not going to pretend to be proficient in any of these
two products (this is the first time looking at these products after using Netware 6) and this
week has been quite a learning curve with multiple novell online doc windows consistently open on the
desktop >
> I am really after what is the best way to access the file system on the SLES box when there are no novell
clients and AD is the authenticating source.

If all you want on the server is iPrint, you don't need any sort of
file access for clients. But if you also want to play with file
services, you're probably much better off re-installing and
configuring an NSS partition (does this still need to be on a separate
physical disk? I only work with VMs these days.). Then you can take
your pick from NCP, SMB or AFP. With NSS you get much more much easier
than you do with a POSIX filesystem - salvage, pools, compression,
trustees, etc.

Craig

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Craig Holyoak | 13 Oct 2011 06:51
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Re: Brainshare 2011 videos

On 13 October 2011 14:32, Douglas Pettit <dougp <at> tas.qld.edu.au> wrote:
> Back end is all SUSE.
> Current Novell product list;
> Groupwise 8.02 SP3 (Clustered)
> OES2 SP3 (Clustered)
> iPrint
> Netstorage
> Zenworks configuration management
> Data Synchronizer

We're the same here, but without the GroupWise/Data Synchronizer. We
migrated to Google Apps at the end of last year. We still have a few
legacy NetWare boxes, specifically ZEN7 (migration to ZCM11 is
incomplete) and iPrint (still dependent on Pcounter). We'll also have
finished our migration to OES2 for file services at the end of the
year. In addition to those listed, we also run Access Manager in front
of all our web services.

I have also been playing with DSfW, with a domain configured and it
works pretty well for a Novell Client-less PC with CIFS, etc. Still
treading carefully with it though.

Craig

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CLARKE Jamie | 13 Oct 2011 06:55
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Re: Brainshare 2011 videos

Hi Craig

I agree file access not necessary but something I wanted to explore further
and play with.  Looks like a re-install :)

Douglas have you done much investigating into DSFW - from the brief docs I
read I was under the impression it needed to do some adding to AD? which I
have a feeling I will not have the access to do - just depends on how much.

Thanks for the responses guys.

Jamie Clarke 
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100
http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au

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Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Brainshare 2011 videos

On 13 October 2011 14:27, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
> Finally got around to installing SLES10SP4 with OES2SP3 on our old BM 
> server to start investigating Printing which looks like iPrint is the way
to go.  I am not going to pretend to be proficient in any of these two
products (this is the first time looking at these products after
using Netware 6) and this week has been quite a learning curve with multiple
novell online doc windows consistently open on the desktop > I am really
after what is the best way to access the file system on the SLES box when
there are no novell clients and AD is the authenticating source.

If all you want on the server is iPrint, you don't need any sort of file
access for clients. But if you also want to play with file services, you're
probably much better off re-installing and configuring an NSS partition
(does this still need to be on a separate physical disk? I only work with
VMs these days.). Then you can take your pick from NCP, SMB or AFP. With NSS
you get much more much easier than you do with a POSIX filesystem - salvage,
pools, compression, trustees, etc.

Craig

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Douglas Pettit | 13 Oct 2011 07:07
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Re: Brainshare 2011 videos

From the support I have read I would tend to agree with you. It seems is it better defined as a mechanism to allow your AD devices / service a method to authenticate against a populated e-dir. Some of the support companies I have spoken to tell me it is harder to integrate if there is a pre-existing AD. I am yet to fully explore. just dipping my toe in to feel the temperature at the moment.
 
 
 


 
 
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Trinity Anglican School
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>>> On 13/10/2011 at 2:55 PM, <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Craig

I agree file access not necessary but something I wanted to explore further
and play with.  Looks like a re-install :)

Douglas have you done much investigating into DSFW - from the brief docs I
read I was under the impression it needed to do some adding to AD? which I
have a feeling I will not have the access to do - just depends on how much.

Thanks for the responses guys.


Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100
http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au

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Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2011 2:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Brainshare 2011 videos

On 13 October 2011 14:27, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
> Finally got around to installing SLES10SP4 with OES2SP3 on our old BM
> server to start investigating Printing which looks like iPrint is the way
to go.  I am not going to pretend to be proficient in any of these two
products (this is the first time looking at these products after
using Netware 6) and this week has been quite a learning curve with multiple
novell online doc windows consistently open on the desktop > I am really
after what is the best way to access the file system on the SLES box when
there are no novell clients and AD is the authenticating source.

If all you want on the server is iPrint, you don't need any sort of file
access for clients. But if you also want to play with file services, you're
probably much better off re-installing and configuring an NSS partition
(does this still need to be on a separate physical disk? I only work with
VMs these days.). Then you can take your pick from NCP, SMB or AFP. With NSS
you get much more much easier than you do with a POSIX filesystem - salvage,
pools, compression, trustees, etc.

Craig

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<div>Hi Craig<br><br>I agree file access not necessary but something I wanted to explore further<br>and play with.&nbsp; Looks like a re-install :)<br><br>Douglas have you done much investigating into DSFW - from the brief docs I<br>read I was under the impression it needed to do some adding to AD? which I<br>have a feeling I will not have the access to do - just depends on how much.<br><br>Thanks for the responses guys.<br><br><br>Jamie Clarke <br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named<br>above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright.<br>If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the<br>permission of the author.If you are not the addressee named above, you must<br>not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in<br>reliance on this message. You understand that any privilege or<br>confidentiality attached to this message is not waived, lost or destroyed<br>because you have received this message in error. If you have received this<br>message in error please notify the sender and delete from any<br>computer.Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this<br>message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of<br>the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and the Arts.Whilst<br>all care has been taken, the Department of Education and the Arts disclaims<br>all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this<br>message being infected by computer virus or other contamination.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Craig<br>Holyoak<br>Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2011 2:43 PM<br>To: Novell Schools<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Brainshare 2011 videos<br><br>On 13 October 2011 14:27, CLARKE Jamie &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; Finally got around to installing SLES10SP4 with OES2SP3 on our old BM <br>&gt; server to start investigating Printing which looks like iPrint is the way<br>to go.&nbsp; I am not going to pretend to be proficient in any of these two<br>products (this is the first time looking at these products after<br>using Netware 6) and this week has been quite a learning curve with multiple<br>novell online doc windows consistently open on the desktop &gt; I am really<br>after what is the best way to access the file system on the SLES box when<br>there are no novell clients and AD is the authenticating source.<br><br>If all you want on the server is iPrint, you don't need any sort of file<br>access for clients. But if you also want to play with file services, you're<br>probably much better off re-installing and configuring an NSS partition<br>(does this still need to be on a separate physical disk? I only work with<br>VMs these days.). Then you can take your pick from NCP, SMB or AFP. With NSS<br>you get much more much easier than you do with a POSIX filesystem - salvage,<br>pools, compression, trustees, etc.<br><br>Craig<br><br>--<br>Craig Holyoak<br>IT Support  <at>  Redlands College<br>cholyoak <at> redlands.qld.edu.au<br><a href="http://www.redlands.qld.edu.au/">http://www.redlands.qld.edu.au/</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>NovellSchools mailing list<br>NovellSchools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br><a href="http://lists.redlands.qld.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/novellschools">http://lists.redlands.qld.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/novellschools</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>NovellSchools mailing list<br>NovellSchools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br><a href="http://lists.redlands.qld.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/novellschools">http://lists.redlands.qld.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/novellschools</a><br>
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Michael Mollard | 13 Oct 2011 08:19
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Re: Brainshare 2011 videos

FYI
http://www.novellbrainshare.com/slc2011/published/bsslc2011/sessions/NOV139/NOV139.pdf

>>> "Michael Mollard" <MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> 13/10/2011 8:39 AM >>>
For those not in the loop, Brainshare is on this week in Salt Lake City.  The opening keynote videos have been
published http://www.novell.com/media/events/brainshare-2011.html 
If you want to check out the new file product 'Novell Filr' (formerly Project Neutron) have a look at the
Novell, Part 2 Video.

Part 1 is President of Novell's address, some encouraging stuff in there.
Part 2 Novell Filr
Part 3 New "Groupwise 2012"
Part 4 ZCM11SP2

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Michael Mollard | 13 Oct 2011 10:40
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Re: Brainshare 2011 videos

We are running Netware 65SP8 (till PCounter get their Linux version up - 
supposedly weeks away now),
OES2SP3 Cluster
  - Groupwise
  - File Storage (NSS)
ZCM10.3 (trying to move to 11.1)
ZAV
iPrint
NetStorage
Access Manager
Vibe (not in production yet)

Moving towards Sharepoint implementation, putting in IDM eDir <->AD for it.

I really want to look at the new Filr stuff, will be introduced in 
OES11, which is a month or 3 away.

Jamie, I'd suggest looking at OES Linux, running up NSS (must be on it's 
own partition until OES11), and then enabling CIFS.  Clientless 
workstations, but I haven't tried it myself.
If you have any boxes for virtualisation (eg SLES11SP1 -> XEN) then you 
can run it up in there ..

Let me know if you need a hand, or have questions.

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On 13/10/2011 2:51 PM, Craig Holyoak wrote:
> On 13 October 2011 14:32, Douglas Pettit<dougp <at> tas.qld.edu.au>  wrote:
>> Back end is all SUSE.
>> Current Novell product list;
>> Groupwise 8.02 SP3 (Clustered)
>> OES2 SP3 (Clustered)
>> iPrint
>> Netstorage
>> Zenworks configuration management
>> Data Synchronizer
> We're the same here, but without the GroupWise/Data Synchronizer. We
> migrated to Google Apps at the end of last year. We still have a few
> legacy NetWare boxes, specifically ZEN7 (migration to ZCM11 is
> incomplete) and iPrint (still dependent on Pcounter). We'll also have
> finished our migration to OES2 for file services at the end of the
> year. In addition to those listed, we also run Access Manager in front
> of all our web services.
>
> I have also been playing with DSfW, with a domain configured and it
> works pretty well for a Novell Client-less PC with CIFS, etc. Still
> treading carefully with it though.
>
> Craig
>
> --
> Craig Holyoak
> IT Support  <at>  Redlands College
> cholyoak <at> redlands.qld.edu.au
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