Re: XEN and VMDP?
Michael Mollard <michael.mollard <at> gmail.com>
2008-08-07 03:32:25 GMT
Craig,
Thanks for the info.
Just a point .. just because they are a set of Windows drivers, does
that necessarily make them proprietary? Is it not possible for a
company to write and release Windows drivers for a product, as open
source/non-proprietary?
Any news on whether the VMDP will ever make it's way into the SLA
agreement for schools, since the current price of about $100 per Windows
VM (or $1000 per unlimited Windows VMs/XEN Host) is pretty high compared
to other subscriptions.
Cheers.
Michael.
Craig Wiley wrote:
> Michael,
>
> The VMDP is not included with a SLES subscription. It is obviously
> proprietary software (being a set of Windows drivers) and cannot be
> included with an open source distributions such as SLES.
>
> As such, it is an additional purchase, per XEN host for a number of
> Windows VM's on top (I think you either buy a 4 pack for up to 4 vm's
> and an umlimited pack for as many vm's as you like).
>
> hth
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> Craig Wiley
> Director - Technology Specialists
> cwiley <at> novell.com <mailto:cwiley <at> novell.com>
> Desk +61 3 9520 3506
> Mobile +61 (0)409 397 663
> <http://www.novell.com/>
>
>
> >>>
> *From: * "Michael Mollard" <MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au>
> *To:* <novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au>
> *Date: * 6/08/2008 2:56 pm
> *Subject: * [NovellSchools] XEN and VMDP?
>
> Hi all,
> We are using XEN to test and deploy some systems (mainly Linux and
> Windows) for some simple servers. For Windows we use the Virtual
> Machine Driver Pack from Novell.com. It appeared soon after the SLES
> and XEN stuff appeared. It's required for Windows Paravirtualisation.
> Now we are getting mixed signals as to whether the VMPD is part of the
> SLES subscription, or if it is an add-on, purchased per VM required.
> It makes a bit of a difference to us.
>
> Does anyone know anything about this? Is anyone using XEN / VMDP?
>
> Cheers.
>
>
> Michael Mollard
> Network Administrator
> Moreton Bay College
> mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au
> http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
> Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801
> Fax: 07 3390 8919 ( http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au )
>
>
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Michael Mollard
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Moreton Bay College
Email: michael.mollard <at> mbc.qld.edu.au
Web: http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
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Craig,
Thanks for the info.
Just a point .. just because they are a set of Windows drivers, does
that necessarily make them proprietary? Is it not possible for a
company to write and release Windows drivers for a product, as open
source/non-proprietary?
Any news on whether the VMDP will ever make it's way into the SLA
agreement for schools, since the current price of about $100 per Windows
VM (or $1000 per unlimited Windows VMs/XEN Host) is pretty high compared
to other subscriptions.
Cheers.
Michael.
Craig Wiley wrote:
> Michael,
>
> The VMDP is not included with a SLES subscription. It is obviously
> proprietary software (being a set of Windows drivers) and cannot be
> included with an open source distributions such as SLES.
>
> As such, it is an additional purchase, per XEN host for a number of
> Windows VM's on top (I think you either buy a 4 pack for up to 4 vm's
> and an umlimited pack for as many vm's as you like).
>
> hth
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> Craig Wiley
> Director - Technology Specialists
> cwiley <at> novell.com <mailto:cwiley <at> novell.com>
> Desk +61 3 9520 3506
> Mobile +61 (0)409 397 663
> <http://www.novell.com/>
>
>
> >>>
> *From: * "Michael Mollard" <MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au>
> *To:* <novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au>
> *Date: * 6/08/2008 2:56 pm
> *Subject: * [NovellSchools] XEN and VMDP?
>
> Hi all,
> We are using XEN to test and deploy some systems (mainly Linux and
> Windows) for some simple servers. For Windows we use the Virtual
> Machine Driver Pack from Novell.com. It appeared soon after the SLES
> and XEN stuff appeared. It's required for Windows Paravirtualisation.
> Now we are getting mixed signals as to whether the VMPD is part of the
> SLES subscription, or if it is an add-on, purchased per VM required.
> It makes a bit of a difference to us.
>
> Does anyone know anything about this? Is anyone using XEN / VMDP?
>
> Cheers.
>
>
> Michael Mollard
> Network Administrator
> Moreton Bay College
> mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au
> http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
> Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801
> Fax: 07 3390 8919 ( http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au )
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Disclaimer: Whilst every attempt has been made to ensure that material
> contained in this email is free from computer viruses or other
> defects, the attached files are provided, and may only be used, on the
> basis that the user assumes all responsibility for use of the material
> transmitted. This email is intended only for the use of the individual
> or entity names above and may contain information that is confidential
> and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please note
> that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is
> strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please
> notify us immediately by return email or telephone 07 3390 8555 and
> destroy the original message. The contents of this message are
> provided without responsibility in law for their accuracy or
> otherwise, and without assumption of a duty of care by the School.
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Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
Email: michael.mollard <at> mbc.qld.edu.au
Web: http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
Phone: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801
Fax: 07 3390 8919
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