Larry Currie | 1 Nov 21:33 2002

See and See Also References in Koha

Dear Paul et al.,

We are one of the libraries in the U.S. that are keenly interested in
the development of Koha versions 1.3.x and 1.4 as a replacement for our
current automation system, and we are working closely with Ron
Wickersham in Santa Rosa, CA on this.  But one of the features our
current system has that is very important is the ability to have "see"
references and "see also" references in the catalog that result from
subject and name authority work done by our cataloguers and by the
Library of Congress.  Has any thought been given on the developers list
to having this ability in Koha?

Larry Currie

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Tonnesen Steve | 1 Nov 22:05 2002
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Re: See and See Also References in Koha

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Larry Currie wrote:

> We are one of the libraries in the U.S. that are keenly interested in
> the development of Koha versions 1.3.x and 1.4 as a replacement for our
> current automation system, and we are working closely with Ron
> Wickersham in Santa Rosa, CA on this.  But one of the features our
> current system has that is very important is the ability to have "see"
> references and "see also" references in the catalog that result from
> subject and name authority work done by our cataloguers and by the
> Library of Congress.  Has any thought been given on the developers list
> to having this ability in Koha?

Can you explain what this functionality does?  I'm guessing that it ties
one subject heading to one or more other subject headings.  A "SEE"
reference would tell the user to look at the reference instead of this
heading (implying that this heading shows nothing?), and a "SEE ALSO"
would tell the user to look at the reference in addition to this heading.

What else are these "SEE" and "SEE ALSO" references used for, besides
subject headings?  Are they stored in a MARC record somewhere, and, if so,
where?

Steve.

Bigwood, David | 1 Nov 22:22 2002

RE: See and See Also References in Koha

Steve,

There is a separate database holding MARC authority records. These records
can control all access points, authors, titles and subjects. Most of the
time they have SEE and SEE ALSO references. At times they have longer
explanations. They also may contain notes to the cataloger. For example, a
authority record for a series might contain a note telling the cataloger if
they are each classed by subject or if they are collected and classed as a
group. They are structured very much like MARC bibliographic records.
http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadhome.html In the more costly systems
the authority records are linked to the bibliographic record, so that a
change in the authority file automatically changes instances in the
bibliographic file.

Sincerely,
David Bigwood
bigwood@...
Lunar & Planetary Institute
Cataloging news: http://www.catalogablog.blogspot.com

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From: Tonnesen Steve [mailto:tonnesen@...]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:06 PM
To: Larry Currie
Cc: paul.poulain@...; koha@...
Subject: Re: [Koha] See and See Also References in Koha

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Larry Currie wrote:

> We are one of the libraries in the U.S. that are keenly interested in
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C David Rigby | 1 Nov 23:10 2002

Problems with Z39.50 - unix file permissions?

Dear (more knowledgeable than me) Ladies and Gentlemen,
	We have recently begun implementation of Koha 1.2.2 on a PC running 
RedHat 7.2 for the International Center at the University of Virginia. 
The server is iclibrary.lib.virginia.edu with the intranet interface 
being at iclibrary.lib.virginia.edu:8080.  I have been unable to get the 
Z39.50 module to function.  Any insight that you could offer on this 
would be greatly appreciated!

Here is a description of the problem:

I have downloaded and installed the latest Yaz rpm for the i386 
architecture.  When I attempt to run

/usr/local/koha-1.2.2/scripts/z3950daemon/z3950-daemon-launch.sh

as root, I get the message:

  -sh: /usr/local/koha-1.2.2/scripts/z3950daemon/z3950-daemon-shell.sh:
Permission denied

I have, through commenting out various lines, determine that it is this line
in z3950-deamon-launch.sh, near the end, where the problem occurs:

su -s /bin/sh -c $KohaZ3950Shell - $RunAsUser &

Why, I cannot determine.  RunAsUser=apache is set earlier in the script, 
and using the line

echo $KohaZ3950Shell $RunAsUser

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Tonnesen Steve | 1 Nov 23:18 2002
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Re: Problems with Z39.50 - unix file permissions?

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, C David Rigby wrote:

> /usr/local/koha-1.2.2/scripts/z3950daemon/z3950-daemon-launch.sh
> 
> as root, I get the message:
> 
>   -sh: /usr/local/koha-1.2.2/scripts/z3950daemon/z3950-daemon-shell.sh:
> Permission denied
> 
> I have, through commenting out various lines, determine that it is this line
> in z3950-deamon-launch.sh, near the end, where the problem occurs:
> 
> su -s /bin/sh -c $KohaZ3950Shell - $RunAsUser &
> 
> Why, I cannot determine.  RunAsUser=apache is set earlier in the script, 
> and using the line
> 
> echo $KohaZ3950Shell $RunAsUser
> 
> in place of the above su command returns
> 
> /usr/local/koha-1.2.2/scripts/z3950daemon/z3950-daemon-shell.sh apache
> 
> as one might expect.  The user apache is defined in /etc/passwd.

Check that the file z3950-daemon-shell.sh is readable and executable by
the apache user. 

ls -l z3950-daemon-shell.sh should show:

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C David Rigby | 2 Nov 14:27 2002

Re: Problems with Z39.50 - unix file permissions?

On Friday 01 November 2002 05:18 pm, Tonnesen Steve wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, C David Rigby wrote:
> > /usr/local/koha-1.2.2/scripts/z3950daemon/z3950-daemon-launch.sh
> >
> > as root, I get the message:
> >
> >   -sh: /usr/local/koha-1.2.2/scripts/z3950daemon/z3950-daemon-shell.sh:
> > Permission denied
> >
> > I have, through commenting out various lines, determine that it is this
> > line in z3950-deamon-launch.sh, near the end, where the problem occurs:
> >
> > su -s /bin/sh -c $KohaZ3950Shell - $RunAsUser &
> >
> > Why, I cannot determine.  RunAsUser=apache is set earlier in the script,
> > and using the line
> >
> > echo $KohaZ3950Shell $RunAsUser
> >
> > in place of the above su command returns
> >
> > /usr/local/koha-1.2.2/scripts/z3950daemon/z3950-daemon-shell.sh apache
> >
> > as one might expect.  The user apache is defined in /etc/passwd.
>
> Check that the file z3950-daemon-shell.sh is readable and executable by
> the apache user.
>
> ls -l z3950-daemon-shell.sh should show:
>
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paul POULAIN | 3 Nov 15:14 2002
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Re: See and See Also References in Koha

Larry Currie wrote:

>Dear Paul et al.,
>
>We are one of the libraries in the U.S. that are keenly interested in
>the development of Koha versions 1.3.x and 1.4 as a replacement for our
>current automation system, and we are working closely with Ron
>Wickersham in Santa Rosa, CA on this.  But one of the features our
>current system has that is very important is the ability to have "see"
>references and "see also" references in the catalog that result from
>subject and name authority work done by our cataloguers and by the
>Library of Congress.  Has any thought been given on the developers list
>to having this ability in Koha?
>
>Larry Currie
>
David Bigwood wrote :

>There is a separate database holding MARC authority records. These records
>can control all access points, authors, titles and subjects. Most of the
>time they have SEE and SEE ALSO references. At times they have longer
>explanations. They also may contain notes to the cataloger. For example, a
>authority record for a series might contain a note telling the cataloger if
>they are each classed by subject or if they are collected and classed as a
>group. They are structured very much like MARC bibliographic records.
>http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadhome.html In the more costly systems
>the authority records are linked to the bibliographic record, so that a
>change in the authority file automatically changes instances in the
>bibliographic file.
>
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Kevin Johnson | 5 Nov 00:48 2002
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z3950 stalls after one search

Hi. I recently install koha and it is mostly working. When I do a Z39.50 
search however, it will process the first item in the queue, but stall 
after that with other processes marked as pending. If I send a kill -HUP to 
z3950processqueue.pid it starts working on the next one, but this is 
probably not the desired behavior. If it makes a difference my RunAsUser is 
not "apache". Other than that I think I followed all the instructions, and 
it is sort of working. Any help would be most appreciated.

Kevin

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Senior Systems Analyst          4412 Spicewood Springs Rd -- Bldg. 600
(512) 471-0410                  Austin, TX 78759-8500
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Kevin Johnson | 5 Nov 00:55 2002
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Fwd: z3950 stalls after one search

I should have included this. I get the error message:

Z39.50 search daemon error: no process signalled.
There is a launcher for the Z39.50 client daemon in your intranet installation
directory under ./scripts/z3950daemon/z3950-daemon-launch.sh. This
script should be run as root, and it will start up the program running with the
privileges of your apache user. Ideally, this script should be started from a
system init directory so that is running after the machine starts up.

even though the process is shown in the process list. Thanks.

Kevin

>Hi. I recently install koha and it is mostly working. When I do a Z39.50 
>search however, it will process the first item in the queue, but stall 
>after that with other processes marked as pending. If I send a kill -HUP 
>to z3950processqueue.pid it starts working on the next one, but this is 
>probably not the desired behavior. If it makes a difference my RunAsUser 
>is not "apache". Other than that I think I followed all the instructions, 
>and it is sort of working. Any help would be most appreciated.

----
Kevin Johnson                   University of Texas, Institute for Geophysics
Senior Systems Analyst          4412 Spicewood Springs Rd -- Bldg. 600
(512) 471-0410                  Austin, TX 78759-8500
mailto:kevin@...      http://www.ig.utexas.edu

Tonnesen Steve | 5 Nov 08:56 2002
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Re: z3950 stalls after one search

On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Kevin Johnson wrote:

> Hi. I recently install koha and it is mostly working. When I do a Z39.50 
> search however, it will process the first item in the queue, but stall 
> after that with other processes marked as pending. If I send a kill -HUP to 
> z3950processqueue.pid it starts working on the next one, but this is 
> probably not the desired behavior. If it makes a difference my RunAsUser is 
> not "apache". Other than that I think I followed all the instructions, and 
> it is sort of working. Any help would be most appreciated.
> 

It is important that RunAsUser be set to the same user that your web
server process runs as.  The web server runs the cgi scripts which signals
the script to wake up and process new requests when new requests are
queued up through the web interface.  If the process is running as a
different user, the signal will not work, and the daeemon will never wake
up.

Steve.


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