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Willemse, Menno | 2 Mar 2006 11:11
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Re: Infrastructures.Org rework

Hello World,

From: Steve Traugott <stevegt <at> TerraLuna.Org>
> Everyone else; the question I have for you is this:  Would you be
> willing to contribute to a wiki or other community-edited repository
> of documents which serve as design patterns and RFC-like standards
> documents, in which, by contributing, you might be listed in a
> "contributors" section, but would not retain copyright in your
> contribution?

Why not bring the documents under the GNU Free Documentation License?
http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html

It will allow you to publish a book based on the documents, and basically do
whatever you said you wanted to do with it. It won't stop anyone else from
doing the same, though. So if you are of the opinion that if anyone is going
to make money of this, it'll be you, then it's not the license to use.

I must say that I quite like the idea of a community-edited repository on
this subject. I'm currently designing/building a Unix infrastructure here,
and I got several useful ideas off the infrastructures website. I'd be quite
willing to supply some patterns/antipatterns to the mix (my employer
allowing, of course).

Cheers,
  Menno Willemse

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Adrian von Bidder | 2 Mar 2006 11:50
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Re: Re: Infrastructures.Org rework

On Thursday 02 March 2006 11:11, Willemse, Menno wrote:
> Why not bring the documents under the GNU Free Documentation License?
> http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html

Note that some perceive the GFDL as problematic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Free_Documentation_License
http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml
http://home.twcny.rr.com/nerode/neroden/fdl.html

(But this is getting extremely off-topic - just wanted to make you aware of 
these issues if you aren't already.  Let's not discuss licenses here.)

cheers
-- vbi

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Marc Chiarini (Tufts | 31 Mar 2006 21:50
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Testing general system functionality via user simulation

Hello All,

I am trying to analyze program dependencies in Linux.  Does anyone know 
of any suite/testbed/infrastructure that would allow me to create 
"automated virtual users" that would run on real (or virtual systems), 
exercising various large subsets of software in a reasonable, if not 
realistic fashion?  I'm not sure that simulation of the systems and 
users will get me what I want.  I think I need something that sits on  a 
machine and pretends to be  something like a user, running various 
applications in different classes (I will settle for non-GUI ;).  There 
needs to be at least some minor variability to these virtual users' 
behaviors.  It is not important to my research that they be anywhere 
near realistic, as long as they are executing commands with reasonable 
parameters.

Another way that I might accomplish part of my goal is to utilize a test 
suite that runs (with a variety, but obviously not all parameters) as 
many non-root commands on a system as possible.  It seems that autoconf 
provides a limited infrastructure for doing something like this, but I 
haven't investigated it thoroughly.

If any or all of this seems laughable, please laugh away.  Sometimes 
it's all about the comedy.

Regards,
Marc

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Andrew Hume | 31 Mar 2006 23:38
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Re: Testing general system functionality via user simulation

surely this is just a batch engine thing.
i use a real simple one to do regression testing and performance 
benchmarking.
if this doesn't seem adequate, please explain why and we'll know better 
what you need.

andrew

On Mar 31, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Marc Chiarini (Tufts) wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I am trying to analyze program dependencies in Linux.  Does anyone 
> know of any suite/testbed/infrastructure that would allow me to create 
> "automated virtual users" that would run on real (or virtual systems), 
> exercising various large subsets of software in a reasonable, if not 
> realistic fashion?  I'm not sure that simulation of the systems and 
> users will get me what I want.  I think I need something that sits on  
> a machine and pretends to be  something like a user, running various 
> applications in different classes (I will settle for non-GUI ;).  
> There needs to be at least some minor variability to these virtual 
> users' behaviors.  It is not important to my research that they be 
> anywhere near realistic, as long as they are executing commands with 
> reasonable parameters.
>
> Another way that I might accomplish part of my goal is to utilize a 
> test suite that runs (with a variety, but obviously not all 
> parameters) as many non-root commands on a system as possible.  It 
> seems that autoconf provides a limited infrastructure for doing 
> something like this, but I haven't investigated it thoroughly.
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