xaml-talk | 5 Jan 04:00
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Poll results for xaml-talk


The following xaml-talk poll is now closed.  Here are the 
final results: 

POLL QUESTION: What is Your XAML Parser/Toolkit of the
Year 2004? 

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- MyXAML, 4 votes, 66.67%  
- MycroXAML, 0 votes, 0.00%  
- Microsoft XAML (Windows XP Edition), 0 votes, 0.00%  
- Microsoft XAML (Windows 2006 Edition), 0 votes, 0.00%  
- Mobiform XAML, 1 votes, 16.67%  
- Xamlon, 1 votes, 16.67%  
- Windows Forms Markup Language (WFML), 0 votes, 0.00%  
- Other (Please Post Your Comments To The List), 0 votes, 0.00%  

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Gerald Bauer | 6 Jan 03:33
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XAML- the 800 Pound Gorilla? - Kurt Cagle on the future of XML frameworks


Hello,

  allow me to highlight Kurt Cagle comments on XAML written up in the
blog story titled "XML In the Crystal Ball: The Rise of XML Frameworks".

  Kurt writes:

  XAML- the 800 Pound Gorilla?

  I've deliberately held off talking about XAML/Avalon until last.
XAML of course was one of the major stories of 2004, an XML based
application framework development being developed by Microsoft,
originally to be deployed as part of Longhorn. XAML represents a
critical turning point for Microsoft, although it has been moving
towards a more XML based representation of their underlying API for
years. XAML definitely falls into the frameworks category - with
thousands of tags and a rich, robust application model, XAML
represents an attempt to take Microsoft out of the API model that
predominated during the 1990s and into a just in time architecture
that stresses sophisticated data binding and a fairly daring move into
the 3D space.

There is no question that XAML is THE 800 pound gorilla in the XML
framework space. For a product that is still at least 18 months from
seeing the light of day, it is sending shockwaves throughouth the
industry, though its long deployment time may very well end up working
against it as it has given a deadline for many other companies and
open source movements to establish their own frameworks as a
consequence. As far as the technology goes, XAML is large and
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Gerald Bauer | 11 Jan 05:16
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MycroXAML - XAML Parser In Less Than 300 Lines Of C# Code


Hello,

  Marc Clifton's article describing MycroXAML - a XAML parser in less
than 300 lines of C# code is now also available at the United XAML
site online @ http://xaml.sourceforge.net/mycroxaml.html

   Thanks to Marc for the permission of republishing the article.

   Enjoy.

   - Gerald

PS: You can get the complete source for MycroXAML online @
http://sourceforge.net/projects/xaml (look for the mycroxaml package).
I will add Marc's article to the download package itself with the next
update.

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mite110011 | 15 Jan 00:37
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non-subscription Avalon SDK


repost from the microsoft.public.windows.developer.winfx.avalon 
newgroup...

Jason

Public November 2004 "Avalon" Community Technology Preview Including 
WinFX SDK

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=C8F904E1-
B4CA-402B-ACCF-AAA2BD60DA74

download:

http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/0/b/50bb27c1-5798-41d2-acc0-
c1a541a96bf8/Public%20November%202004%20Avalon%20CTP%20Release.msi

MSDN:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/Longhorn/understanding/pillars/avalon/avnov
04ctp/default.aspx

  http://msdn.microsoft.com/Longhorn/

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Gerald Bauer | 16 Jan 03:07
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Re: non-subscription Avalon SDK


Hello,

  if anyone tries out the WinFX package for Windows XP or Windows 
Server 2003 let us know how it goes.

  - Gerald

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Gerald Bauer | 18 Jan 04:19
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Article: Writing XAML Friendly Assemblies By Marc Clifton


Hello,

  Marc Clifton's article describing how to write assemblies so that
they will work with various XAML parsers is now also available at the
United XAML site online @ http://xaml.sourceforge.net/xaml-friendly.html

  Thanks to Marc for the permission to republish the article.

  Enjoy.

  - Gerald

PS: Note, that you can also find Marc Clifton's article titled
"MycroXaml - A Declarative Xml Parser In Less Than 300 Lines Of Code"
online @ http://xaml.sourceforge.net/mycroxaml.html

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Gerald Bauer | 18 Jan 04:45
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Macromedia Flash Engineer on XAML


Hello,

  allow me to highlight the blog story titled "Microsoft Avalon
remarks" by Tinic Uro who works as a Principal Engineer on the
Macromedia Flash Player.

   Tinic writes:

  I spent some time following what Microsoft and Apple are doing for
their new OS versions. The direction is clear: everything is moving
from pixel based graphics to vector data and extensive graphics
hardware support.

Microsoft file format solution is called XAML, which is a SVG
derivation in many points. But where SVG is incredibly complex, still
lacking some basic functionality, slow and almost impossible to
implement 100% correctly, XAML is simply to the point of what
developers and designers need. There are many reasons why XAML is
interesting, apart from the technical ones:

    * Totally new user experiences are possible, going away from the
classic widget based systems.
    * Reusing content and making changes becomes easier. Maybe this is
the perfect blend between skinning and code.
    * Designers can become more part of developing applications than
ever before. The key here is that Microsoft has to deliver on the
tools side. In the past they haven't shown a particular feel for
designers.

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Zeeshan Hanif | 18 Jan 20:06
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2 Questions???


Hello

     Can any one tell that:

     1) Is there any Drag and Drop facility in XAML, such as Draging an Control or
         Component by mouse click ?

     2) Is there any Layer facility in XAML an in HTML?

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Gerald Bauer | 18 Jan 21:37
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Re: 2 Questions???


Hello,

> 1) Is there any Drag and Drop facility in XAML, such as Draging an 
> Control or Component by mouse click ?

  It all depends on your underlying widget library e.g. WindowForms,
Gtk#, Qt# and so on. All these libraries support drag and drop, of course.

> 2) Is there any Layer facility in XAML an in HTML?

  Yes, in XAML "proper" there will be a XUL-like stackpanel. See
http://www.xulplanet.com/tutorials/xultu/stacks.html for details.

   - Gerald

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Gerald Bauer | 19 Jan 06:13
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XAML To Flash - Update From the Source - Comments?


Hello,

  allow me to highlight the Xamlon forum post titled "How far will you
go to support Flash".

  Tomas writes:

  I've been following Xamlon and cs2swf for some time now and had a
few questions regarding UI controls and C# events/properties.

1) As I recall, the event and UI control classes in cs2swf were
modeled after the native as2 "class" objects. Since the windows forms
and compact version of XAML run against the .NET Windows.Forms control
objects, how will Xamlon eventually bring these two worlds together?

2) Will XAML built w/ the Pro Windows.Forms edition be interchangable
with the Flash XAML compiler? (including the UI object's methods,
properties, and events)

3) Will the Xamlon compiler enable coding of Flash Applications via a
"flash compact" .NET Framework? This would imply that a limited subset
of .NET Framework namespaces/API beyond UI (such as: sockets,
reflection, data structures, and XML classes) could be brought in from
existing C# source and executed in the Flash Player VM.

Look forward to your thoughts.

  And Robin Debreuil from team Xamlon responds:

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