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subbukk | 1 Feb 2008 14:02
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Re: Etoys - create duplicate (not sibling) from a script?

On Thursday 31 Jan 2008 3:34:07 pm Scott Wallace wrote:
> Hi, Mark,
>
> You're right that there's no direct programatic way using tiles alone
> to obtain a proper "duplicate" (as opposed to a "sibling,") except (as
> Pierre-André suggests) by using "do menu item - duplicate,"

I dont see 'duplicate' entry in my version of etoys (2.3#1885). Is this 
controlled by any Preference setting?

Subbu
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Scott Wallace | 1 Feb 2008 19:54

Re: Etoys - create duplicate (not sibling) from a script?

Hi, Subbu,

You'll see it in the menu only if the eToyFriendly preference is  
false, in which case it can be found in the "halo actions..." submenu.

But even if eToyFriendly is *true*, making "halo actions..." not  
visible via the UI, you can still invoke it via do-menu-item.

Cheers,

   -- Scott

On Feb 1, 2008, at 5:02 AM, subbukk wrote:

> On Thursday 31 Jan 2008 3:34:07 pm Scott Wallace wrote:
>> Hi, Mark,
>>
>> You're right that there's no direct programatic way using tiles alone
>> to obtain a proper "duplicate" (as opposed to a "sibling,") except  
>> (as
>> Pierre-André suggests) by using "do menu item - duplicate,"
>
> I dont see 'duplicate' entry in my version of etoys (2.3#1885). Is  
> this
> controlled by any Preference setting?
>
> Subbu
>
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Alan Kay | 1 Feb 2008 20:45

Re: RE : Etoys - create duplicate (not sibling) from a script?

Hi Mark --

We should have done this better.

Here is how I handle things that are "like this" 
this may or may not work for your case.

If you build a bunch of components on a Playfield 
it is smart enough to act as a little name-space, 
so when it is copied all the links between the 
components will be preserved in the new composite 
object. (Again, we should do this better.)

So e.g. if you have an object that is controlled 
by a joystick morph, you can put both of these in 
a Playfield, copy the Playfield, and the new 
object and the new joystick will be linked.

Cheers,

Alan

At 02:04 AM 1/31/2008, Scott Wallace wrote:
>Hi, Mark,
>
>You're right that there's no direct programatic way using tiles alone
>to obtain a proper "duplicate" (as opposed to a "sibling,") except (as
>Pierre-André suggests) by using "do menu item - duplicate," which,
>unsatisfactorily, leaves the clone in the "hand" rather than allowing
>you programatically to place it where you wish.
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Timothy Falconer | 1 Feb 2008 23:39

new waveplace website, haiti video, etc.

Hi everyone,

Waveplace raises money to buy XOs for Caribbean children.  We're creating courseware to teach digital media skills.  We're training teachers to use XOs in constructionist ways.

And we have a new website:  http://waveplace.com

Of interest since last time ... 

1) Waveplace went to Haiti and made a wonderful video showing Susie Krabacher (subject of an upcoming major motion picture) with her kids and an XO:


2) we're a few weeks into our first pilot in St John ... the twenty kids are loving their XOs and Squeak Etoys.  See our press:


3) we've just published our first newsletter, which talks about these two efforts as well as another upcoming pilot on St Vincent:


4) Alan Kay and Kim Rose joined our board of advisors!   This is a very good thing, since we're focusing entirely on Squeak Etoys in our courseware.

If you haven't been to the site before, there's twenty video tutorials on Squeak Etoys, which people seem to like.   Another twenty are scheduled to appear this month.


Anyway, sign up for our monthly newsletter if you're interested, and pass the word if you have time.  We need all the help we can get.

Thanks,
Tim

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Timothy Falconer
Waveplace Foundation Inc.
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subbukk | 4 Feb 2008 08:22
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Re: Etoys - create duplicate (not sibling) from a script?

On Saturday 02 Feb 2008 12:24:30 am Scott Wallace wrote:
> Hi, Subbu,
>
> You'll see it in the menu only if the eToyFriendly preference is
> false, in which case it can be found in the "halo actions..." submenu.
Thank you, Scott and Andre. This option totally slipped my mind.

Scott's solution using a textual script is really neat. The playfield already 
keeps track of collections of Robots, so we could use it to track duplicates. 
The duplicate's position can be computed based on the cursor or count.

E.g. Playfield>>makeDuplicate
	self includeAtCursor: self getValueAtCursor costume duplicate player.
	self getValueAtCursor turn: 45; forward: 10; turn: 45

Regards .. Subbu
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[ANN] Squeak Foundation Election 2008 coming up!

(Ron beat me to it :) but this one is official)

Dear Squeakers,

A year has passed (oh, so quickly) and it is time to reflect a bit and
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This year I have stepped up as the election leader of 2008 relieving
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The schedule and process is as follows, only slightly adjusted from
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