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Randy Heiland | 1 Nov 2005 02:29
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Safari plugin problem

I'm just trying to figure out why the Squeak plugin isn't working in  
my Safari browser (OSX 10.x).  From this page:
http://www.squeakland.org/plugin/installers/mac-x-std.html
the 'table of supported browsers' link is currently dead.
I've downloaded it onto my Mac and I can run Squeak standalone fine.   
If anyone has a clue about getting the plugin working from Safari,  
I'd appreciate the help.

thanks, Randy
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John M McIntosh | 1 Nov 2005 03:43

Re: Safari plugin problem

I asked Randy for some more information and diagnostic info. I'll let  
the list know what I discover.

On 31-Oct-05, at 5:29 PM, Randy Heiland wrote:

> I'm just trying to figure out why the Squeak plugin isn't working in
> my Safari browser (OSX 10.x).  From this page:
> http://www.squeakland.org/plugin/installers/mac-x-std.html
> the 'table of supported browsers' link is currently dead.
> I've downloaded it onto my Mac and I can run Squeak standalone fine.
> If anyone has a clue about getting the plugin working from Safari,
> I'd appreciate the help.
>
> thanks, Randy
> _______________________________________________
> Squeakland mailing list
> Squeakland@...
> http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland
>

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Randy Heiland | 2 Nov 2005 02:20
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Re: Safari plugin problem

OK, I realize now what I did, or rather, what I didn't do.  I double- 
clicked the Squeakland.10.x.x.dmg to mount the volume, then double- 
clicked the 'Double-Click-To-Install.command' file to do the  
install.  However, I blindly assumed that it automagically did the  
install (keep in mind I'm still a Mac neophyte), but actually all it  
did was opened the file in the TextEdit app.  (To answer your offline  
question, John, I would then simply run the Squeak 3.0/image from the  
Squeakland volume).

Anyway, when I opened a Terminal and did a 'sh Double-Click-To- 
Install.command' to execute the installation script, it installed  
where it was suppose to, put the Squeak 3.0 icon on my Desktop, and  
now I can indeed run projects inside Safari.

Sorry for the noise.  Thanks for the hand-holding John,
--Randy

On Oct 31, 2005, at 9:43 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:

> I asked Randy for some more information and diagnostic info. I'll let
> the list know what I discover.
>
> On 31-Oct-05, at 5:29 PM, Randy Heiland wrote:
>
>
>> I'm just trying to figure out why the Squeak plugin isn't working in
>> my Safari browser (OSX 10.x).  From this page:
>> http://www.squeakland.org/plugin/installers/mac-x-std.html
>> the 'table of supported browsers' link is currently dead.
>> I've downloaded it onto my Mac and I can run Squeak standalone fine.
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John M McIntosh | 2 Nov 2005 03:32

Re: Safari plugin problem

Ok, I'm curious if you select the Double-Click-To-Install.command  
icon in a Finder window, then control-click and select Open With...
What does it say for your choices?

On 1-Nov-05, at 5:20 PM, Randy Heiland wrote:

> OK, I realize now what I did, or rather, what I didn't do.  I  
> double-clicked the Squeakland.10.x.x.dmg to mount the volume, then  
> double-clicked the 'Double-Click-To-Install.command' file to do the  
> install.  However, I blindly assumed that it automagically did the  
> install (keep in mind I'm still a Mac neophyte), but actually all  
> it did was opened the file in the TextEdit app.  (To answer your  
> offline question, John, I would then simply run the Squeak 3.0/ 
> image from the Squeakland volume).
>
> Anyway, when I opened a Terminal and did a 'sh Double-Click-To- 
> Install.command' to execute the installation script, it installed  
> where it was suppose to, put the Squeak 3.0 icon on my Desktop, and  
> now I can indeed run projects inside Safari.
>
> Sorry for the noise.  Thanks for the hand-holding John,
> --Randy
>
>

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Joshua Fein | 2 Nov 2005 09:27
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Alternate realities, anyone?

ALTERNATE reality

Doing this right would be extremely technical, in
terms of abilities required to implement.  I myself do
not yet possess that ability, and in truth have only a
limited desire to discuss the pro & cons of the idea.

Successful implementation would involve re-thinking
what happens when a class gets re-defined, a very
complex, system-level task. "Categories" would have to
be viewed as more fundamental units, perhaps.  Another
tier, "Alternates" above "Category" might resolve the
problem.  Have to think about this more.  Having it
mesh with the current "world" "project" scheme would
be a plus, only that is so complicated!

ALTERNATE worldS

--->right now the categories are only place-holders,
'comments' they do not have any effect on the system
itself.
--->right now, when a class with an existing name is
reentered under a new category, 
    it is removed, and it's unique methods added to
the class entered under the new category.

--->I was proposing that a change be made so that:

--->Classes may have the same names but be in
different categories.
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Bert Freudenberg | 2 Nov 2005 11:24
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Re: Alternate realities, anyone?

Hi Joshua,

what you propose is known in Computer Science as "Name Spaces", which  
allows you to call several things by the same name depending on  
context. In fact, there exists at least one implementation of name  
spaces for Squeak. It's actually not even that complex because of  
Smalltalk's powerful programming model, its late-bound nature makes  
those things much simpler than in other systems. A similar experiment  
was done with "isolated projects", where you could redefine classes  
in the system from inside a project, and when leaving that project,  
the changes were undone.

However, the best place to dicuss those ideas would be the Squeak  
developers mailing list (see http://squeak.org/Community/). That is  
where he Squeak "programmers" hang out. On this list we rather  
discuss Squeak as a Media Authoring Tool, mostly using the Etoys  
environment rather than Smalltalk, to, as Alan puts it, “Making the  
invisible a little more visible” via helping children learn powerful  
ideas by building them [*].

See you there!

- Bert -

[*] http://squeakland.org/pdf/etoys_n_learning.pdf

Am 02.11.2005 um 09:27 schrieb Joshua Fein:

> ALTERNATE reality
>
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Randy Heiland | 2 Nov 2005 11:40
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Re: Safari plugin problem

TextEdit (default), Terminal, Other...

And sure enough, if I select 'Terminal', it does execute that script  
and (re)install Squeak.  Maybe at some point I told my system to use  
the TextEdit app to open any file whose filetype suffix wasn't  
known.  Is ".command" some standard Mac suffix?

--Randy

On Nov 1, 2005, at 9:32 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:

> Ok, I'm curious if you select the Double-Click-To-Install.command
> icon in a Finder window, then control-click and select Open With...
> What does it say for your choices?
>
> On 1-Nov-05, at 5:20 PM, Randy Heiland wrote:
>
>
>> OK, I realize now what I did, or rather, what I didn't do.  I
>> double-clicked the Squeakland.10.x.x.dmg to mount the volume, then
>> double-clicked the 'Double-Click-To-Install.command' file to do the
>> install.  However, I blindly assumed that it automagically did the
>> install (keep in mind I'm still a Mac neophyte), but actually all
>> it did was opened the file in the TextEdit app.  (To answer your
>> offline question, John, I would then simply run the Squeak 3.0/
>> image from the Squeakland volume).
>>
>> Anyway, when I opened a Terminal and did a 'sh Double-Click-To-
>> Install.command' to execute the installation script, it installed
>> where it was suppose to, put the Squeak 3.0 icon on my Desktop, and
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Giovanni Corriga | 4 Nov 2005 22:36
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The Weekly Squeak No.9: October 16th - October 22th

Dear squeakers,

Hello, and welcome back to the The Weekly Squeak, a weekly report on
what's going on in the world of Squeak.

We're sorry for the delay in publishing this issue. To make amends, this
issue sports a double feature: an interview with Craig Latta, and a new
column named Focus, which provides more detailed reports on the main
events in the world of Squeak.

In this issue you'll find:

     1. Smalltalk at OOPSLA
     2. Four technologies that may challenge
     3. Bootstrapping a Squeak image kernel
     4. New Cryptography Team
     5. The art of visualizing object memory
     6. Fixing the underscore
     7. Flash support in Squeak
     8. Squeakware - Squeak-enabled Linux
     9. New QualityControl package
    10. Magritte framework now on SqueakMap
    11. Swazoo vs KomHttpServer
    12. New Team: Election
    13. Contributing to Smallwiki 1
    14. All The Squeaker's Repositories
    15. Upcoming Squeak Chats
    16. Focus: The Foundation is Squeaking
    17. SqueakViews: an interview with Craig Latta
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Giovanni Corriga | 7 Nov 2005 13:02
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The Weekly Squeak No.10: October 23rd - October 29th

Dear squeakers,

Hello, and welcome back to the The Weekly Squeak, a weekly report on
what's going on in the world of Squeak.

It's been just two days since the last TWS issue, and we're already back
with a brand new edition! That's because we're trying to reduce the gap
between the publishing date and the events we relate, to give you a
better service.

In this issue you'll find:

     1. Of images and projects
     2. Multiple metaclass hierachies
     3. Win32 installer for Squeak 3.8
     4. NetMorph 0.3 released
     5. More on Henrik Gedenryd's work
     6. New Mac VM
     7. An eToy success story
     8. A recollection of the Atari Smalltalk port
     9. A Smalltalk web browser
    10. Three Sokoban releases
    11. Three more Smalltalk videos on Google Video
    12. Squeak merchandise now ready to ship
    13. Another SUnit test runner
    14. BobsUI ported to Squeak 3.8
    15. Profiling a Squeak image
    16. Upcoming Squeak Chats

You'll find the complete report at
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Markus Gaelli | 9 Nov 2005 13:45
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PetriNets with EToys was: Fwd: [Squeak-fr] serious etoying :)

Hi folks,

just realized that Stef did not send this one to squeakland...

Begin forwarded message:

> From: stéphane ducasse <ducasse@...>
> Date: November 6, 2005 11:05:29 AM GMT+01:00
> To: Squeak in french / Squeak en français <squeak- 
> fr@...>, The general-purpose Squeak  
> developers list <squeak-dev@...>
> Cc: Patrice Moreaux <patrice.moreaux@...>
> Subject: [Squeak-fr] serious etoying :)
> Reply-To: Squeak in french / Squeak en français <squeak- 
> fr@...>
>
>
> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Teaching/CP/PetriNets/
>
> Stef
>
>

Don't miss the dining philosophers and the rest on:

http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Teaching/CP/PetriNets/Squeaklets/ 
examples.cgi

We plan to use this animations in our last lecture for comp.sc.master  
students about concurrent programming
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