Re: improving the quality of the image

Dear Bill,

you ask whether a test can be in more than one suite, absolutely.

First of all classes explicitly define and publish their own suites.

You could have:

#allStandardTests defined as all methods matching 'include:test*'
#testsBeingWorkedOn defined as methods in method category 'include <at> wip'

thus some tests may be members of both groups.

I shall append the relevant information from the class description for you

Keith

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More flexible suite building API:

Asking an abstract class for #suite: will build the entire suite for all 
of its concrete subclasses.
Asking a concrete class for #suite: will just return the suite for that 
one class.

Suites are defined as class methods for a testcase class.
example:

MyTestCase>>myTestSuite
        "all 'test*' methods, but not those in category 'long tests', or 

Re: Making Squeak more accessible and used - reversing the trend

Hi Brad,

It sounds to me (and appologize if I am guessing wrong) is that your goal is 
to make Squeak more wide spread, and bring underlying ideas into wider use 
and awarness. My theory is for a software product to achieve that is to:
	- attract more users
	or
	- atract more developers
and I think the recent history (Java, Microsoft's tools, Ruby) shows that 
attracting more developers is the way to do it. Also it may be that creating 
web browsers, email and office suites is the old territory, also, penetration 
against established products would be very difficult. I am not saying let us 
not do it, just speculating on options. I feel that for Squeak its power is 
in unchartered territories, things like Croquet and Tinlizzie (which I 
understand is generally direction of future eToys-like system). 

I think currently Squeak, mostly via eToys, is one of the very few great tools 
for children and non-developers which is great, but I would wish there are 
more developers attracted to Squeak. I read recently that if all the Squeak 
developers are gone, there will be noone developing the tools for kids. Going 
back for a minute to "succeed via attracting more developers", obviously if 
more developers can make some of their living from Squeak, that would be 
great. Also, for _new_ developers, it seems that the development environment 
fell behind it's apprentices, tools like KDevelop, Eclipse, Netbeans are far 
more pleasant and (cough) productive (I am coming from that direction, so 
cannot compare objectively, but feel that is the case). I guess overall I am 
trying to say better developer tools and PR may be a shorter way for Squeak 
promotion, but that does not mean the next great killer app could not be a 
web browser :) . 

Re: OLPC-like device...

The answer for both questions - a few apps I've written myself,  
things that were meant to be for Dynapad, but lack the polish to  
really share them. Very, very rough, but you always love your own  
children, eh?

The other big thing I do on any mobile device is reading books, and a  
simple .txt ebook reader is something I've been meaning to do for  
Squeak for a long time...

Regards,
Aaron

On Jan 31, 2007, at 12:28 AM, Brad Fuller wrote:

> Aaron Reichow wrote:
>> I do similar things that I do with my desktop- I use it for most  
>> of what
>> I do, with the exception of web browsing. For my PDA, that means:
>>
>> 1. Remote access via telnet and VNC
>> 2. Notetaking
>
> What do you use to take notes?
>
>> 3. PIM stuff (there aren't any PIM apps that come installed on the  
>> Nokia
>> tablets, so that's handy!)
>
> What PIM stuff do you use?
>

Re: Squeak Wiki Problem

"Ken Causey" <ken <at> kencausey.com> wrote:

> Finally I believe we have this licked.  Those of you behind a proxy that
> had trouble, please take the time to try to access the wiki again
> 
> http://wiki.squeak.org/
> 
> and let us know how it goes.

It works! Yay!
frank

Re: Squeak Wiki Problem

Ken Causey skrev:
> Finally I believe we have this licked.  Those of you behind a proxy that
> had trouble, please take the time to try to access the wiki again
>
> http://wiki.squeak.org/
>
> and let us know how it goes.
>   
I noticed that the Squeak Wiki administrator listed is Mark Guzdial. 
Should this link be updated ?
Karl
> Ken
>
> On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 12:41 -0600, Ken Causey wrote:
>   
>> I believe we have now tracked down the problem (for those behind
>> proxies) to an assumption in Swiki/Kom regarding a non-standard proxy
>> related header that is being broken and Swiki/Kom is not responding to
>> nicely.  I've notified Jochen of the problem and he has it near the top
>> of his todo list.  Hopefully within the next couple of days everything
>> will be copacetic.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 09:26 -0800, Alan Capewell wrote:
>>     
>>> Ken Causey wrote:
>>>       
>>>> David: Please try again, I think I have fixed the problem you and I saw.
>>>>

Re: Making Squeak more accessible and used - reversing the trend

LOL, this has been happening to me a lot lately. This is looking
exactly the sort of thing I had in mind in my first reply and I swear
I have never heard of it before today: http://www.zoho.com/notebook/

I guess you could say that where we use "DoIt" these guys use "DoneIt"
(joke, bad taste but I couldn't resist)

Re: Making Squeak more accessible and used - reversing the trend

Regarding "attracting more developers": before appearing critical I'd
like to say that *I see* the potential in Squeak/Smalltalk but I'm not
sure it is immediately apparent to many others (meaning those yet to
encounter Squeak/Smalltalk). This is not to say I have any sort of
special insight or anything but because of years of relying on other
developers to one extent or another it is refreshing to work in an
environment where each new nugget of learning contributes to my
knowledge of the *total* environment. There's no technology barrier at
which point I have to re-tool to gain deeper control of the
environment (beyond the obvious topic of customising the VM but even
this would be transitory (do it then just use it)). My only regret is
that I didn't "discover" it years ago. I'm also grateful that
experienced developers continue to improve Squeak but... (you knew it
was coming  )...

Squeak/Smalltalk has been around for years with I guess large numbers
of interested developers at one time or another but still has almost
*ZERO* mindshare in the general computer using population and, I would
also guess, close to zero in those that can or want to program. This,
IMHO, is not simply a pubilicity problem, it's a presentation problem.
Framed crudely: Squeak/Smalltalk *is* a great development environment
but a dire *user* environment. Yes, Morphic is way cool but most user
oriented "applications" are mashed up with non-application elements
and many an answer to newbies questions begin with "Open up a
workspace, type "blah new openInWorld", right-click, select "DoIt"...
I mean, COME ON! What century are we in? I say this somewhat
tounge-in-cheek because if you have convinced a newbie to do this then
you can immediately claim that they have written and executed their
first Smalltalk program ("there, that wasn't hard was it?" LOL).

[ANN] SIXX 0.2 is available for Squeak 3.9

Hi,

We have upgraded SIXX to 0.2. The new version is available for all
platforms (Squeak, VisualWorks, and Dolphin Smalltalk).

SIXX 0.2:
http://www.mars.dti.ne.jp/~umejava/smalltalk/sixx/index.html
(Also loadable from SqueakMap).
http://map.squeak.org/package/60663648-6b83-4b61-9f06-e58c33565d75/autoversion/5

SIXX now supports 'shape changed' class deserialization. Even if class
definitions are changed between SIXX file and the current image, you
can read the file via SixxShapeChangeReadStream.

Other features:
- Safer Boolean reading
- Added a new option "SixxSettings>>useNCR"
    - You can specify whether to write multi byte string by numeric
character references or not.
- Unicode string (de)serialization support (Squeak, VW)
- Added more hook methods for customizing serialization/deserialization.

More details are described here:
http://swikis.ddo.jp/umejava/40

Enjoy!
--

-- 
[:masashi | ^umezawa]

Re: Making Squeak more accessible and used - reversing the trend

[Fwd: Re: [Webteam] Portuguese european version - PhD research]

From: karl <karl.ramberg <at> comhem.se>
Subject: Re: [Webteam] Portuguese european version - PhD research
Date: 2007-02-01 13:22:11 GMT

I'll forward this to Squeak-dev
Someone there maybe more familiar with the development of the web plugin.

Great news that you translated Squeak to Portuguese.
I know there are a few Brazilian Squeakers, and OLPC is aiming at 
selling to Brazil so a Portuguese translation is really needed.

Karl

Luís Valente skrev:
>
> Dear friends,
>
> I'm making my PhD research using squeak in Portuguese (European) who I 
> finish to translate. Sure it still have some adjustments for what I 
> have a small community of users, mainly primary school teachers and 
> their pupils.
> I compiled the VM in Portuguese too, but I can't find the source files 
> for the web plug-in. Can you help me with the plug-in?
> I will liberate the translation as soon as it has tested, means no 
> more than a month.
> I’m waiting to hear from you.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Luis Valente
>
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