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Raab, Andreas | 22 Apr 1999 03:06
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RE: A wrinkle in the release process

Just as a follow up: I'm about to do the same for the Windows package (e.g.,
remove it IMMEDIATELY and put a Squeak2.4a out as soon as Dan puts out the
new image).

Sorry for the inconvenience,
  Andreas
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> From: 	Dan Ingalls
> Reply To: 	squeak <at> cs.uiuc.edu
> Sent: 	Wednesday, April 21, 1999 6:05 PM
> To: 	squeak <at> cs.uiuc.edu
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> Subject: 	A wrinkle in the release process
> 
> Folks -
> 
> It turns out that the very last proceedure in the relase process failed,
> and so the released 2.4 image lacks a few minor updates and, most
> importantly, is not marked as 2.4.  This totally confuses the updates
> mechanism.
> 
> You may continue to enjoy your Squeak 2.4 if you have already fetched it,
> however...
>
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Reinier van Loon | 5 Apr 1999 21:57
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[REQ]Remove InputSensor>>mousePoint

Dan et al.,

while studying InputSensor I found that it has 3 methods to answer the
coordinates of the cursor:

a) mousePoint    = ^ self primMousePt
b) cursorPoint     = ^ self cursorPoint
c) primMousePt  =  <primitive: 90>

mousePoint has 11 senders, cursorPoint has 226! and primMousePt just 1.

Funny, the slowest method is used the most...

I propose:

a) to remove mousePoint;
b) implement cursorPoint as <primitive: 90>.

Cheers, Reinier.
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Dino | 7 Apr 1999 21:37
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ICQ for squeak?

Hello,

I wonder if there is ICQ for squeak...  ??

If not, I'll try and make one...  but I'd rather not waste my time if there is
already one out there.

thanks.

-- Dino
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Raab, Andreas | 30 Apr 1999 00:43
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RE: Separating virtual machine and image files on Windows NT

I can't replicate the problem so far. Please note that you will not be able
to open the same image multiple times without getting the warning about a
'missing' changes file. This is because Squeak keeps the changes file open
for write during the entire session and this prevents another session to
open the very same changes file.

In general, I always have VM/Sources separate from (multiple) image/changes
and I never had any problems with it. I have some questions that may help me
to clarify what's going on:

What does the title bar of the main window say? Does it display the actual
image name correctly? 

After starting, if you click away the warning and open up a file browser,
what directory are you in? Is it the same as the image directory (which
should be the case) and can you see the changes file from there?! Given that
this is the case, when you're clicking on it, do you see the first n lines?!

What does the short cut look like?! Do you refer only to the image (assuming
that you have associated the *right* VM with '.image') or do you explicitly
specify the VM to use?!

Thanks for any information you can provide,
  Andreas
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Andrew C. Greenberg | 30 Apr 1999 02:51
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[BUG] Play With Me 5 Misbehaving

On Squeak 4.2b on my iMac (with all upgrades presently on-line 
installed), I can't seem to get PWM5 to work.  When I deiconicize the 
window, the system freezes, and Command-dotting out of it leads to a 
parade of error notifiers.

Am I the only one?
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Tim Rowledge | 6 Apr 1999 02:10

Re: upgrade766Sundry2-di problems


> Are you using a new (764 or later) VM?
> It may be necessary to get through all the Sundrys with an old VM.
Ah. Yes, at home I was using a new VM made from post-764 interp.c, and when
tried back at work it was ok. I can't quite wokr out whether that is backward
or forward incompatability....

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Allen Wirfs-Brock | 9 Apr 1999 23:31
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Re: [BUG]?? Problem sending allSubclasses to Object

At 11:16 AM 4/9/99 PDT, Carl Gundel wrote:
>Aha!  I didn't notice that Object>>allSubclasses returns both classes 
>AND metaclasses.  It does this in VisualWorks and Squeak.  
>VisualSmalltalk on the other hand, does behave as I thought (returns 
>like kind, either class or metaclass).  Of course I realize that 
>MetaClasses are subclassed from Object.  Personally I prefer the 
>VisualSmalltalk behavior because it lets me easily get classes and 
>metaclasses independently, or both.
>
>I wonder if the ANSI standard defines behavior for this.
>

5.3.8 Protocol: <classDescription>
Conforms To
<Object>
Description
This protocol describes the behavior of *class objects*. It provides
messages for identifying and locating *class objects* within the class
hierarchy.

....

5.3.8.1 Message:	allSubclasses
Synopsis
Return all subclasses of a class.
Definition: <classDescription>
If the receiver is a *class object*, return a collection containing all of
the *class objects* whose *class definitions* inherit either directly or
indirectly from the *class definition* of the receiver.
If the receiver is not a *class object*, the result is unspecified.
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Markus Kohler | 15 Apr 1999 09:56
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Re: Thinking about a better UI

Patrick Logan wrote:
> 
>     So, I ask: do we really need these overlapping user-movable,
>     user-resizable windows to contain and display our work?  I'd like
>     to see some form of intelligent, dynamic tiling that makes all of
>     my work maximally visible and tractable nearly all of the time.
>     That project windows are auto-aligned with each other when
>     minimized is a step in this direction.  The way the flaps work is
>     great, too.  We need more of this sort of thing.
> 
> I use Emacs for everything. Everything, except when I can't, like
> for example Squeak and Netscape. But all of my Gemstone Smalltalk and
> Java development takes place in Emacs, 

Which mode do you use for Gemstone Smalltalk ?

[deletia]

Markus
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Dan Ingalls | 15 Apr 1999 07:34
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Re: [BUG] EmphasizedMenu Appears Broken Under 2.4 beta

>At any rate, (i) the class examples seem to exhibit the "SmallInteger 
>size" bug; (ii) emphases appear correctly under MVC, but not under 
>Morphic; and (iii) the return value, at least in Example 1, appears 
>to be incorrect.
>
>(i) appears to be new with 2.4 beta.  The others seem to appear in 
>earlier versions.

By complete coincidence, I just went through this code (it was as part of completing the ability to throw out
all MVC Views and Controllers and the old Paragraph class (not that we would ever really do such a thing
;-)).  In the process I fixed (i) and (ii).  (iii) is because the example method lacks a return arrow.  I'll fix
this too.

The changes will be included in 2.4.

And, for those who read this far...

The Squeak team is away for a few days.  I decided to hold 2.4 because we have two fantastic new 3D toys just
working and we couldn't resist throwing them in.   We will shake these down for a couple of days and put it out
next week.  Sorry for the delay, but I think you'll find it worth the wait.

	- Dan
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jecel | 15 Apr 1999 01:35
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Re: Thinking about a better UI

I find it very ironic that none of the Windows users I know actually do
use "windows". All their applications run in the "maximized" mode and they
switch between them using the buttons on the bar at the bottom of the
screen.

Anyway, if anyone is interested in why I think windows were a good idea
I have a non published paper from 1991 at:

  http://www.lsi.usp.br/~jecel/jpaper8.html

-- Jecel
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