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강진오 | 3 Jul 2012 14:29
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Re: how do I import an picture...?

So, do you mean importing image data into a variable or showing it up in the screen (as Morph)?

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2012. 6. 28. 오후 7:06에 "OrgmiGeek" <cool.origami.1 <at> gmail.com>님이 작성:
how do I import an picture (such as a  png or jpg) into the squeak image.

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Sung won Lim | 4 Jul 2012 15:05
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looking for mentors

Hi,


I'm a student living in nyc area. I've been tinkering around with squeak for a while now and think it's a really promising platform for developing bioinformatics tools aimed at high school students working in biology laboratory settings. 

I'd love to be able to receive mentorship and trade notes with someone well versed in the language. I'm willing to teach you how to screen your own genomes and barcode DNA of different organisms if you want. Anyone up for it? 

-sung 
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David Corking | 4 Jul 2012 15:19

Re: looking for mentors

Hi,

I can't offer mentoring, as I can't say I am well-versed in Smalltalk:
more of a novice intermediate level programmer with an immediate
ambition to become fluent in Smalltalk.

However I find your proposal immediately fascinating, and would be
glad to join you in an online study group: either on this mailing list
or elsewhere. I really want to learn some practical bioinformatics!

Best regards, David

p.s. I see you are a fan of either T.S. Eliot or Iain M. Banks, so an
immediate thumbs up from me.
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Chris Cunnington | 4 Jul 2012 16:08
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Re: looking for mentors

On 12-07-04 9:05 AM, Sung won Lim wrote:
Hi,

I'm a student living in nyc area. I've been tinkering around with squeak for a while now and think it's a really promising platform for developing bioinformatics tools aimed at high school students working in biology laboratory settings. 

I'd love to be able to receive mentorship and trade notes with someone well versed in the language. I'm willing to teach you how to screen your own genomes and barcode DNA of different organisms if you want. Anyone up for it? 

-sung 


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Hi Sung,

How about you get your start here on this list. Get your basic questions answered. Then move to the Squeak-dev list.
What you're studying and how you plan to use Squeak sounds fascinating. Members of the Squeak-dev list would be very interested in your work.

One thing about mentorship is that is sounds private. At Squeak we'd like to share what your doing (unless part of it is secret, of course) with a wide number of people as a demonstration of how Squeak can be used. Perhaps you'd start a blog to document how Squeak can be used for your work?

I'm sure your questions can be answered here. There are also lots of videos on YouTube for getting started.

Thanks,
Chris 

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Steve Thomas | 4 Jul 2012 23:17

Re: looking for mentors

+1 for keeping it on a public list.  I would be very interested and can help if we put part of it in Etoys (but don't know squeak that well).  If can do some things in Etoys, it can be used in OLPC deployments.


Thanks,
Stephen

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Chris Cunnington <smalltalktelevision <at> gmail.com> wrote:
On 12-07-04 9:05 AM, Sung won Lim wrote:
Hi,

I'm a student living in nyc area. I've been tinkering around with squeak for a while now and think it's a really promising platform for developing bioinformatics tools aimed at high school students working in biology laboratory settings. 

I'd love to be able to receive mentorship and trade notes with someone well versed in the language. I'm willing to teach you how to screen your own genomes and barcode DNA of different organisms if you want. Anyone up for it? 

-sung 


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Hi Sung,

How about you get your start here on this list. Get your basic questions answered. Then move to the Squeak-dev list.
What you're studying and how you plan to use Squeak sounds fascinating. Members of the Squeak-dev list would be very interested in your work.

One thing about mentorship is that is sounds private. At Squeak we'd like to share what your doing (unless part of it is secret, of course) with a wide number of people as a demonstration of how Squeak can be used. Perhaps you'd start a blog to document how Squeak can be used for your work?

I'm sure your questions can be answered here. There are also lots of videos on YouTube for getting started.

Thanks,
Chris


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Bruce Prior | 6 Jul 2012 17:24
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Object Domain

I see the term object domain used a lot these days but I'm hardpressed to understand what it actually is.

Can someone please tell me what an object domain is and perhaps give an example?

many thanks.

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Chris Cunnington | 6 Jul 2012 17:30
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Re: Object Domain

On 12-07-06 11:24 AM, Bruce Prior wrote:
I see the term object domain used a lot these days but I'm hardpressed to understand what it actually is.

Can someone please tell me what an object domain is and perhaps give an example?

many thanks.

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I'll take a shot and somebody can correct me. The domain is related to your data, your database, how you modeled the problem into pieces of data. So the object domain would be the objects related to holding or delivering data from you persistence/database.

In the MVC, model/view/controller, pattern the model is the data/database. The view presents it to an input device i.e. screen or web page. The controllers work between the two.

The object domain would be the model objects. A SQL database, say.

That's my take.

Chris 

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David Mitchell | 6 Jul 2012 23:42
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Re: Object Domain

If you were modeling a soda can vending machine, you might have classes to model the domain including Can, Money, and Dispenser. Example from: http://www.amazon.com/Object-Oriented-Programming-Yourdon-Press-Computing/dp/013032616X

I think a lot of people think of the domain as the database, but I've always thought of the database as how you store your domain model, not the domain model itself. 

The object store is concerned with state. Domain objects have state and behavior.


Note that many systems written in object-oriented languages don't have domain models by this definition. Compare with, say, Table Model from the same book.

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On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Chris Cunnington <smalltalktelevision <at> gmail.com> wrote:
On 12-07-06 11:24 AM, Bruce Prior wrote:
I see the term object domain used a lot these days but I'm hardpressed to understand what it actually is.

Can someone please tell me what an object domain is and perhaps give an example?

many thanks.

Bruce Prior


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I'll take a shot and somebody can correct me. The domain is related to your data, your database, how you modeled the problem into pieces of data. So the object domain would be the objects related to holding or delivering data from you persistence/database.

In the MVC, model/view/controller, pattern the model is the data/database. The view presents it to an input device i.e. screen or web page. The controllers work between the two.

The object domain would be the model objects. A SQL database, say.

That's my take.

Chris


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Casey Ransberger | 7 Jul 2012 19:17
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Re: Object Domain

I agree with David's statement below, generally. It's worth noting that in Smalltalk, our object memory +
virtual machine together serve as a kind of non-relational database which preserves both state and
behavior, but one doesn't generally have to think about it and that's beautiful:)

Even in SQL one has triggers and stored procedures, so perhaps the distinction is pervasively arbitrary.
Someday we may have fast non-volatile RAM and no separate long term storage, at which point databases and
persistence as we popularly think about them may even disappear entirely.

One of Smalltalk's offspring, the Self language, uses message sends (as far as the programmer is
concerned) to access state, and thus does away with assignment in the usual/low-level sense. This is fun
to think about (for me anyway!) 

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think of "object domain" and "object model" (where the
word model is distinct from and more general than the Model in MVC) as being interchangeable. 

I think of an object domain as just the set of objects which implements a feature or solves a problem. I
suppose I may have my terminology mixed up though, so sound off if I'm wrong here folks:) 

--Casey Ransberger

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> I think a lot of people think of the domain as the database, but I've always thought of the database as how you
store your domain model, not the domain model itself.
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Dr. Alexander Klein | 10 Jul 2012 17:25
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How to add/enable speech synthesis?

Hello,

I just wanted to experiment with speech synthesis in Squeak 4.3 All-in-one, but after an hour or so of
browsing I still can't find where to enable it. I thought I'd find it in SqueakMap, but it doesn't seem to be there.

Can anyone give me a hint?

Thank you in advance,

	Alex

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