15 May 2013 19:52
[Pharo-dev] About the Mailinglist debacle...
Hello, So now that everything is working… sorry for the mess. We should have left the gforge infrastructure the last time we had a multi-day problem, not wait till we get it again. I think this will be my new principle: second real problem -> I leave. No discussions. We already saw with the jenkins story just how deadly bad infrastructure is. So what happened was that last Tuesday, the lists (all lists of gforge) stopped delivering. Why is not clear, seemingly it was not gforge itself but the upstream servers did not deliver. Whatever. What is clear is that it was completely unclear how long this would take, and that we needed a solution after nearly a week of waiting. So we decided to move the lists. Of course with the old lists down, this was harder than normal (even involved parsing the html to get the subscribers…) but that is not important. Now the problem its hat Mailman does not distinguish between people that unsubscribe, and those turning off delivery. So there where just a lot of people listed with "nomail (U)", What to do? It was clear that we can't just subscribe lots of people to a list that they *actively* unsubscribed. So the only option was to skip those by -> unsubscribing them from the old list -> then get the list of subscribers -> put that in the new list. The only people that will see a bad effect are those using e.g nabble to read the list. But those would see the new mails, too. The only problem they have is if the want to send. So not *that* of(Continue reading)
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