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Tobias Peters | 1 Aug 2004 01:26
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[ANN] ncurses-ruby-0.9.1

A pure bugfix release of ncurses-ruby is available from
http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=273

ncurses-ruby is a ruby-binding for the ncurses library.
http://ncurses-ruby.berlios.de/

Changes in this version:
- Bugfix in *in*str functions (reported by Hiroshi Sainohira)
- Fix linking error on Mac OS X and some other platforms (reported by 
Andreas Schwarz)

Tobias
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Lothar Scholz | 1 Aug 2004 01:57

Re: Free(real Free) GUI toolkits

Hello David,

>> I haven't tried this (or even heard of it before),
>> but it does sound
>> interesting.
DR> It was a project started in 2000. It died in 2002, the
DR> author revived it. I hope people to contribute code. I
DR> will create X widgets myself for commercial purposes,
DR> and submit them. Just because it isnt LGPL or
DR> GPL(restrictive licenses).

I hate myself for asking this question:
But what is so wrong with the LGPL in an object oriented GUI toolkit
where you can create commercial X widgets without any problems for any
purpose. I'm speaking about GTK/FOX/FLTK/TK here.

DR> No, it does not have MDI.  I think I will promote the
DR> WideStudio and convince people that it can be a good
DR> widely used future toolkit. It still lacks many common
DR> widgets. That doesn't bother me since I know X
DR> programming well though :). I do see a bright future
DR> in this toolkit if it remains free. I would definitely
DR> like to see it used in commercial applications, Widget
DR> creation is not very difficult, it just takes a bit of
DR> X programming with the C language. 

I believe that the world really don't need another toolkit, with a lot
of common widgets still missing. Widget creation is also not very
difficult in any toolkit (TK may be an exception).
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David Ross | 1 Aug 2004 03:27
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Re: Free(real Free) GUI toolkits

> I hate myself for asking this question:
> But what is so wrong with the LGPL in an object
> oriented GUI toolkit
> where you can create commercial X widgets without
> any problems for any
> purpose. I'm speaking about GTK/FOX/FLTK/TK here.

LGPL has strings, if you don't believe me, reread the
license. Look at the clauses about distributing
non-source binary applications. Then take a really
good look at the clauses in wx and FOX (LGPL and the
wx license) about binary objects(*note: binary objects
are *NOT* binary executables). Thank you for your
input.

> I believe that the world really don't need another
> toolkit, with a lot
> of common widgets still missing. Widget creation is
> also not very
> difficult in any toolkit (TK may be an exception).

This toolkit is more flexible than FOX or
wxWidgets(wxWindows) will ever be. WS was designed for
embedded systems, I am glad that the design works on
nix and windows.

I am glad to use WS now, it has proved more worthy
than  FOX,GTK, and Wx. Big deal it lacks the more
common widgets you would find in GTK, or even Qt.
Hopefully, people will support this better toolkit.
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David Ross | 1 Aug 2004 03:30
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Re: Free(real Free) GUI toolkits

Oh a correction, by binary, I meant statically linked
and binary.
--- David Ross <drossruby <at> yahoo.com> wrote:

> > I hate myself for asking this question:
> > But what is so wrong with the LGPL in an object
> > oriented GUI toolkit
> > where you can create commercial X widgets without
> > any problems for any
> > purpose. I'm speaking about GTK/FOX/FLTK/TK here.
> 
> LGPL has strings, if you don't believe me, reread
> the
> license. Look at the clauses about distributing
> non-source binary applications. Then take a really
> good look at the clauses in wx and FOX (LGPL and the
> wx license) about binary objects(*note: binary
> objects
> are *NOT* binary executables). Thank you for your
> input.
>  
> > I believe that the world really don't need another
> > toolkit, with a lot
> > of common widgets still missing. Widget creation
> is
> > also not very
> > difficult in any toolkit (TK may be an exception).
> 
> This toolkit is more flexible than FOX or
> wxWidgets(wxWindows) will ever be. WS was designed
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Chris Dutton | 1 Aug 2004 04:46
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Re: Cool use of Ruby as extension language

Asfand Yar Qazi wrote:
> Shame its Windows only though.

Heh.  I was thinking it's a shame the author used "return" so many times.
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Eric Hodel | 1 Aug 2004 05:05
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Re: SSL Communication

bigbrother <at> 1984.cz (bigbrother <at> 1984.cz) wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have server client application which communicate throught TCP socket.
> 
> I would like to encrypt their communication using ssl lib. 
> 
> Unfortunelly, the documentation of openssl is very brief.
> 
> Does anybody can send me a link to some tutorial (googling was 
> unsuccessfull) of very simple example?

Look at drb/ssl.rb in the standard library.

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David Ross | 1 Aug 2004 07:48
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Re: Free(real Free) GUI toolkits

Hmm.. does anyone have a MacOSX computer they can try
out WideStudio on? I am curious to see if it is
portable to the mac.

WideStudio has plenty of widgets btw. I just didn't
play enough with the wsbuilder.

I guess things like MDI forms are not important :)

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GOTOU Yuuzou | 1 Aug 2004 09:09

Re: SSL Communication

In message <20040729235810.GA12047 <at> localhost.zoom-int.cz>,
 `bigbrother <at> 1984.cz' wrote:
> Does anybody can send me a link to some tutorial (googling was 
> unsuccessfull) of very simple example?

sample/openssl/echo_cli.rb and echo_svr.rb are in the source
archive.

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Michael Neumann | 1 Aug 2004 09:56
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Re: [RCR] natcmp.rb added to string class

Patrick May wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Natural Order String Comparison is a useful algorithm:
> 
>     http://sourcefrog.net/projects/natsort/
> 
> Alan Davies wrote an implementation of the algorithm in ruby, and it is 
> useful:
> 
>     http://sourcefrog.net/projects/natsort/natcmp.rb
> 
> I think it would be nice if String always had this method.  I hope there 
> aren't license conflicts.

Hm, I think it's good to have this as an external library. This could 
then extend both String and Array classes. E.g.

   require 'natsort'

   ["a10", "a2"].sort {|a,b| a.natcmp(b) }
   # or
   ["a10", "a2"].natsort

Regards,

   Michael
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Rando Christensen | 1 Aug 2004 10:44

Re: Free(real Free) GUI toolkits

David Ross wrote:

> Hmm.. does anyone have a MacOSX computer they can try
> out WideStudio on? I am curious to see if it is
> portable to the mac.
> 
> WideStudio has plenty of widgets btw. I just didn't
> play enough with the wsbuilder.
> 
> I guess things like MDI forms are not important :)
> 

Seems like it works pretty well. As a warning, it runs under apple's 
X11. You might have to have people download it, as most people don't 
install it by default. It's something like a 60meg download from apple's 
site.

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