Magnus Holm | 27 Oct 23:09 2008

Okey. Today I cherry-picked some commits from zimbatm, Bluebie and my experimental-branch so we can get a bit closer to 2.0:


- Making Camping::ARSession work with AR 2.1 - d1db4f3c50815c93e370b696fb5b6c814bd1a7c4
- Removing Tempfile from require (zimbatm) - 26cd51545fcca05c67e952f09076a360cb7f554b
- Improving Markaby-speed (zimbatm) - 30b066e233b4777c63c29dde4d32420239abc9a4
- Refactoring of Camping::Session (Bluebie) - 0373aa306979d9c962d74f5ddc4fbf8c5b68eb30 and bb5e3bf6f0211ac688d03b5b1afb50439e2baa81
- Cleaning up reloader.rb - 214fbe6613608f17b92aac0754a45bd4c2aed2b1
- Don't make sessions depend on USER_AGENT - 205983ad09d255233590a1c9c6c9e7997d384a61

I think all of these are pretty important, but I'm sure there are many other commits on other repos which should be included too! Shout out if there's something you really need for 2.0 :-)

Documentation is probably what's missing for a release. Both cleaning up some part in the current docs and write some sort of how-to-switch-to-2.0. And the wiki needs some work too!

And _why: we're actually waiting for you. I know you've given this project to the community, but you can't just disappear like that :-(
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_why | 30 Oct 16:01 2008

Let's get this done, please :-)

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:09:10PM +0100, Magnus Holm wrote:
> Documentation is probably what's missing for a release. Both cleaning up
> some part in the current docs and write some sort of how-to-switch-to-2.0.
> And the wiki needs some work too!

Yes, we need to clear up the rdoc and write howtos for camping with
fastcgi, passenger, and other web servers.  I don't know, what do
most people deploy camping on?

_why
David Gurba | 30 Oct 16:08 2008

Let's get this done, please :-)

Mongrel ... but then again I think thats so 2005 :/
haha

long live camping!

On Oct 30, 2008, at 8:01 AM, _why wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:09:10PM +0100, Magnus Holm wrote:
>> Documentation is probably what's missing for a release. Both  
>> cleaning up
>> some part in the current docs and write some sort of how-to-switch- 
>> to-2.0.
>> And the wiki needs some work too!
>
> Yes, we need to clear up the rdoc and write howtos for camping with
> fastcgi, passenger, and other web servers.  I don't know, what do
> most people deploy camping on?
>
> _why
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Eric Mill | 30 Oct 16:23 2008

Let's get this done, please :-)

I've deployed a couple Camping apps in a FastCGI environment on shared
hosting, and written wiki pages on it.  I feel like this must be a
pretty common scenario, since shared hosting itself is a common
scenario.

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On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:01 AM, _why <why@...> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:09:10PM +0100, Magnus Holm wrote:
>> Documentation is probably what's missing for a release. Both cleaning up
>> some part in the current docs and write some sort of how-to-switch-to-2.0.
>> And the wiki needs some work too!
>
> Yes, we need to clear up the rdoc and write howtos for camping with
> fastcgi, passenger, and other web servers.  I don't know, what do
> most people deploy camping on?
>
> _why
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Fred Phillips | 30 Oct 16:20 2008

Let's get this done, please :-)

On Thu Oct 30 15:01:50 2008, _why wrote:
> I don't know, what do most people deploy camping on?

I run it with FastCGI on Apache. Some benchmarks between the different
servers would be nice.

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Julik Tarkhanov | 30 Oct 16:58 2008

Let's get this done, please :-)


On Oct 30, 2008, at 4:01 PM, _why wrote:

I don't know, what do

most people deploy camping on?

Oh yeah to imagine the scale: I have like 6 apps on FCGI now.
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Aria Stewart | 30 Oct 21:27 2008

On Oct 30, 2008, at 9:01 AM, _why wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:09:10PM +0100, Magnus Holm wrote:
>> Documentation is probably what's missing for a release. Both  
>> cleaning up
>> some part in the current docs and write some sort of how-to-switch- 
>> to-2.0.
>> And the wiki needs some work too!
>
> Yes, we need to clear up the rdoc and write howtos for camping with
> fastcgi, passenger, and other web servers.  I don't know, what do
> most people deploy camping on?

Proxied to Mongrel and using FastCGI, both.

I intend to use swiftiply at some point.

Aria Stewart
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Bluebie, Jenna | 30 Oct 21:58 2008

Let's get this done, please :-)

I'm running it on plain old CGI via Apache because my shared hosting environment does not allow for FastCGI. CGI works really well on a modern server... once ruby and all them are cache'd to ram. If my camping app is left disused for about 10 seconds, it gets pushed out of the cache and the next request takes about twice as long as one immediately after a previous request.

I'm on the MediaTemple Grid Service. I could have a slice on slicehost or something like that.. in fact friends would probably give me accounts on virtual dedicated servers at the drop of a hat if I'd asked, but I really dislike messing around with server internals.. I like having the whole thing maintained by someone else, and also, I'm worried about the idea of other users in a freebie vps account being able to mess with my content, and my users. :/

I am thinking along the lines of trying to make camping impersonate ruby on rails well enough to run it in the so called Rails Container, which appears to be an itsy bitsy 64mb slice specifically for running rails via mongrel, which then can be proxied to through apache. It's all such a black box to me that I wonder just how much work would be involved in such a thing.


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On Oct 30, 2008, at 4:01 PM, _why wrote:

I don't know, what do
most people deploy camping on?
Oh yeah to imagine the scale: I have like 6 apps on FCGI now.
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Josh Schairbaum | 31 Oct 00:05 2008

Let's get this done, please :-)

I normally use either Thin or Passenger.  It's a fairly simple setup for both.  I think most shared hosting is going the way of Passenger, Dreamhost, for example.  I would say that it might be the most common in the next few months.  Just one man's opinion, though.


Regards,
ch0wda

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Bluebie, Jenna <blueberry-DXT9u3ndKiQBwaaFpC1PZw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I'm running it on plain old CGI via Apache because my shared hosting environment does not allow for FastCGI. CGI works really well on a modern server... once ruby and all them are cache'd to ram. If my camping app is left disused for about 10 seconds, it gets pushed out of the cache and the next request takes about twice as long as one immediately after a previous request.

I'm on the MediaTemple Grid Service. I could have a slice on slicehost or something like that.. in fact friends would probably give me accounts on virtual dedicated servers at the drop of a hat if I'd asked, but I really dislike messing around with server internals.. I like having the whole thing maintained by someone else, and also, I'm worried about the idea of other users in a freebie vps account being able to mess with my content, and my users. :/

I am thinking along the lines of trying to make camping impersonate ruby on rails well enough to run it in the so called Rails Container, which appears to be an itsy bitsy 64mb slice specifically for running rails via mongrel, which then can be proxied to through apache. It's all such a black box to me that I wonder just how much work would be involved in such a thing.


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On Oct 30, 2008, at 4:01 PM, _why wrote:

I don't know, what do
most people deploy camping on?
Oh yeah to imagine the scale: I have like 6 apps on FCGI now.
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John Beppu | 31 Oct 05:04 2008

Let's get this done, please :-)

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:01 AM, _why <why-INVRFxB3SCbTr1N2uX3BwuTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org> wrote:


Yes, we need to clear up the rdoc and write howtos for camping with
fastcgi, passenger, and other web servers.  I don't know, what do
most people deploy camping on?

I reverse-proxy to mongrel.

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