Mehboob Alam | 1 Jun 01:20 2009
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Re: What does everyone use for Document Management in 4D?


> Do I have to reinvent the wheel?

Yes.

Try using a GUUID to create unique keys for each document, instead of cooking up your own coding schemes. Rob
Laveaux's free MD5 plugin comes in handy for storing a hash stamp for documents to verify that they have not
been tampered with outside the system.

 sincerely,
mehboob alam

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Subject: What does everyone use for Document Management in 4D?

This has to be a common thing people do. Is there any sample code I
can use or buy? Any suggestions?

Do I have to reinvent the wheel?

I want a simple file based document management system with the files
stored outside the datafile. We have a number of different tables that
would have "attached" documents.

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Owen Watson | 1 Jun 02:04 2009
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Re: What does everyone use for Document Management in 4D?

Look at DOCC:
http://www.nufocusinc.com/

Haven't looked at it so can't comment on its value.
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Jörg Knebel | 1 Jun 03:04 2009
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Re: Selling the conversion to v11


On 01/06/2009, at 08:48 :15GMT+10:00, Sujit Shah wrote:

> With the word "Microsoft" and "Certified" you will sell anything!

Is the world really that bloody stupid? =:–(

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Sujit Shah | 1 Jun 04:11 2009
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Contextual Menu in V11Structure Editor

Ok how do I get the list of tables from the structure editor? I was
able to right click and get this before. Now I get "Structure
Properties, Add Table, Select All.." So am I forced to use the
explorer to find the table I want?
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Sujit Shah | 1 Jun 04:22 2009
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Re: Selling the conversion to v11

Yep! There is saftey in numbers!
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Jörg Knebel | 1 Jun 07:05 2009
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Re: [v11.4] Execute on Server

David,

Thanks for the tip.

On 01/06/2009, at 01:19 :22GMT+10:00, David Ringsmuth wrote:

> Tony Ringsmuth tells me that "Execute on Server" in v11.4+ executed  
> from a
> component, actually executes in the primary database memory space,  
> and as a
> result values are not returned as expected.

Well, as long as you run all that "Execute on Server" stuff in  
standalone it works fine. ;-)

> He has a work-around by using a method with properties set to  
> "Execute on
> Server" that does what he needs.

In this case the method runs in the memory space of the connected  
client that's the way to go at the moment, but there are situations  
where you need to trigger a storage procedure on the server so 4D  
should fix this issue pronto. :o)

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Peter Schumacher | 1 Jun 09:28 2009

Re: Selling the conversion to v11

Sujit,

no-way here!

OK, it's more a culturel thing. "DEP" remembers in German for "Depp"  
which means "stupid, idiot" - on the phone you can't tell the  
difference. Writing in lists as an advice "turn the DEP off" ... you  
always have to explain what it is or you are just starting a flame  
war. :))

Am 01.06.2009 um 00:48 schrieb Sujit Shah:

> Rebrand your product to say something like "Microsoft DEP certified".

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Peter Schumacher | 1 Jun 09:31 2009

Re: Contextual Menu in V11Structure Editor

Sujit,

got this on a french list:

> I know it's in French, but you have a method + a zip files, which  
> help you o print the structure, here:

> http://forums.4d.fr/Post/FR/2634499/2/2638662#2638662

Am 01.06.2009 um 04:11 schrieb Sujit Shah:

> Ok how do I get the list of tables from the structure editor?

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Jörg Knebel | 1 Jun 10:12 2009
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Re: [v11.4] Execute on Server

Peter,

On 31/05/2009, at 22:54 :01GMT+10:00, Peter Schumacher wrote:

> * Does it work interpreted?
> * put some alert statements in it

The solution (for the moment) is to set the preference of the method  
in question to 'Execute on Server'.

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Balinder Walia | 1 Jun 11:28 2009
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Re: What does everyone use for Document Management in 4D?

We use 4D ( BLOBs for small docs ) to manage all the documents - > html,
xml, word, PDFs ( CVs ) for Jobshout. In fact just templates as documents
are produced on the fly whenever needed on demand. Browser based file
browser, Search ( Spotlight + 4D Query ), Editor, Manager are some of the
useful doc management features in our system.
Cheers

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> http://www.nufocusinc.com/
>
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